Self-established cost of public relations ": $ 30,000

in #hive4 years ago (edited)

Below is a translated post from @glory7 on STEEM. If it is true it does not surprise me as since the HIVE fork one main theme of mine is that HIVE is still being run by the same V.22.2 Cabal as STEEM always was and that the fork was to retain that power in the face of Mr. Sun's stake not in the name of any technological advances. Hell, not even witness vote retention was addressed in the fork.

Anyway did anyone else know about our dear @justineh asking for $30,000 for her volunteered (yes past tense) work?

English Translation:

I've been nervous about the "Hive" steam code copy chain these days, but I've got ridiculously funny news. When hard forks were introduced with free downvoting mana, SPS was introduced together. As a development fund support, if a user who needs funding uploads a proposal (proposal), this is a way to be paid when they receive support over a certain spa. Financial resources are 10% of daily inflation, which resulted from reduced author compensation and cure compensation. Most policies are good in theory, but in practice they are often abused, which was a similar case. The Old Testament continued to take out a few people like their safe deposit boxes. There are many stories to say about this, but I skipped it to move on to today's topic. The situation was the same when I moved to Hive. The members of the Hive "Core" were actually taking control. This time, a new offer from a user named justineh, one of the hive-led forces, has been posted. Hive Exchange Listings and Communication / PR Proposal In a nutshell, I tried to report on hive content on social media or the media, took charge of communication, and contributed to listing on various exchanges. I don't know much about this user, but this time I saw that it was the initial chair for the Steam Foundation, and then I realized that @ # $ # $. (I also omitted the detailed story-I remember the argument that travisung claimed was invalid when he was elected as the last KR molester). So this user, after hard explaining his "achievement" SPS requests 500 Hive Dollars per day for 60 days. The basis for the calculation is ... Your calculation? It's a four-month effort for yourself, including the past years and more to do. Self-selected and self-applied will be left to each person's judgment whether the 30,000 dollars makes sense. Even within the hive, controversy is still ongoing. Bernie, Netuso, etc. are enthusiastically supported, and some users are against it. A representative example is lordbutterfly, also known to KR users by posting aggressive comments here and there. We are beggining to be wasteful with the HIVE fund! STOP NOW In short, all of the "community", including yourself and a lot of "community members" on Twitter, etc., have tried, but it's ridiculous because you're claiming that it's all done thanks to you. It's a real popcorn angle. It's so fun. If you look at the comments on both posts and the voting pattern Who is the Hive "Core" user It's easy to see who the Hive "Community" users are. (Many of them are just now awakened by being instigated by core users, and now they seem to realize that they are suffering. Thanks to today, I smiled for a long time. I just want to stamp this seal. Oh, and a lot of information came out of the postings and comments above ... For example, it was said that justineh, gtg, netuoso, and blocktrades were mainly related to the exchange listing business. In the case of Bitrex, gtg was said to have actually penetrated alone. And David Zeferis, a former Steemit employee who was initially in charge of exchange-related work at Hive and was kicked out-I heard that some of the Hive Cores were kicked out because David couldn't let him charge for his job, This was confirmed today. The previous manager (David) asked to pay $ 100 a day, and then justineh said it was abusive, and now he comes and asks for $ 500 a day ... Now, when the excitement of the Hive users is subdued, you will find that the core users eat it all, or rather, it is a more severe structure than before. Chuckling I'd like to say that I'll take the money because it's great to do this ... I'd rather prove it to myself, so I'll continue to work as a manager in the future.

Original Korean:

스팀 코드카피체인인 "하이브" 에 대해서 요즘 신경 끄고 지냈는데, 황당할 만큼 웃긴 소식이 전해지더군요. 무료 다운보팅 마나가 도입된 하드포크 때, 같이 도입된 것으로 SPS라는 것이 있었습니다. 개발기금 지원으로, 자금 지원이 필요한 유저가 프로포절(제안서)를 올리면 이게 특정 스파 이상의 지지를 받으면 기금이 지급되는 방식이었죠. 재원은 저자보상과 큐레보상을 줄여서 나온 일일 인플레이션의 10%. 대부분의 정책이 이론적으론 좋은데 실제로는 악용되는 경우가 많은데, 이것도 비슷한 케이스였습니다. 구증인들이 자기들 사금고처럼 몇명이서 계속 빼내 썼죠. 이것도 할 이야기가 많지만, 일단 오늘의 화제로 넘어가기 위해서 생략. 하이브로 넘어가서도 상황은 같았습니다. 하이브 "코어" 멤버들이 사실상 장악하고 있었는데요. 이번에 하이브 주도 세력 중 하나인 justineh 라는 유저의 새로운 제안이 올라왔습니다. Hive Exchange Listings and Communication/PR Proposal 간단히 요약하면, 소셜 미디어나 언론에 하이브 관련 내용이 보도되도록 노력했고, 커뮤니케이션을 담당했으며, 각종 거래소 상장에 기여했다, 정도. 저는 이 유저에 대해서 아는 게 별로 없는데, 이번에 자기 소개에 스팀 파운데이션 초기 chair라는 걸 보고 아 그때 그 @#$#$구나, 라고 깨달았습니다. (역시 자세한 이야기는 생략 - travisung님이 막판 KR 몰표로 당선되었을때 무효라고 주장해서 제가 논쟁했던 기억이 있습니다). 그래서 이 유저는, 자신의 "업적" 을 열심히 설명한 뒤 SPS에서 하루 500 하이브 달러를 60일간 달라고 신청합니다. 산정 근거는... 자신의 계산? 지난 세월과 앞으로 좀더 할 걸 포함해서 4개월간의 자신의 수고비라는 것이죠. 셀프 선정하고 셀프 신청한 3만 달러가 말이 되는지는 각자의 판단에 맡기겠습니다. 하이브 내에서도 이에 대해서는 논란이 현재진행형입니다. 버니, 네투소 등이 열렬히 지지하고 있고, 몇몇 유저들은 반대하고 있고. 그 중 대표적인 예가 하도 이곳저곳 공격적 댓글을 달아대서 KR 유저들에게도 알려진 lordbutterfly입니다. We are beggining to be wasteful with the HIVE fund! STOP NOW 한마디로 자신을 비롯한 많은 "커뮤니티 멤버" 들이 트위터 등에서 엄청나게 노력하는 등 "커뮤니티" 전체가 노력했는데, 당신은 지금 자기 덕으로 이게 다 되었다고 주장하는 것이니 말이 안된다 이런 내용인데요. 진짜 팝콘각입니다. 너무 재미있어요. 두 글에 달린 댓글들과 보팅 패턴을 보면 누가 하이브 "코어" 유저이고 누가 하이브 "커뮤니티" 유저들인지 잘 보입니다. (이중 상당수는 그냥 코어 유저들에게 선동당해서 헛심쓴걸 이제야 깨닫고 있는듯. 고생은 자기들이 하고 이득은 코어 유저들이 ...) 오늘 덕분에 오랜만에 제대로 웃었네요. 딱 이 도장을 찍어주고 싶습니다. 아, 그리고 위 포스팅들과 댓글들에서 많은 정보들이 나왔는데요... 예를 들어서 거래소 상장 관련 업무들은 justineh, gtg, netuoso, blocktrades가 주로 했다고 하고, 비트렉스의 경우는 gtg가 사실상 혼자 뚫었다고 합니다. 그리고 예전 스팀잇 직원이었고 하이브에서 거래소 관련 업무를 초기에 맡고 있다가 쫓겨난 데이빗 제퍼리스(birdinc) - 그 이유가 하이브 코어 몇명이 데이빗이 자기 일에 대해서 비용을 청구하자 못주겠다면서 쫓아냈다고 들었는데요, 오늘 이것도 확인이 되었습니다. 이전 담당자(데이빗)가 하루 100달러의 비용 지급을 요청했는데 그때 justineh가 과욕이라고 해놓고 이제 와서 자신은 하루 500달러를 요청한다... 라는 내용이죠. 이제 슬슬 하이브 유저들도 흥분이 가라앉고 나면 코어 유저들이 다 해먹는, 아니 이전보다 오히려 심해진 구조라는 걸 알게 되겠지요. 껄껄. 이렇게 대놓고 자신이 한 일이 대단하니 돈 가져갈게 라고 할줄은... 차라리 내가 이렇게 내 능력을 증명했으니 앞으로도 이거 담당으로 일할건데 이제는 매일 얼마씩 줘, 라고 했으면 그나마 말이라도 되었을 겁니다.

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Jfc.. people really are unintelligent and can’t read these day’s.

I wish I lived in Glory’s head .. must be magical.

Oh btw, if you hate Hive so much and love Steem... why are you posting here? 🤔

Oh btw, if you hate Hive so much and love Steem... why are you posting here?

Both of them seem fucked to me. Just posting my way through power down my dear.

Fair enough.

Glory’s take is not true btw. Feel free to read my own post and comments about how it occurred and what was accomplished. I’m a lot of things.. but I’ve never had an issue with being honest here.

Feel free to read my own post and comments about how it occurred and what was accomplished.

Actually my hope is you get rewarded, as you have put a lot of energy into the project(s). If you do get the reward, however, it will support my theory of the circle jerking V.22.2 Cabal. One of my main themes has been to just try to get into the top 20 or excepted in an SPS request without the support of the V.22.2 Cabal.

Besides, joining the discussion may be a bit limiting as the racist asshole, @lordbutterfly, has been blocked by me and he is leading the charge against the request from my understandings. Most of the drama would be lost to me.

Good luck with your payday! Serious.

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