Entitlement is pretty common around here. That's why we have seen so many self votes, 'because my posts are worth it!'. Selfish behaviour tends to get noticed and others will react to it and you can end up making less. With Hive being so small we have to act in ways that could help it grow if we want to see our stake gain value in the long run.
I've never taken my rewards for granted, but I'm grateful that people support me. I try to spread the benefits.
I'd say it's a value issue. I would never up-vote myself (did it once by accident, when I started following a curation trail that then upvoted one of my posts 😅), as I find it to be selfish. I rather put my votes towards others, and trust that it will come back eventually.
The whole value thing is important in the overlaying question. Why engage? Why create content? Way too many people do it with the money as their main reason, and sometimes their only reason. On all platforms, but here especially as the reward is direct.
Also, I guess the entitlement comes from Hive being "free". It doesn't cost me anything to up-vote you, on the contrary, it benefits me, too, so I have to do it, because, why not?
Hive is different and we are figuring out how it can work. Some say you could change the system to not allow self-votes, but people would find ways around it. All the data is public, so it's best to be honest.
I did self-vote back when my own vote was tiny and my posts made nothing, but I've not done it in years except by accident and then I undo it. I can earn okay anyway and making a possible little extra is not worth the cost in other aspects.
I used to use curation trails. Then I'd feel guilty when I would get curated and I'd (unintentionally) vote on my own post.
That was years ago. Ah fun times. I am a manual everything person now!
I only follow a couple of small trails as I want more control over where my vote goes. Most of it is manual.
I just wish my car was still manual, like my hive account ;)
Ew, I've only ever driven stick
I love my new car, but it has been... 6 months? And I still reach for a clutch pedal with my left foot when I'm slowing for a corner.
Welcome to the manual side!
Like you, I have been manual a long time. For not as long, but longer than most people round these parts :P
I like that anarchic aspect of Hive. That there are just unwritten rules, and either you respect them, or you don't. Nothing is forbidden, but everything has consequences. I think it shows more of a "true face" of people than the canceling and prohibiting, so I for myself have a better time as it's easier to see who is who, and who I want to connect with, and who I don't.
About the up-vote - how can I undo it? Just slide it back to 0%? In case it ever happens :-D
Amen!
That should work as long as it hasn't paid out. You don't get the voting power back though.
Good to know, thank you!
Most of the unwritten rules are usually quite common knowledge stuff you shouldn't be doing anywhere, but people who abuse like to be all "you pulled this rule out of your ass just to downvote me" or the overused term "i thought hive was decentralized" as if that means you can do whatever you want.
I've been self-voting a bit lately, mainly to counter some malicious downvotes by a flagrant vote buyer who decided to autodownvote all my posts as he went afk cause I downvoted some of his posts. If however I'd abuse that I'd very much hope the community would stand up and hold me to my actions.
That makes sense to up-vote yourself then. Another solution would be to ask some other big investor to have a equivalent auto-vote on you. Given everything you do for the hive, I'm pretty sure some would be more than willing.
Yeah but I'm kind of purposely selfvoting a day or two late so I lose some curation rewards in the process due to the late day voting penalty so that the other voters get some extra that the downvoter may attempt to take from. It's a bit of an advanced thought process behind it, lol.
Certainly, I did not understand that 😅 But that's probably because there are many things that I don't know about the mechanics yet... I didn't know that there was a penalty when voting late. Going to meet up with meno in a little while, going to talk about how I can onboard my whole city using the bakery as a front 😅 I'll ask him about a few mechanical things, too, so hopefully I'll be more knowledged in 2h