RE: Remember when @Blocktrades explained how a fork is not theft and you ate that shit up like it was candy?

[greer184]

Do you think Steem HF23 is theft?

No, but Steem 23 is a inefficient, insecure database. The real question is when Hive wants to stop being one as well.

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[edicted]

sick burn.

[greer184]

The coins are still there on the database. Just fork Steem from right before the 23.0 fork and everybody can get their coins back. That new fork would be the legitimate chain, but I don't see anyone putting any work in that direction because it is easier to complain.

But continue with the circular statements. You have proved and accomplished nothing.

[greer184]

Except that it would require the chain to do the unthinkable and forget about witnesses, forget about the rule set that defines the state, and to simply be recompiled by a rogue element that having neither the stake to legitimize their fork before the rest of the network nor the capacity to actually run the fork, but regardless, they will be the legitimate chain, because.

What do you think about the Hive blockchain, which is itself a fork of Steem and which utilizes the exact same mechanics (and essentially code) as HF23?

[greer184]

You wouldn't rollback HF23, you would restart the chain running Steem 22.X and use that as a starting point. The blockchain isn't being roll-backed, it would be resumed at the point where the alternative chain HF23 is split off. That's how forks work in Proof-of-Stake blockchains. If you consider Steem 23 as the official chain based off of consensus than you are admitting that Proof-of-Stake chains are terribly weak at securing people's money. If we have to "obey" consensus like folks like yourself seem so interested in doing, then sure, the Steem "community" agreed to "steal" from the particular subset of forks that had their tokens moved from their accounts.