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There are polls out that claim most Americans under 30 believe the USA shouldn't be supporting Israel. And that's a very vague, and non-specific way to ask that question.
8 years ago if you talked about this on Youtube, Twitter, etc. you'd be immediately met with claims of antisemitism, and labeled a conspiracy-tard.
But over the past 2 years I think is where I saw things really start change online, and that an also be deceiving because we end up in these echo chambers, but I am seeing this talked about by regular people in mainstream venues now.

There's a theory that Charlie's clip-on microphone detonated or fired a projectile into his neck, and why is that?
Oh because a couple months ago Israel proudly showed the world how they detonated pagers and cell-phones on people they claimed were terrorists.
Then Netanyahu gave Trump a golden pager or cell-phone to "commemorate Israel inventing the cell phone"; which they absolutely did not invent. I don't even know why they would make a claim that's demonstrably false.

If you listen to former CIA agents talk about dealing with Mossad and intel from there they talk about how little they trust them, and how they always leave spy devices behind when they visit the embassies or other buildings. They harass our intel officers and ambassadors in their country as well.
It doesn't sound like an ally at all.
But then the USA has done other things to our allies that aren't quite as bad, but it's the same principle I guess.

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we end up in these echo chambers

This is not wholly organic, although the tendency is. I've seen demonstrations of Goolag altering comment sections of Tubeyou videos such that a couple with differing views each sees a different comment section. Each sees comments aligned with their views and excludes comments presenting differing views. The effect of this granular censorship is to prevent political discussion and the moderation of views on either side that enables agreement. It furthers the division we suffer, and it demonstrates very clearly that division is being constructed. The effect is to prevent a rational synthesis from emerging to effectively oppose Zionism in subject polities.

USA has done other things to our allies

Kissinger once stated that to be America's enemy was very dangerous, but to be America's friend was fatal. Anyone that has paid attention to the alternating promises and betrayals of the Kurds since Gulf War I under Bush I has seen this happen serially. Where MIGA isn't understood to be the underlying policy of the countries of the West by such allies is when the worst such betrayals are possible. There is also confusion caused by parallel cultures to Rabbinic Judaism/Talmudism, such as the Parsee, Jesuits, and MAGA, not competitors like the Thugee, Roma, or Hashashim, but cryptojews in effect, which I think creates the very pro-Israel current in India, the USA and the EU, and the Ukraine and Russia today.

The Ukraine is a vivid example of these machinations destroying a country(s) and it's people(s) where parallel policies are implemented in all the polities involved creating a covert synthesis that is completely obscured to the different demographics the overt policies are tailored to. However because the political administrations of all the polities involved in the war are all subjugated to Zionists through covert blackmail, none of the policies of the polities have the effect claimed to be intended, but rather work together to achieve the true goals of Zionists, which is to depopulate the Ukraine and acquire the clay with all the economic assets flowing to Jews.

After all, the Ukraine is the real homeland of the Ashkenazim.

Yes I agree, there is no "good side" of the war in Ukraine.
Right wingers in the USA tend to root for Russia, and the left for Ukraine.
The right only roots for them because they believe the idea that Putin is some anti-globalist warrior for Christianity. It's false, and easily seen through if you simply look into his ties to the same sect of Judaism that Trump is tied to.
They always operate this way.
The voice in the ear of the king.

While I understand where you are coming from pointing to their "divide and conquer" tactics in most nations; I don't agree that it's quite that simple.
Yes, the left & right in the USA share criticism of our Zionism problem, but there is little that we can agree about when it comes to home.
Both sides of our political system are shadow-puppets, and they do enact little wins for their constituents here and there. Both sides lose overall.
But the right in particular, has remained largely consistent on it's political plans(the people, not the politicians).
Whereas Biden and the Clintons are to the right of Trump if you simply go back in history.
The right has identified the true threat to all nations: demographic atomization and replacement.
This is why the left has always called them racist, and demonized nationalism while associating it with Fascism/National Socialism(ironic since, socialist).
National Socialism agrees with a lot of the left's economic prescriptions, but only on the basis of a nation. With nation being based in ethnos as per it's original definitions.
The left invites foreign people into the nations, and then empowers them through their own ethnic grievances against the native nationalists or even populist nationalists.
The reason they do this is because when you have a 90% white nation you do have to divide them politically to hamstring them.
But once that number is 60% divided into 30% halves, and then there's 16% Latino base, and 13% black base; the divisions will start to occur naturally.
They speak different languages, and no longer share a culture.
The internet itself has largely destroyed cultures seemingly around the world.

There's also the fact that revolutions in nations are often affected by a minority. That doesn't have to mean an ethnic minority, but even ideological.
It could be focused around language even.
This is why the left and right cannot really work together against Zionism.
Both sides are pro in the govt, and the people want outcomes that are mutually exclusive to one another domestically.
Only in the past 5 years have white people started to express an identity as such though. Because for most of the time they have been fighting against the claims they are racist for looking out for their own interests in their own nations.

I generally agree with your statements above, except a couple things. The people of almost all countries, regardless of ethnic backgrounds, political party, or religion, are almost unanimously against brownstone operations pimping children to child molesters that are subsequently elevated to high office because they can be very closely controlled by blackmail. Many psyops and an almost constant stream of distractions are being executed in order to prevent rapprochement of divided populations on this issue.

Also, there has always been a susurration of nationalism, White and otherwise. I agree it has lately increased in efficacy and volume in the West because of the increasing recognition that the West is being deliberately destroyed by invasive immigration and other means, by traitorous politicians (presumably those being blackmailed).

Well yes, becoming ethnically-centered is more recent because the conditions of the nations are observably in fast decline. The whispering phase was happening in the 1990's really, and you had the militia movements in the USA who were basically predicting what we have now.
The OKC bombing, Waco, and Ruby Ridge broke the momentum of that small movement, and made it so most people wouldn't even speak-out against the feds shooting a man's family, burning a compound full of cultists, or burning Masters alive on Whidby Island.
OKC is like the original 9/11, and reeks of false flag.
McVeigh maintained even in prison that he did what he did in service of his nation for the US military intelligence, and swore he would leave prison alive.
There was a reporter who claimed she could see him still breathing when they took him out of the lethal injection chamber.
But today, there's a total reversal. It's going more and more mainstream. Charlie Kirk himself, Trump, and many "right-wing" speakers/pundits are actually pulled more extreme by their audiences rather than pushing the audience further.

And yes, most people are against the abuse of children and blackmailing of politicians.
Trump's heel-turn on Epstein drew heavy ire from his supporters because it was blatant and dismissive.
And there's still an attempt to blame it all on antisemitism, and associate it with the left.
But even that doesn't really matter because at the end of the day a lot of people still believe that Trump is a net-positive for the USA because the left are against simply enforcing the law and removing illegal immigrants. They wave foreign flags and attack the agents doing the job.
But the message is reaching the top that most Americans are against what Israel is doing.
Right now Trump is claiming we're going to oversee Israel exiting Gaza, but I can't see that actually happening. Israel likely knows this is their last hurrah controlling the USA unopposed, and I think they are going for broke. BB, like Zelensky, can't have the war end because they'll have to face criminal prosecution. So there's nothing I would put past them.

The real problem is we don't have a way to undo this in an official way. The left's officials are just as beholden, and they just oppose each other in theatrical ways. But the US govt has serious problems that they have no solution for. Both the UK and France(and Germany & Canada to some extent) are facing major dissent from the populace. All of the economies are faltering as well, and if UK or France default on their debt that means trillions in treasury bond holdings disappear from the already insolvent US budget.
Nothing causes riots and revolt like failing economies, and it's hard to guess how it plays out on this scale.
The USA also seems to be interested in toppling Venezuela for reasons I don't know.

The democrats are now pretending to want the release of the Epstein files while the republicans and Trump block that. That is all theater, and if they really wanted to use it against republicans they had the last 4 years to do it. It's all a charade.
But the left and right fundamentally see each other as a threat to their idea of a nation in much of the West, that's real.

"...a lot of people still believe that Trump is a net-positive for the USA..."

There are people you can do business with on a handshake, and people you can't do business with. President Trump has repeatedly recited the poem 'The Snake' at public appearances, and demonstrates thereby his intentions.

"...the US govt has serious problems that they have no solution for. Both the UK and France(and Germany & Canada to some extent) are facing major dissent from the populace. All of the economies are faltering as well, and if UK or France default on their debt that means trillions in treasury bond holdings disappear from the already insolvent US budget...The USA also seems to be interested in toppling Venezuela..."

From the UN, to the Club of Rome, to the Talmud, there are plentiful sources that document what appears to be a plan to conquer the world and subjugate humanity to a global technocratic totalitarian tyranny. In the last three months seventeen countries have implemented digital ID, which will serve a global technocracy when extant governments collapse. Donald Rumsfeld infamously said 'If you have a problem you can't solve, make it bigger.'

The extant governments of the world cannot be replaced by a global technocracy unless they fail. The violence and disruption of services and supplies the failure of governments creates will cause people to gladly accept food and security from any source, and we see that principle in operation in the USA today as military forces occupy the streets of American cities, where local governments have failed to do so. Antifa is covertly funded and directed to cause the problem the federal military forces are solving, and this imposition of tyranny is the purpose of the global conquest.

Yuval Hariri has said that 'useless eaters' might be provided drugs and video games to keep them occupied while AI and automation produce goods and services. However, that is a very expensive proposition, and it is obvious the tyrants conquering the world are willing to simply slaughter people to get rid of them, and clearly have been doing that through the jabs, in Gaza, the Ukraine, and since 2020 the West has joined the ranks of peoples and cultures that have suffered every genocidal crime against humanity their conquerors employed to render them to control.

The charade of politics embroils the victims in conflict with one another that keeps them from all demanding the release of the Epstein files and together dismantling the covert corruption controlling politicians through blackmail, bribery, and brutal violence. There are actions that people can take now to prepare for the coming collapse of governments into a polycrisis of war, plague, iatrocide, and famine, that providence has fortuitously made available just at this time. I have advocated seizing the decentralized means of production that enable individuals to produce electricity, store it, use it to grow food, produce modern goods that includes the most advanced security tech today dominating modern battlefields, since I have been on this platform.

Using aquaponics a home can provide all the superlative nutrition residents need. Inkjet printers can print electronics that FOSS AI can operate to produce electrical power, manage it's storage in concrete supercapacitors, and further automate production of drones, communications, and modern goods with 3D printers. Each of us that sees the coming apocalypse is responsible for securing ourselves from dependence on centralized supplies that has been used as a weapon of war and genocide since time immemorial. Communities that have people to help them implement the decentralized solutions today available will have opportunities to surmount imposition of war, plague, famine, and more to render them to control of Machiavellian psychopathic narcissists that intend to drug them up and lock them in a cell at best, but prefer to annihilate them.

Whom survives what is coming will merit their survival by themselves providing the goods and services that create the blessings of civilization. Failing to do so will render people to possession by their implacable, merciless enemies, with predictable consequences.

Quote Inkjet printers can print electronics that FOSS AI can operate to produce electrical power
What do you mean by this? Inkjets are standard paper printers. Why does AI need printed paper?
And what kind of electrical power are you talking about? Like solar and wind?

3D printing is something I have little experience with, but I know size of the printers determines how much you can do with them.
As far as I know, producing photovoltaic cells is still a "globalism"-dependent thing. Harvesting wind is simper, but the returns and scale are kind of tricky.
There is this black kid from the Pacific Northwest who claims to be able to turn plastic-waste into a fuel, but that could all be horseshit who knows.
I know people personally who built bio-diesel busses, and used oil waste from fast-food. But I think there's regulation involved in that shit now.

The concrete super-capacitors is an interesting idea.
Need sources of limestone and clay for cement, carbon-black is a waste-product of fossil fuels so I'm sure there's lots of it being made currently.
Building our infrastructure out of battery is a great idea especially if it's economically viable.
But also:

Risks and downsides of concrete supercapacitors include a trade-off between energy storage and structural strength, low energy density compared to batteries, limited voltage capacity, and a high self-discharge rate. Other challenges involve high resistance, potential for short-circuiting, and unknown long-term performance when used as a structural element.

On Oct 1 they announced they had gotten a 10x performance increase so still promising.
My father's neighbor built and ran a aquaponics greenhouse with fish, and sold the produce for a while. And it's definitely a good way to grow.
Chickens are an incredible thing on their own because they just convert the bottom of the food-chain into readily-available protein, fats, cholesterol with little effort.
It sucks living in an actual neighborhood because I have neighbors behind me who were forced to get rid of their couple of chickens a few years back.

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