Really? Well when whites have been killed during many of these demonstrations BLM didn't say one word about them...
Example, during the Furgeson, MO riots a white man was shot by Omaha, NE Police in the back while jumping a fence after stealing from a Family Dollar and no one stood up for him...
I could go on and on with examples.
Look at the context though. You're saying that within a conflict that involved mostly black people an incident involving a white person wasn't amplified. But lots of additional blacks have been killed during the protesting, and you haven't heard about them either. That's just a function of signal to noise ratio.
I think a much more telling situation is when a crime gets committed, how do the police respond? Do they really respond as if all lives have equal value to them?
If they do, how do you explain death sentence carried out immediately for selling loose cigarettes or running from the police, but a man who shoots 6 people dead in a church being not only taken alive, but driven to a Burger King for a meal before being taken to the station for arrest?
How can you possibly explain those differences without concluding that at least to those cops, black lives definitely do not matter as much as all other lives.
Hmm, I'm not sure your examples are relevent... Because 'a' white murderer was taken alive black lives matter less to those officer's? You are jumping in way deeper than the evidence available.
If one wants equality, they themselves need to stand on the issue as if we are all equal or they are simply being the same as those they oppose.
Stand up for all lives, rather than just one skin color or all others, but one(white) and maybe it will be taken seriously by the majority.
Right now I see a group that divides by skin color calling out those of all skin colors for killing those with dark skin(even dark skinned officers), because they are brothers with those like them, but not whites.
Complete and utter hypocrisy... And anyone who thinks critically, instead of being drawn in by emotion sees right through it.
BLM in itself is racist!
I will never side with such a group, because I'll be their victim next.
By the way, the incident I mention was a white man getting the death penalty on the spot for stealing something worth the same as cigarettes.
More whites are incarcerated and killed by police...period.
This is NOT a race issue.
I think you're interpreting the argument in reverse. It's not to say that the white murderer should have been killed. It's to say the black men who had committed far lesser crimes (if any crime at all) should certainly have been taken alive. (No trip to Burger King required.) That they are killed so automatically for such minor offenses indicates that it is a lie to say that all lives matter. Clearly black lives did not matter to the cops who killed them for so little reason. Meanwhile, the life of the white murderer clearly did matter to them, which is why they took the risk of apprehending an armed man instead of just shooting him on sight.
Make is make sense. Make the cops treat the black men the same as they treat the white men.
Again, your example of the white looter during the riots doesn't measure up the same because one is during a riot. That one white man's death wasn't amplified in their context, and neither were all the black deaths in that same setting that you clearly haven't even heard of at all. Even right now during these riots, lots of people of all races are being hurt/killed/blinded and you aren't hearing about them.
But BLM is specifically focused on amplifying that for too many people black lives matter less than all other lives, and that's resulting in us dying when anyone else would have been allowed to live. That's the point, so no, they aren't going to go out of their way to make other points too.
The point is the issue IS about equality/inequality, but not between the races. You are jumping to a false conclusion for most of these incidents.
It's about power and the inequality between those in power and those under their power.
Any movement that makes this anything else is just being used as a pawn and is guilty of the same injustices they claim to stand against.
If you are viewing this through a colored lens, you too are part of the problem.
I would argue that refusing to see race when clearly others are using race in their decision making is where the race filter is being applied.
Then we'll never get past this difference.
The minority hate for these reasons, but the majority is using them to keep old wounds open. This majority is what's keeping us from moving forward.
Biases will always exist on all sides and won't go away, but magnifying those biases beyond what they are keeps the monster going and furthers the divide.
If you don't want color to be a factor, quit making it a factor. I'm saying that those against racism, yet invoke it unnecessarily are the ones giving it more power than it has or deserves.
It won't be defeated and is necessary for freedom. You need both extremes to have everything in between. And... No matter how hard you try, we will have both and everything between.
The discrepancy by race in America when it comes to especially criminal justice, but all sorts of walks of life is not an opinion or some anecdotal fuzzy idea. It's statistical fact you can easily look up.
76.5% of the country is white.
13.4% of the country is black.
First line from the study linked above...
Is this also a power issue between the have's and the have-nots? Sure, it can be that and ALSO overlap with race, which it clearly objectively does.
The argument you're making is that if someone shoots my brother and I go march in the street for justice for him, I'm a hypocrite if I don't also march for your brother who also got shot? If I don't march for him, I'm saying his life doesn't matter? If I made a group to march about all police violence in the US am I a hypocrite for not also making a group to defend police violence against Palestinians? Am I anti-Palestinian for addressing the problems of Americans. You can go on like this forever.
If today is my birthday and I walk into a room and say "Happy Birthday to Me!" Would you jump up and say "ALL BIRTHDAYS SHOULD BE HAPPY!" Would you assume that by me saying Happy Birthday to me, that I'm saying you should have a sad birthday?
The all lives matter talking point is a trick. It's a trick to making the act of addressing the problems of black people into a debate. Into somehow a bad thing. Don't fall for it.
Funny, ppl make themselves a 'them' or 'you ppl' then call it racist when you refer to them as 'them'...
You can't have it both ways! We are all brothers and sisters or we are not.
Also, it's funny how ppl pick stats that fit their narrative. This is called 'confirmation bias'.
There are many arguments that make the percentage moot and the same for the reciprocal. It's your choice to see the big picture or not. All the stats and details behind them matter, not just the cherry picked ones.
I'll always include all the details in my opinions. My point was that I've lived the life that the poorest black has and have been treated exactly the same. No White Priviledge here.
As a matter of fact, that claim is a load of shit and I'm the proof of it and the larger amount of my kind that lived a similar life. Of course, I've seen the same amount of racism from all ethnicities.
Finger point all you want, we 90%'ish are all in the same boat when it comes to the law. Talking the walk will never replace walking the walk. If you point a finger, you need to make sure the reason behind it doesn't also include yourself...
Nothing about the facts that I stated denies the reality of your life and experiences.
In the year 2020, there are black people born rich and just as privileged as anyone. Nothing I said denies this reality either.
I'm talking about systemic, as in, things affecting millions of people, with a wide spectrum of variance, issues. This is why statistics are useful. I'm not one to present a single state and claim that because of it, I'm right and you're wrong.
The point I was making was that it was easy to find these facts, which I did in a few seconds while writing that comment. If I wanted to spend several hours objectively researching(which I have btw) the outcome wouldn't be different because it's the truth.
I can understand where you're coming from because of your personal experiences, but you're denying the reality of other peoples experiences by claiming that they're not real and aren't happening.
Imagine if I said, "No you're white, which means you're privileged and had everything in life handed to you on a silver platter, THE END."
That would RIGHTFULLY be an incredibly ignorant thing to say seeing as how I don't know you, don't know what you've been through, and obviously can't speak about your experiences. That goes both ways.
The fact that we're all brothers and sisters obviously doesn't automatically mean we're all treated the same. If your brother tells you he's being mistreated, what would your response be?
You wouldn't say any of these things because they don't make any sense. But this is the sort of mental gymnastics done by people.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/us/dallas-police-body-cam-footage-captures-death/index.html
Funny, we Caucasians are being told #1 all the time and that only we are racist. What does the claim of having white priviledge say, #2 or 3? I can go on and on. Talk about mental gymnastics!!! I'm sick of the hypocrisy!
BLM is a racist organization and I will treat it as such...
Anecdotal examples aren't really useful. I bet that if I took the time to look I could find counter-examples. One that I remember off-hand... Police responded to a store because of reports of a suspicious person. Police arrive and see a person who matched the description. The person's back was to the officer and the officer shouted for him to turn around and put his hands up or something to that effect. The person didn't hear because he had headphones on. He finally turned around either because he finally heard them or noticed the flashing lights. His hands were in his pockets. The police shot him. He was white. So where is the difference there?
I bet you can also find plenty of examples where a black individual who committed a crime was treated nicely too. You can't just pick a couple examples that fit the narrative you believe and present them as the way it always is. Also, unless the comparisons you are making are by the same police officers it is especially meaningless. Maybe the particular officers who took the white guy who shot 6 people to get food often do that sort of thing with suspects they catch regardless of their race?
While the extremes get publicized ad nauseum by the media, 99% (give or take) of all interactions with police go smoothly and without violence regardless of race. That doesn't mean we don't need to address the other 1% but it does mean perspective is needed.