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RE: Morality - Subjective or Objective?

in #philosophy5 years ago

I'm not convinced you don't want to look like you've already found the truth.

You will have noticed how difficult your endeavor becomes as soon as you try to determine the time and manner of another person when he should do the same?

How exhausting is it to try to get someone to reach your level? How often does it lead to your heart becoming a murder pit, much more than you would like?

As long as you act as a teacher, you will not be one of those from whom one takes his teachings, because you know and the others know that you are not enlightened.

How many times have you admitted to yourself that it was embarrassing afterwards when you tried to bring someone to reason? How many times did you realize that you were wrong with the assessment of someone else?

I find an embarrassing amount of events I did this to myself and others. It's better from my point of view no to be too certain.

In times when you doubt yourself the most, you may bring out the best in you.

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I don't know... I'm pretty sure violent coercion is wrong, and I don't think it's inappropriate to claim this knowledge as Truth. I am very rigid in what I speak of as Truth and what I acknowledge as opinion. Personal doubt and skepticism is what revealed these ideas to me, not arrogance. Logic, intuition and experience all lead me to certain conclusions, and these are the means by which man may attain his most certain knowledge. I'm not claiming absolute knowledge, but I am claiming the highest possible for human beings in this particular circumstance - no man has rightful authority over another.

My assessment of others is based upon their own words and behavior. If they condone violence against innocents, deem popularity and material wealth as their highest priorities, or are apathetic in their quest for greater knowledge, how is it inaccurate to say these actions do not serve mankind's greatest thriving?

Everything is not nebulous - we can know things, can't we?

We can know things, yes, but mostly we overestimate them and are too certain about judgements. "Certainty" is a dangerous thing if you ask me. For my taste, you stretch the truth term to an extend where it traps you.

It very well may be so. However, I would ask for some demonstration of how what I claim as Truth is not so. I claim that it is known with the maximum amount of certainty possible (absolute certainty is outside the scope of a wholly subjective being).

Coercion yields less-than-desirable outcomes for mankind, because it does not duly acknowledge his nature as a free-will, conscious being. Loving cooperation yields the best condition for mankind's thriving, because it honors who he is on the most fundamental level.

I claim this as Truth. I would happily review argumentation to the contrary, but so far I've not heard anything that can be better demonstrated than these ideas - that's why I hold them. Upon hearing something better, I will alter my view immediately, but this appears to describe reality with absolute accuracy.

... None of my questions were of rhetorical nature. As I said, it is not my right to demand answers, I wanted to be of service. But why must we circle around the same thing?

I am getting confused with this truth-talk and I don't want to continue.

Can't we have also another form of dialogue? Don't you know some anecdotes you can share with me? Maybe at some other time.