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RE: The Death of Conversation

in #philosophy7 years ago

I came to your blog because @denmarkguy said you do some good graphic footers. I don't use footers but I figured I'd take the advice of someone who's work I appreciate and look at your work.

The first thing I found was your "We Need to Talk" post.

I watched the video, I read the post, I read the comments.

I still don't know who is right or wrong in all of this but it is a STUPID FUCKING CONTEST and it has obviously become a huge distraction for a lot of people.

We must force ourselves to converse with others, especially those we are in disagreement with.

I would ask that you have a rational public discussion with whoever you think is ultimately responsible for wrongs committed.

Not a group, one person.

Right here, on Steemit.

Let the community observe how people work to settle their disagreements here without it turning into some mutually destructive flag war.

If your beef is with @timsaid then the two of you can hash it out while the rest of us get on with our lives.

Keep it objective and professional, if the two of you can't work it out, then the rest of us can at least make our own judgment as to who the asshole is.

I would recommend a post tile of "@son-of-satire & @(whoever) Discuss the Future or Demise of Steemit".

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I think the idea is a great one, and I would be most willing to do so. The thing is, this conversation you speak of already happened in full view of everyone on the competition post. Once that conversation was over, the comments aimed at me where edited to make what I was saying look out of context.

I do not think someone who believes their actions to be appropriate would have to go to such lengths, nor would they edit the post where they offered to buy votes to no longer contain that offer.

Nonetheless, if either @timsaid or @eltooni would like to air this out in public, respectfully, I would be fine with that.

I didn't see the competition post.

And I simply don't have enough data to come to any type of conclusion.

I just think it best to avoid the kind of proxy flag wars that I know have occurred in the past.

Maybe a disinterested 3rd party can start some kind of dialog?

I am involved in no flag war. I have been flagging spam and double votes on the competition. It was in retaliation to this that I received a great number of flags, but I have not responded in kind. I consider it a waste of my limited power to flag out of spite.

I thank you for your attempts to help find a resolution, but the competition is just now coming to a close I believe, so I don't see much of a chance of them wanting to talk about the ethics of their decisions once it has finished.

I read your post about flagging spammers and wasn't implying you were engaged in a flag war.

I just know how quickly things can deteriorate and how much the entire community suffers when something like that happens.

It may very well come to naught, but I think it's worth the effort.

So far, you've been the only one to respond, but I can hope.

Well I commend you for trying. If you do have any luck, you know where to find me. I will do what I can to dispel any friction this may have caused among the community, because that was not my intent. But, I couldn't watch this shit happen and remain silent.

I totally understand.

Not knowing you more than reading a few of your posts, I think you do have the community's best interest at heart. If I didn't think that, I wouldn't have said anything.