I can report similar things. A very good friend of my husband has taken the jab but I never thought of him being a mindless believer in this or that, he decided on his own and I can accept that right away. He makes no fuzz about his decision, does not want to convince anyone else and wouldn't even have spoken about it if not having been asked by me. I have no harsh feelings about him, nothing that provokes me, I feel he is a person I can respect despite what he is doing different from what I do and decide. Now, isn't this something everyone wishes to experience? Having different opinions and being able nevertheless to co-exist peacefully?
I feel, where it happens differently, people either want to lure me, convince me, talk me into doing what they do, I strongly feel repulsed. When those persons start to talk about explicit morals, it's hard to not fall into this foot trap and answering them in explicit moral terms. For all this morals which are ordered, written down, expressed in regulations and such, make it impossible to act upon an implicit ethic on my own. For it is declared criminal or punishable.
Morality or ethics happens situational and for only those who are involved at that time being. For example, imagine you were a manager of an olds people care home and one of those elderlies were about to die and his relatives and family members would have needed and wanted to give their last company. I, if I would have been the manager of this place, would have liked to given them access. I would have thought about the question how to make it possible that this could take place. I bet, this happened all over the world but rarely can be talked about or is hold secretly.
Managers who did not want to carry this responsibility gave it up very easily (or never really acted upon it). They could claim that they were following the rules and regulations, that they were acting in accordance with the officially issued moral maxims and were thus on the side of the law in no time at all. But in doing so, they circumvented the questioning of their own conscience, because where there is no weighing up between the prevailing law and the prevailing personal conscience, this implicit ethics cannot unfold.
Some welcome the freedom of choice in precisely such difficult situations, for others it is an unbearable burden.
Making things an official rule does in no way solve the problems of the individual. He has to have the freedom of choice, for which he then is responsible.
I have a feeling that things are going to go horribly wrong for them healthwise, but if we are right it certainly won't be satisfying!
I don't know. I have no certainty and the only thing I can do is to wait and see how it might go for those close to me who decided to take it. I am not responsible for their decision and if one will die after one year or two years or more, I still won't be able to know what exactly caused their death. For me, it's unknowable. For others, it's not, they make experiences of a very different nature. I don't deny their experiences and conclusions.
I think when we start arguing about deciding a question for someone else that is in principle undecidable, we end up fighting. I accept when a relative or friend decides to decide this undecidable question for themselves. I would then have to learn to deal with his or her possible death when and if the time comes. I will not find someone to blame for this, because if I did, I would deny the decision this person has made and pretend that he or she never made it.
You can know the cause of death. Don't act stupid. It is easy to know. Step into my office I can walk you through the steps.
As long has you haven't found a way, in which your mind can sneak into mine, where it sets itself and lets me think things and move my arms and legs through your commands, you cannot say that I know things. The only thing you can do, is to say that YOU know them. So you did. I am fine with what you think you know.
I was just looking at the study Israel did.
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So you are saying what you really mean then?
That is not how freedom works.