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RE: Tokenizing The Internet With Hive - HiveTips, HivePatron & MyAltWallet (Proposal #128)

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Thanks for taking the time to reply

Why shouldn't that be HIVE?
Why let any of our competitors grab that market?

I think this is the winning point of the whole thing. While I see a well-served niche, it's obviously not. And why not Hive?

I apologize I haven't watched before replying. I was going off of what was presented in this post only (minus the video). I an now listening to the videos you mentioned now. The interviewer is talking about how liking is pretty much meaningless. I think this is the main point of Hive, this very fact, and I just have a different perspective on moving forward from what Hive is doing.

More importantly, it introduces HIVE to people on other platforms. It also gives them a reason to utilize HIVE and hence the networking effect starts to take over. Humans have been humans since the first ones came to be. We are curious creatures!

This is one point I did not gain from the proposal, except for the advertising. How can this get more people on Hive if they have to be on Hive to receive the tips? Or is the idea that you tell people about it and they join then to get the rewards?

I have installed the browser extension to see if my concerns were valid or not. Perhaps some things are not working (as you are obviously in an early phase) but I was not able to tip a youtube creator. I tried to put another account (my girlfriends hive handle) in the recipient field, but it didn't seem to work. Or is it their youtube creatorID? That's my main misunderstanding about how this will work.

Listening to the videos, you say that the person on the platform will know they were tipped in Hive, so do you leave a comment via the youtube api? What goes in the recipient field? I wasn't able to leave a tip to a youtube video with the extension as-is (but I assume this is normal, as this hasn't been developed, or you wouldn't need money!!)

Anyway, looking forward to seeing where this goes. I do want to say I do support this project and will be voting on it.

Yes, I am VERY opinionated in this field, as I have been working on what I think will be the next evolution of what Hive is doing, provable democracy with Time Tokens, where "likes" are limited by time, so they are more meaningful, and each person's say is the exact same (not based on wealth [stake], like on Hive). See the web 4 link in my first post if interested.

So guys, I hope you can educate me on that point about how a person without a Hive account can receive a pending tip, or even better, I look forward to reading your documentation!

All Love,

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How can this get more people on Hive if they have to be on Hive to receive the tips?

i look on this like, people need to make a patreon account to get "tips" on patreon. so people need to make a hive account to get hive tips.
the part where you need to claim it in the comments is a bit clumsy at the moment, especially for people that get a lot of comments in their tweets or youtube comments. but even at this moment, it is an interesting option to get people outside of hive interested about the platform.

now question for @lightproject, is there an option for automatic claiming. you have an registered youtube account in hivetips i also have a registered youtube account in hivetips. I send you a tip on youtube, could there be an option where you would autoclaim it, based on that that you connected your youtube account through hivetips? because if there is, than i don't need to know your hive name but you can kinda get a direct tip without thinking about checking 1000 of comments.

I would like to jump in with something I put together to help/promote the potential this project offers:

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There is so much out there on the internet, we need to tap into as much of it as possible with our cryptocurrencies.

Market demand determines the market prices.

As for the benefits of fast and feeless transactions, idk who doesn't appreciate quality at an unbeatable price & that is exactly what we (Hive) have to offer people all over the internet.

We can make it happen, we can start tokenizing the internet. Hivetips is just the tip of the iceberg. Tippinng/donating etc. is a multi billion dollar part of the $ transactions out on the net! Hive has so much to offer to the people out there.

For now, there is an easy tracking system for all "Unclaimed Tips" in the "My Tips" (keypad icon)

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Where all your unclaimed tips are listed clearly in order, showing the platform that the tip was given on.

& with a simple click on the "Claim" button gets you directly to that place so it can be claimed without looking for it among any of the comments etc.

It isn't automated. Not for now at least!

i missed that. thanks

No worries mate, have already taken the "automation" note down, as a confirmation to that idea.

Some things can be automated, if the user so wishes.

Will need to be done and tested a lot prior to implementation, to make sure there is little to no risk of any hack. That is the hard and time consuming part.

@bil.prag They actually answered my concern. They originally didn't do the best job of communicating the mechanics of how that would work, but they did in a reply, and now are going to communicate that better so Devs can understand the project enough to decide if they should support it.

I agree it is clumsy, but as long as they don't get banned for spam from Youtube etc (which shouldn't happen if they are posting from the User's account with the needed scope) it should work pretty well!!

@lightproject I forgot to ask, is there a time window where the user must accept the tokens by or else it's refunded? I think this would be great for both the sender's peace of mind, and also you could add a sense of urgency in the comment( You have 72 hours to accept your Hive) Another idea, could say the USD worth too

e.g.

@godsol has sent you a 10 hive tip! That's worth $2.10 at today's rate. Claim your hive here in the next 72 hours or it will disappear: link-goes.here/

Exactly @bill.prag. Refunds are completely autonomous and automatic btw.

it is 30 day period. after 30 days you get a refund if not claimed.

Ah okay, missed that too, thanks!

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