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RE: Spammers be like...

in #spam6 years ago (edited)

You are being very nice and I hear you, but no - I think this place is run like the mob. It's plain and simple. I also thought what this guy is doing was good, but when the lens is cleared and you take a proper look at the way things are being done. No. So he did something good in one instance, found a scam.. fraud, whatever.. but to then go ahead and use bots to randomly bust peoples knees? And then post this sort of nonsensical post and then OH THE ASS_kissing here!

If some people fart here, it becomes SBD 100 so why not if someone posts a meme? Leave them alone! We HAVE to leave the God fathers alone because we have no choice. No! This is wrong. Completely wrong.

What happened earlier today - @upv4life is a project I supported with 1 STEEM some four months ago. The project keeps supporting my posts. Now because one bot blacklists the account we must all agree?

Call me a cry baby. Go mess with my posts. I don't care. I will plough money into this project just to have it stolen by thugs to prove a point: I NEVER GIVE IN TO BULLYING ever.

@themarkymark came immediately to an unrelated post and bullied me. It is plain to see. He thinks I won't reveal it and if I do, nothing will happen. This is wrong!

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You were (small) flagged in return for flagging my bot that exposes users who have been put on the blacklist for Spam, Plagiarism, or Fraud. You have also been talking trash ever since.

If I really wanted to flag you, there would be much more and much harder.

I never wanted to respond to immature bullies, but for the sake of argument and maturity, i am going to. I have already engaged you on the points, and you have run away from addressing the points I raise by giving your divine and unsupported opinion here and calling my points: trash.

So you admit that you went to a non-relevant post of mine because I dared to exercise my right to flag spam. Your bot leaves comments that are not relevant to the thread. And it's owner is guilty of abusing the flag system: a flag is meant to express disagreement with the content, not to exercise punishment for something that isn't relevant. The way you used the flag was an ABUSE of the flag system, in itself a form of SPAM.

You can call whatever I am saying trash if you like. You can create another blacklist of your own and place me on a that blacklist if you like. But here's the thing: trash is an opinion. SPAM can be easily defined, and your bot is spamming. There is no dispute about it.

If an account is guilty of something, provide proof. You can never fight spam with spam. What you are doing is wrong. This is my opinion, and you can agree or disagree by providing an argument. Calling what I am saying trash merely suggests that you have no counter to the points I am putting here.

Your content is uninformative, if I wanted to I would flag it and I would be within my rights. Should I then expect punishment? Perhaps from an abusive person. Could anything be done agains someone who abuses flags as you do? I wish there were something to be done about it. Your methods are child-like, and thuggish.

With intelligence and power come responsibility. You are judge, jury and executioner. If I went about with a naughty list, flagging left, right and center, you would stop me with the argument I had no right to abuuse the flagging system. Who's going to stop you? Stop making yourself guilty of the very things you claim tobe fighting. Approach matters with caution. Treat people with respect. Only God can place people on a naughty list without thinking twice. When you spam other people's accounts and you are wrong, how do you reverse the damage you have done? Think about that for a minute.

I feel guilty for removing my support for you as witness, because that action of mine was not relevant and a form of unfair punishment on you. I am sure given time and as this argument unfolds 9if it does unfold) i will return it eventually because I am a mature person. My vote is tiny, but it is a matter of principle, nothing else to me.

I spend 10-40+ hours a week identifying spammers and plagiarists and blacklisting them so they can't use bid bots and are dealt with by SteemCleaners. The messages are to warn people and provide a service. It is similar to the Cheetah service that performs a similar service and has for a long time.

I am sure you mean well, but I believe that your methods are wrong. You can not appoint yourself judge and jury and punish opposition. Cheetah can clearly see when someone is copying and pasting - what you are doing is more complex and there is great margin for error. I suggest that you continue to develop better and better content or better methods that allow for transparency, appeals, reviews and the like. Spamming and harrassing people who object is not a method for civilized communities.

Even bots are human ;-) and may make wrong decisions at times.

allow me to define (small) flag in playground politics. I stand up and show you a yellow flag in a game of soccer, and you go ahead and poke my sister in the bum.

If I poked your sister in the bum, I would think I would have remembered it. Tell her I said Hi though.

You may remember or you may not because the way she would slap you into a date in the future, you would not land well.

You do have a rather good sense of humor. I looked at some of your post and I think it's a good idea to help others if it focuses on that specifically. All in life isn't fair, granted, but it doesn't help if everyone turns into a crook. It's us small pee on's that end up carrying the brunt of honesty in the world.

Nice of you to take a look. Real interaction is a great thing but seemingly so rare here (human politics I suppose). A shame really, because as you point out, it's our humanity that is going to make sure we live a better quality of life. If it weren't for something called humanity, we'd have bleak neighbourhoods, dirty, etc. We are taught these basics as kids. How come some of us forget these things as adults? Maybe some were not paying attention or just never got it in the first place. Cheers.