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RE: Steem Business Alliance Open for Business - Join our Discord to be Part of the Discussion

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“Steem Business Alliance”
“Governance process”

I still don’t understand where the experience/expertise is in this “alliance.” I asked a month or so ago about this and I received an answer that tells me there is essentially none.

What qualifications do any of these delegation-funded groups or the individuals in them have when it comes to operating a business, corporate or corporate-like governance, and vetting other actual businesses and businessmen?

It seems to me that there just happens to be a group of groups that are receiving generous delegations for unproven projects without revenue models, then trying to find something to do in order to justify their existence and delegation - and to make it appear to the community that they are somehow qualified to make business decisions and/or recruit or attract businessmen and investors.

Is there anyone among these various groups who has any real-world experience doing anything similar in the business world? Or are we supposed to just support random Steem users with no relevant expertise and hope for the best?

I’m not asking these questions to denigrate anyone involved. I’m asking because this “alliance” is acting under the pretense that they are somehow the business leaders on Steem (as the name implies), but which are mostly supported by Ned/Steemit delegations and have no business/revenue model.

We don’t need more amateur groups/projects trying to take up the mantle of commerce and investment if they have no clue what they’re doing. We don’t need them trying to force something that doesn’t exist today for what is likely a long list of good/valid reasons. We certainly don’t need them pretending to be the “face” of business on the Steem blockchain. Actual businessmen and investors will know better.

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Exactly.
If you want to see another gem, check the last post from @ whatsup.

The difference is I was talking about an idea, for people to brainstorm.

I have no funding, no delegation from steemit, inc and I asked for nothing, certainly not resumes and applications. ;)

Nor have I ever asked for or received those things. I agree with both of you here though.

Saying the word business over and over again seems very odd, with no sign of any special business concepts or skills they would like to provide.

For what little my opinion seems to be worth - I think a reasonable question has been posed here - although it has come across a bit tough or complainy or something lol!

I'm also concerned a little this post is worth $150 USD??

Most of the post reward comes from the upvotes of the groups involved in this “business” alliance who have been given delegation.

Is there a steem WhatsApp group?

No, as far as I know.

Did you see my reply when you asked a month ago?

In short: Yes there are individuals in the SBA, myself included, with experience from building and facilitating a platform for businesses and relevant organisations to share best practice and build common resources. Some from oil and gas (@starkerz) and myself from the space sector. We are not, nor do we claim to be, an authority on how businesses ought to run. If it appears that way then we may have to do a better job communicating. However, we want to build a strategic alliance where different Steem-based businesses and individuals can work more effectively together to build and share best practice, tools relevant for business, and other complementary resources. I hope this helped clarify.

Do you have a revenue model? Or do you have any businesses that you plan to support that have a revenue model?

Everyone on here just wants to use steem to build without ever actually attaching much value to it. We need to create a sustainable business first, then integrate steem.

Did you see my reply when you asked a month ago?

Yes. It was your reply that made me realize how inexperienced this group is.

Yes there are individuals in the SBA, myself included, with experience from building and facilitating a platform for businesses and relevant organisations to share best practice and build common resources. Some from oil and gas (@starkerz) and myself from the space sector.

I don’t know what this means. Are you saying that you are businessmen that have operated and managed businesses yourselves? Are you saying that you have structured and/or participated in corporate(-like) governance? Are there only two individuals out of the five groups of people who might have some relevant experience?

we want to build a strategic alliance where different Steem-based businesses and individuals can work more effectively together to build and share best practice, tools relevant for business, and other complementary resources.

Well that’s the thing. How can you achieve that when this “business alliance” has so little experience doing it and apparently no contacts or prospects to reach out to in order to get started on your goals? And since there are so few (if any) actual businesses beating down the door to adopt Steem, you’re going to have to put in a lot of time and energy to find and “recruit” them. But again - how will you do that when this “business alliance” doesn’t know how to find, approach, and persuade businessmen to use the Steem blockchain for their business?

Has that even been addressed by any of the individuals in your group? Or are you just expecting the rest of the “community” to figure that out for you? Because, in that case, your alliance isn’t needed.

This explains a bit better what the group is up to.

For what its worth:

-I think its good your trying to do something positive. Its sounds a bit your just getting started and doing a discovery phase.
-Are there some intro post links or something to the key people running this; I think the other people whom are reasonably a bit upset with Steem at the moment and leaving comments have some points, although they are coming across a bit negatives/frustrated.
-I will see if i can hop in this channel thing later to discover a bit more and see if my experience and ideas are inline with the groups vision?? (which is still a little unclear - and possibly giving people doubts on business experience etc).

Cheers

Nice to see a measured reply. It’s much appreciated and provides a more moderate view on this thread.

Mate, criticism is not a bad thing, especially when it is blunt and very straight to the point.

I dare say, a fully up front comment, without any tippy toeing around or patting on the back is something that I personally appreciate when talking about anything that I care about.

So, even if the up front tone of the comment may be too abrupt for many out there, try and look at it for what it says and not "how" it is said.

;)

I came from out of nowhere specifically to give your comment a thumbs up, Jack. Because I am always listening and I am everywhere. ;)