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RE: Water is Not a Fuel: The GEET Engine Scam

in #steemit7 years ago

Seems completely possible to me! Difference is, I can appreciate that the air is 78 percent nitrogen , and liquids tend to have "air" dissolved in it. The amount of air that can be dissolved in water increases with pressure and decreases with temperature. So if you use heat and vacuum, you can get nitrogen gas out of any liquid added to these bubbling setups, like coffee for instance. ICE already run on nitrogen gas from the atmosphere, just no one talks about it. Prove it? Well gas is a hydrocarbon, and the way it works with nitrogen is:
"NITROGEN AND HYDROGEN
Hydrogen can be made to react with nitrogen. Once again, this is a situation not found in nature. Hydrogen ordinarily doesn't exist in elemental form. Even when it is artificially made and it is reacted with nitrogen, the nitrogen isn't being "burned". Rather, it is the substance supporting the "burning." "

http://sciencing.com/nitrogen-combustible-5397514.html

Also, for the GEET case and it's possible "plasma chamber" function:

"THUNDER STORMS
There are also special circumstances in which nitrogen can be combusted. One of these is during a thunderstorm. Lightning causes some nitrogen to react with oxygen, forming oxides.
This is because lightning creates artificially enormous temperatures and pressures. Temperatures under such circumstances reach as high as 30,000 degrees. This ionizes nitrogen and oxygen, stripping them of electrons. Sometimes they will regain their electrons, with no net result. At other times, they combine together, creating the oxides as shown above. The oxides can react, in turn, with moisture in the air. Some of that water comes to earth in the form of raindrops, which enriches the soil."

So it is completely scientifically possible!
Even stars seem to be no exception in using this. Ever see these GEET people also putting sugar packets in the bubblers too? Sugar makes great carbon when burned, which leads to the next mainstream science lesson and what maybe going on in their "reaction chambers"........

"The CNO cycle (for carbon–nitrogen–oxygen) is one of the two known sets of fusion reactions by which stars convert hydrogen to helium, the other being the proton–proton chain reaction. Unlike the latter, the CNO cycle is a catalytic cycle.In the CNO cycle, four protons fuse, using carbon, nitrogen and oxygen isotopes as catalysts, to produce one alpha particle, two positrons and two electron neutrinos. Although there are various paths and catalysts involved in the CNO cycles, all these cycles have the same net result.
The positrons will almost instantly annihilate with electrons, releasing energy in the form of gamma rays. The neutrinos escape from the star carrying away some energy. One nucleus goes to become carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen isotopes through a number of transformations in an endless loop."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNO_cycle

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"Seems completely possible to me!"

That an engine can run on coffee? And that it was given to Paul Pantone by an angel named Mrs. Cunningham? In order for GEET to be legitimate, angels must exist. That's a pretty steep burden of proof to overcome.

Even stars seem to be no exception in using this.

So a foot of piping with some additional metal inside is capable of replicating the conditions inside of stars?

ICE already run on nitrogen gas from the atmosphere, just no one talks about it.

Nobody talks about it because that is not actually how ICE works. The usable energy in liquid hydrocarbons does not come from nitrogen. ICE is air breathing because it needs oxygen from the air, not nitrogen, which as a noble gas is extremely stable/nonreactive.

We don't need to argue about this. The passage of time will settle the matter. Ten years from now, no cars or any other mass produced products based on ICE technology will be using the GEET engine.

Twenty years from now, still no GEET engines being mass produced and sold in consumer products. Probably you will still believe it's because of the government or big oil, even though electric cars are in increasingly widespread use, as are rooftop solar panels, both of which make more sense to suppress as competitors to oil than an engine which still needs fuel.

Thirty years from now, still no GEET engine based products. Maybe by this point you will begin to wonder if you were mistaken.

Forty years from now, still no GEET engine based products. Probably by this point you will realize that the reason for this is that it never worked as promised, the same reason MDI never puts its compressed air cars into production.

However by then you and I will not be in contact. Neither will I be in contact with the fellow who flagged a bunch of my posts because of this dispute. That's a shame. Assuming he has accepted by that time that I was right, and only trying to help him avoid being taken in by an investor scam, he will be unable to apologize to me or make things right.

You clearly have a chip on your shoulder. I was just referring to the scientific possibilities in it working in a way you haven't even stopped to consider in this piece. I'm not going to take the time to address all your argumentum ad hominems here.
Don't know what I mean? For example, "In order for GEET to be legitimate, angels must exist." = unscientific and logical fallacy
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

But to address your more productive points:
"So a foot of piping with some additional metal inside is capable of replicating the conditions inside of stars?"
Why not? We replicate light and heat from stars with much less. If it is a "plasma reactor" and stars are an almost entirely ionized ball of plasma, and plasma science is REAL, and we make plasma on earth everyday........so what is your real problem with me suggesting such a mechanism?? bias?

"Nobody talks about it because that is not actually how ICE works. The usable energy in liquid hydrocarbons does not come from nitrogen."
I never said it did, I'm suggesting it adds to the process, the same reason people use nitrous oxide(N2O) to boost engine performance even though they like to say it is for it's oxygen, but if that was the case, people would be obviously using oxygen tanks in their cars instead of nitrous tanks.

I would suggest, do to your past, that you be extra careful not to become a "pseudo skeptic" fundamentalist.

http://www.skepticalaboutskeptics.org/

BTW, What are your qualifications in all this again? I mean besides once going to a fundamentalist Christian school as a kid. Just curious as to what your technical background may be.
Take it easy man, don't get so worked up over this stuff, it isn't like they stole YOUR money. After all the people that have paid for motors, plans, and classes, I can't seem to really find any that are as pissed off as much as you about all this! What are you in this for? feeling good about yourself? I just don't understand, sorry if questions come across as offensive, just wondering what is making you tick other than your fundamentalist Christian background. Not looking to argue, just trying to have a discussion on "social media".
Have a great day! And don't let this stuff ruin it for you! :)

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