@berniesanders we found that having all of the bot comments makes it difficult for this article to be used as a conversation thread. We don't see why its rude to hide those comments, will you please elaborate on why you feel it is wrong for us to clear the comment space for other peoples solutions to be more easily seen?
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why the heck would you use a dozen upvote bots in the first place? and then flag them? If i sold you a service, and then you flagged me, I wouldn't want you as my customer.... it's just ignorant.
also, ignorant is hitting your post with every upvote service in the steemiverse.
upvote bots are supposed to help you get a bit of visibility, so other people will read your post and decide to vote it or not. you are using them like a junkie... it's quite a bit more socially acceptable to use them sparingly, and make better content if you don't get enough natural votes.
also, you can just upvote the comments you like and then the real comments rise. I prefer a requested bot comment to some of the bs fake comments, tbh. flagging the vote bots that you paid for? smh.....
Maybe the author wanted to hide the fact that he paid for every vote buying service that exists on this platform to bring this piece of content into a trending position. Also the author used (pardon abused) the tag #steemfest and put the word 'minnow support' in the headline to improve visibility. This author pratices everythig but no minnow support.
The tag abuse might be even an interesting issue for @steemcleaners.
Actually, we decided to do it because we noticed there was an inverse relationship between bot comments and human commenters. We wanted more human commenters to participate in order to give people a voice on the topics we are bringing to Steemit.
This is untrue. Our Steemit guild is designed to support as many people who participate in it. We share our upvotes in strategic sessions, boosting people's content frequently. We're helping a lot of smaller accounts rise up and gain followers quickly.
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this is also spam, and a dangerous thread to be commenting irrelevant material.
There's no hiding the usage of upvote bots. We've removed the steemfest tag upon your request @surfermarly.
We have alot to offer minnnows. We even made a free academy we made for minnows and were developing guild software to support more authors in being seen https://awakening-sovereignty-collective.teachable.com/p/steemit-academy
A simpler way would have been to offer upvotes to human replies and actually help people. Instead, it was chosen to slap the bots.
I didn't request to remove the tag, you were abusing it to get more visibility.
Funny enough that you promote "authenticity" in your super academy, while you are practicing the complete opposite by yourself:
Check out my account @steemaniacs and you will notice: everything that you are pretending to do was already invented and honestly (!) practiced long time before you started.
Actions speak louder than words and this community has an eye on your doings now. Good luck!
Well said mate.
Actually, this is quite funny. Our media agency has noticed that there is an inverse relationship between the number of bot comments and the number of human comments. The more bot comments there are, the less likely people seem to want to comment. Since it is the people we want to get in touch with, to create a relationship with the audience here before our Beta-launch in December, we wanted to encourage commenters as much as possible. We think it's important to create these relationships now, to show how authentic we are, as a side-effect of flipping the switch of our advertising potential is a significant adoption of Steemit by a wider audience.
I find it really interesting that this causes such an emotional reaction in people, which is self-evident by the changes in their written diction when compared to other comments they make. I have to question why that is. What specifically perturbs you about any of the concerns you bring up?
Personally, I feel the majority of people acting negatively are doing so unconsciously: that drama has been stirred up and everyone wants to jump on board and participate in the bashing. It is the thanatos of human nature that desires to call someone a junkie and willingly jumps on such an opportunity that seems favorable without social ramifications of doing so. Because it doesn't make sense that someone who aligns with esoteric philosophy to stand opposed to an organization that is actively promoting esoteric principles in alignment with highest collective good. Logically, in the big picture, it seems most likely that your concerns are arising from a short-sighted position that is not taking into consideration all the potential implications of the Earth Nation actions. Obviously, it's not an us vs them conflict, but to oppose us is to oppose an organization which actively strives to make the world a better place, and has a history of being transparent in how it is achieving this in a manner that grows the site and spreads the wealth with our steemit guild.
In my opinion, that's where real ignorance lies.
the real reason people comment less when there are a lot of bot comments, is because if you have to pay so many bots for your content to be popular, then your content must not be very good. so people see all the bots and think, why does the author think it's so valueless they must pay 10 bots to vote for it, hmm it must not be good content, I won't engage.
pass that on to your media consultants, free of charge.
flagging your paid advertisers is like giving a spanking to people who helped you. I know quite a few bot developers, and I will make sure they know this happens, so they can stop servicing people who "reward" their service with a downvote.
We put the smallest amount of down-vote in to the comments of those bots @inquiringtimes to clear the space for more room for dialogue.
We recommend that upvote bots set an option to not have them auto-comment or a smaller comment box so it doesn't take up so much space.
If our 1 cent flags are somehow harming the bots themselves, we'd be happy to upvote comments to offset the loss.
You can say it's bad logic, but I know these things from a few months of digging deep. This whole site is a deep well of knowledge, first thing first, etiquette. Flags are not to be used in an idle fashion. They are akin to throwing a glove on the ground or taking your glasses off and handing to a friend. It's asking for a fight. If you had been paying attention, there is quite a bit of controversy over the use of bots and providing the service. It's best left for minnows and people who don't have visibility. Now you've opened up Pandora's box. The best way to proceed is to speak softly, and pay more attention to how the rest of the community behaves. Just like in any community. You have a chance to redeem yourself, it's just going to be harder. All eyes are on you now. Cite your images. Reference quotes, stay clear of any hint of plagairism
You are really nailing this dialog man, it's a joy to behold :D
This is very poor logic. Given that any content we have produced is met with a large positive reception, it is safe to say that the content we produce is good.
In fact, the only negative thing people can find about our content is that we use bots. I think that's a pretty solid argument that our content has some sort of quality associated with it.
Again, poor logic. One must ask how we got 800+ followers in a couple short weeks. Because we used bots, we gathered a sizable following quickly. That's decent engagement.
We aren't trying to reach people who act unconsciously and walk away from an article for reasons other than the content of the article itself. The people who would act on reflex to someone using bots are not thinking critically. It's much more beneficial to focus on attracting a following of conscious individuals who realize the use and downvoting of bots is a meaningless detail when compared to everything we are manifesting.
"I was going to walk into the mission and help feed starving people, but I would have had to step on the grass to do so."
If I paid money for a car, and the dealer slapped a big sticker on the windshield, I would take the sticker off. The dealership has my money, so me removing their ad from the product I bought has no bearing on the dealership.
good luck with that.
@earthnation, I believed censorship is a bad thing and that Steem should be an okay place for everyone to get together and collaborate as a community.
You're ridiculing this principle just by being here on Steemit. For the good of the rewards pool and for the good of our community, please stop milking upvote bots and promoting spammy content.