My suggestion is to limit the use of voting bots. Users who have bad reputation and users with high SP power above 5000 SP should not use voting bots. That way only Minnows can benefit from the voting bots, because Dolphins and Whales will end up anyway on the trending page.
Voting bots are made to support Minnows and make their posts visible.
Another suggestion is to push all the promoted posts whether by Steemit or voting bots to the "Promoted" section. That way the "Trending" section will stay clean all the time :)
This is not true. I have 9k SP and I get 2-10$ per post (If I don't use bots).
Thing is @hanen how do you stop someone from using a bot? As far as the steem platform goes it does not know if someone is buying a vote. It could detect if money was sent to the account with a link to the post but then they would take the buying of votes off platform.
I guess we could use human intervention along with an algorithm to sort out likely bots like we do with spam. That is, flag the accounts that are known bots.
@petervroom You can know if anybody using voting bots by checking the voters list. There you find always the names of the voting bots on the top.
Flagging bots will cause another big war that wont end. With the time more people will be involved and bots will defend themselves too. Thats the problem!
@fbslo The 5000 SP was just an example. It can be more than that, depends on the platforms decision. But believe me it will make a big change here.
Thing is bots are here to stay in the modern world. Whether it's a bot making a car that takes a job away or a poker bot or a world of warcraft bot. So how can we learn to coexist with them like we have learned to do with each other as humans in civilized society?
@ petervroom Actually i dont have any problems with bots. I use them sometimes and find them very helpful. But what I dont like about bots is upvoting comments, because it doesnt make any sense. Also upvoting DMania posts, because some of the users are not posting original content.
So dont misunderstand me, I dont have any problems with bots, but there are some big guys here who have problems with them for the right reasons :)
It is difficult for bots to check every post before upvoting it and every user has the right to use them, but for the right post.
Wow this is what we are looking for . i really like your suggestion dear . we need such positive suggestion to make the steemit community better and secure and clean . @ned we need you to look for this suggestion please . to solve the current problems
Thank you :) I wrote also a post yesterday regarding this problem, but as you know Minnows posts are always invisible :(
I like your suggestion; the SP>5000 issue is it would incentivize people with high steem power to power down so they can keep using voting bots. However, I do think bot owners should add additional coding in their bot to filter out low reputation scores. The Trending page should be updated to not only pull upvotes and reward but should also account for reputation of the author and flags.
@danvillani You got a good point, as everybody is looking for benefits they will do everything possible :) You are right, bot owners have to change many things. Also remove the option of upvoting comments, because it doesnt make any sense.
to make it even more difficult for plankton to start who start with reputation of a mere 25? But then plankton don't have enough steem dollar to buy vote bots anyway so it might not be that much of a difference.
This is something I think may work the best. We publicly acknowledged that the bots are a legit marketing tool and remove the stigma from using them
One problem I see with the first proposal though (5k SP limit) is that big accounts would just create a bunch of proxy accounts with the SP under the limit, and that way circumvent the restriction.
Yes you are right. They will find solutions to use bots. But promoted posts should be in the promoted section, because thats where they belong.
You are aware that the lowest group on Steemit is plankton and we need to incentivise plankton to stay and not abandon there accounts after a month.
If you are a Minnow you already made it. This was probably different a year ago. It might have been easier then to rise the Minnow then but right now it seems almost impossible.
Apart from that I had a similar idea using a inverse exponential relation between steem power and VEST. VEST is what makes your votes powerful and right now there is a linear connection between VEST and steem power and I think that was a mistake.
https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmYnumzLv5W4o8pWZ8mn9rpk7ntnDhJs2jtykWxQNKG5KL
Oh i wasnt aware of that. Well I am here for nearly 6 months now, but feel a lot of change in the platform. Many inactive users. It wasnt like this when I joined in the first weeks, but I still have hope that everything will be better in the next months.
You can see the level on the Board of honour:
http://steemitboard.com/board.html?user=krischik
http://steemitboard.com/board.html?user=hanen
and on Busy:
https://busy.org/@krischik
https://busy.org/@hanen
And congratulations on making minnow in 6 month. That is an achievement.
Oh thats great. Thank you for the information :)