Earlier I asked @sweetsssj why she doesn't upvote any replies to her blog and I used the word any because up to then, I did not see any that she upvoted.
note: since this time, sweetsssj suddenly started to upvote some of her replies.
From that one simple question, @sweetsssj, went on a rant and became very defensive and wrote some well written, lengthy replies to me. She went on and insisted that she upvotes replies to her blogs and then insisted that she writess all of her blogs including coding, editing and all photos by herself. That's' great that she can do all that by herself but how?
And when I posted this link in the replies, "she" suddenly began to flag it.
http://catchawhale.com/whale.php?username=@sweetsssj
I thought this was odd so I looked her name up on YouTube and found only one video of her speaking and it was not in English.
There is not a single video of her speaking English. Can she really be typing well writing blogs and replies by herself? Does it even matter?
Well, to me it does when someone on here is not who they really are. And if I am proven wrong, I will be the first to admit it and apologize to sweetsssj.
However, if this is not what it appears to be and is a team or a company producing all of the blogs, photos and videos and her numerous social media accounts, doesn't that go against what Steemit stands for? Integrity!
After her defensive replies to me and the way she spoke to me, I feel like I have to write this. It wouldn't matter if this person is paying people to do a lot of the work for her but she insist she is the only one producing all of this. It doesn't seem right to me.
The @sweetsssj account is earning approximately $40,000 per month and $480,000 per year. There are companies and even corporations who don't earn that much with a team of employees working for them.
Sweetsssj has refuted your baseless claims in response to your trolling comments on her posts. As one of the original members of Steemit, I have known her for many months. She is very honest and hardworking. No one creates a better blog on here than she does. Free speech and criticism are quite welcome on Steemit, but your comments and persistent trolling have gone well beyond that now. Trolls are not welcome here.
Doesn't that seem a little power crazy to you that so many users can be essentially crippled permanently over a disagreement? Like, from what I can tell from this post, the OP seems polite but skeptical, willing to accept evidence contrary to what they think. The user has even resteemed a sweetsssj post not too long ago.
It's perfectly fine for whales to simply ignore the answers... It's not abusive to keep pushing to find an answer one is looking for.
Perhaps an op's post is pointless or dumb or wrong, but I've rarely seen one which is threatening or abusive.
I feel if somebody is trolling unnecessarily, they should be punished in some way but A) We need criteria laid out as what is considered unacceptable behaviour and B) pretty much permanently crippling an account that otherwise seems to be an honest account isn't the answer.
The arbitrary nature of downvoting on this website is one of the worrisome things I think should be addressed. I mean, I'm worried that If this post annoys you, I can say goodbye to the dozens of hours of hard work I've put into this site, and I'm literally out of a job as of a couple of weeks ago so that could be devastating.
Edit - Also 'So today I was cyberbullied on Steemit and continuously received harassing messages from a member that included assault and threats.
The member also threatened to gang up on me and have his Steemit friends flag my blog post and replies so he could lower my reputation score. My reputation score is now down to 4.'
Is this really acceptable simply because the balance of power leans that way?
I agree that discussion should be out there. That's why I did not flag this user's main post, even though it was baselessly defamatory, using stolen images to make money from casting doubt on a longtime Steemit author. I only flagged his/her trolling comments, which were persistently vicious, even after the troll's target had set the record straight with her responses. We need diversity of opinion, but we do not need trolls.
I can imagine this person being obsessively irritating but yeah, maybe it's something to consider in one of the later updates, along with more mods in general one day!
More than irritating, that person's comments suggest some real prejudice and are strongly defamatory. If someone comes in brand new and tries to make a name for himself by tearing down others who have proven themselves and who he knows nothing about, questioning whether this member speaks English and uses cheap labor to help with her posts, then that behavior doesn't belong here. @sweetsssj is one of the hardest working people on Steemit and I have had numerous conversations with her in English over a period of many months. Believe me, I don't use that downvote power lightly and only do so very, very infrequently when there is a clear cut case. Beyond that, I fully agree with you we need to continue discussing how best to handle trolls without anyone misusing their power.
Fortunately, there are checks and balances even now: I am being watched and anyone who disagrees with my actions has time to review the facts and show me if I have voted mistakenly. If so, my votes can be removed or countered by others in the community for several days still. In this case, I don't see that happening because the troll's comments were way beyond my understanding of the standards that this community has shown to uphold to prevent the type of harassment they displayed.
I didn't have any clue about the reviewing board, that's certainly something worthwhile, cool.
And yeah I did a ctrl+F on her post and searched this users name and there were perhaps hundreds of results... pretty wild =/
Thanks for taking the time to respond!
The whole ability of someone to organize a group of other people on Steemit to lower your reputation score is one thing that's going to prove a major hindrance to having people continuously create valuable content on this site. From the brief time I've been here, I've noticed that quantity seems to greatly overshadow quality when it comes to blogs, as a blog replete with misspellings detailing today's walk to the mailbox easily gets ten times (and in many cases hundreds of times) the upvotes a detailed blog about the first submersible used in war would, for example. I find that very curious given that I was told Steem values quality content.
I'm not particularly concerned with earning money or "reputation" here, but it'd be nice if people actually read blogs instead of just upvoting anything posted by people who have the ability to like their comment and thus give them a $1 payout.
I think you've nailed the point about why the ability to down vote is so dangerous and in almost all cases I've heard of leads to bullying not helping quality. Flagging to request real review of content or to add meta data like NSFW (again with actual review) is useful. Flagging as a mechanism for trolling is not. So baseless flagging is IMO as bad as baseless trolling.
Why people care about that anyway?
Jealousy?
Hello all. I usually don't get into these kinds of conversations on here because it really is not healthy for any of us. But, I just want to make some points.
Let me just say that it is quite possible to have blog posts as nice as @sweetsssj without a professional crew. To prove it, I will do a similar post as the one's she does and come back and paste the link here. I'll try to get that done in the next couple of days. Now, that's not to say that she does not own the blog and that the blog is not done up by professionals. That's not what I'm out to prove, just that it can be done. Which brings me to my next point.
It really does not matter if the person in these blog posts is the blogger or not, nor does it matter that she chooses to pay professionals to make the blog bling like it does. It really doesn't. It is good content and quite entertaining, as no one can deny.
Steemit is an open project where anyone can do exactly what this blog is doing, given the time, resources, drive and creativity. I see that as an opportunity. And as far as people upvoting themselves and not others is also part of this opportunity, which probably won't last forever, given the constant hard forks. So, if anybody can invest enough steem for their vote to be worth a few dollars or more and they upvote themselves and Steemit allows it, then more power to them (no pun intended but it fits). The Steemit powers-that-be are well aware of all the things that people can complain about, when it comes to those making all the money on here, and they can change it if they so choose. But until then, my advice would be to don't hate and emulate.
@randompic, taking a look at your blog posts, I see that you too could get your blog poppin' because you have good taste in random pics. That's a good concept, just ask UberFacts on Twitter.
My advice is when you see somebody ballin' on here, instead of trying to tear them down, do you best to see what you can learn about why they are so successful. Spewing haterade is not a good look and you never know who's looking.
Just my 2 cents.
Peace.
Thank you! I agree.
It does not matter. It is very realistic for her to do her posts. I mean come on.. The 'coding' she does isn't building a new software, it's making a blog post.. Very doable for anyone. I don't want to get too tied up into this, just @randompic, start chilling out please. You could be much rather spending your time doing something positive rather than trying to put others down.
I calling Catfish!! Max and Nev will help us figure this out!!! #CatfishSteemItEdition
I hear ya. What you are describing is called capitalism and it is in everything. My whole point is that there is no point in publicly ridiculing someone else's blog. Spin that anger energy into something positive for yourself. For example, look how long my response was to you and how long yours is to me. Both of us could have put up another blog post about something in the time it took to do this.
You are just as smart, capable and creative as anyone else on this platform. Live and let live and let Steemit take care of whatever. And if they don't, then you still keep Steeming. You can do it. Maybe we can come up with some kind of way to help each other get to dolphin status. That would be cool.
But, forget about being mad at somebody else because you feel they are not presenting themselves legitimately, it doesn't matter. This is a train and it's moving fast. You're in early. It's still in its infancy. Get on it before it gets to far up the tracks.
I totally DISAGREE with you.
She does not need to understand or speak English
She gives people great content
You can tell that a lot of time has gone into making her stuff
Her followers enjoy what she gives them
Her followers dont care who takes her pictures
You can unfollow her if you are still not getting Upvotes from her..
actually I follow her and this does matter to me. why would I want to look at something put together by a production crew? It's fraudulent to portray yourself as something you are not!!! I certainly hope that isn't the case. I will wait for now, but after careful thought and the backlash this person is getting over a question about authenticity is really troublesome. I read the white paper, it's beginning to appear that some others on here really need to revisit it.
Chris
You clearly don't understand the issue at hand. Organising witch hunts and spamming hundreds of defamatory replies making baseless claims is trolling. If you search for yourself and see where the conversation first started sweetsssj refuted his claims and then he launched an all out assault on her. I for one trust donkeypong as well as ned (the ceo) and the countless others who have encountered her and spoken with her in person to know she's the real deal.
This person has decided to make it a personal vendetta to try discredit an author who has been a large part of Steemit from very early on. It is ridiculous and disgusting.
Nobody should have to video verify who they are, it doesn't matter whether they make $1000 a post, or $1,000,000 a post. Can you imagine the precedent that would set on the platform ? How many people on Steemit operate completely anonymously, without disclosure of their names and personal pictures? Why then should one person be singled out who already has proven their integrity since the beginning of Steemit over a (also completely anonymous) vicious user who posts nothing but other people's content and then plays the victim.
I will look if they are still there, but for some reason I don't see why this guys would troll, but hey, I'll look. Thanks
Chris
The fact does not change that he was well and truly trolling. There are plenty of reasons that I can think of, a few obvious ones would be jealousy and immaturity.
He made a post boasting about how he gained followers whilst sweet lost some. Well, I honestly don't think sweet cares because people recognise valuable content when they see it, and randompic provides nothing close to that.
https://steemit.com/cats/@randompic/re-sweetsssj-re-sneakgeekz-re-sweetsssj-just-kitty-raising-kittens-from-birth-the-joys-of-being-a-crazy-cat-lady-20170702t052420842z
This is where it all started.
In the post about frogs, he then literally posts 200 comments making baseless, defamatory accusations, spamming almost every single reply from other users with a comment.
Some of those comments were downvoted leading to his lowered reputation. They were downvoted because the community does not condone trolling. He is welcome to have his enquiry, but spamming 200 comments, spreading lies is the exact definition of what cyber bullying is. How ironic that now plays the victim to cyber bullying FULLY knowing that he was the one to dish it out in the first place.
How pathetic.
Ok I actually used the last 2 hours milling over his and her comments replies etc. Here is what I noticed. It started about 6 days ago. By him, (of course) we know this and don't dispute it. However, the repetitive nature of what ppl are calling "trolling" yes to an extent it is I will agree partially, but the takeaway here for me is that @randompic didn't go all in ballistic until he got knocked down to 4, after getting his mildly few comments down voted, and some lunatic using profanity, aggression, and threats against him. That persons replies WERE NOT down voted by one whale.
I believe this is a problem as well. I read the white paper and both sides can claim fault easily. I did notice something tho about @sweetsssj she has posted comments, but when I go to find context in the comments section, I cannot find the comment that was hyperlinked. I scrolled through hundreds of comments to find the comment in her reply section and there isn't anything there. Now since the blockchain is recording everything, I am beginning to wonder how many comments were deleted after the fact.
I would like steemit founders to fix this. It is a worrisome problem that if spoken about enough outside the platform will damage the Steemit brand. As I said before this is a black eye for Steemit. I will continue to believe so until whale act appropriately.
BTW I was flagged by a whale after responding to a video where the author asked for responses. Nothing happened to him, all that happened was I got flagged, and then ignored by the Steemit help board.
They really need to get their heads out of their collective 4 points of contact and fix this. If this was my baby and my reputation (not just a number beside my name) was on the line, I'd be all over this issue. But hey, that is the way I was raised...
Chris
I don't even see how @amarie is upset.. I hope she can be matured again with her comments and not respond to you.
Please believe me...I am not upset at all. We are just having a debate and their's nothing to be mad about. We all have our views. But, no, it takes a lot more than this to get me upset. Life is too short and I'm a big advocate for a healthy mind, body and spirit and anger is like a cancer that eats on the host. I have love for all of yall in this chat, even if your views are not the same as mine. Like I mentioned above, which nobody commented on. We can maybe form some type of group to help each other to dolphin status, but there's got to be trust and loyalty. There's nothing wrong with people using their resources to make great blogs. It would be different if it was shit content on those blogs and the person is pulling that much money. But, the blog delivers great content and is probably in the top-50 blogs on Steemit. It's really good. But that doesn't mean any or our blogs can't be just as good. Like I said above, this thing is still in its infancy.
I still disagree with everything you write. Lets assume she is just a model and a "bigger" organization is writing and getting paid for her account, you don't have evidence of it yet. I will totally be a model like her too if i have good supporters like she does. Let's continue to assume that people write for her.. Do you know how 'millions' of people would rather be in her shoes, traveling the world and getting paid just to model? How many musicians agree that they have ghost writers? We are not in any position to start judging people! Let continue to assume she doesn't write anything and she gets paid little money. Do you know if that little money is helping to take care of her family? why write something that can destroy others when you don't have "any proof"?
You wrote "many steemit members frown on others who are here just for the money" My friend, thats not true :) 99% of the people on steemit are only here because of the money they can make from being on social media. Take the money out of steemit and I promise you that steemit will not grow again. Why get on steemit when you can write your stuff on facebook or post your videos on youtube? Please lets not be part of people who just want to destroy others. Think positive about others until they do otherwise..
What you just posted would have impact on her page if it went viral and you still don't have any solid proof yet.
Lastly, tell me one good thing you will gain from all of this if you were even 1% right?? Upvotes?? Pleeeeaase :)
I Upvote and Resteem only good contents. Where did you read that I am obliged to Up vote your content even when I don't support a single word you write?
Please give me evidence steem thinks we have to Upvote any post we comment on and I will totally give you my Upvote plus two of others :) Take care..
I happen to agree with everyting @yemmy4eva is saying here. It's not up to "us" to worry about what OTHERS are doing on Steemit; Especially when we do not know. For all we know her MUM does operate the drone; My mother is going on 70 years old and is way more technological than people her age; I learned a lot what I do on computers from her; she had one when I was a kid - again, before her peers; So I don't think it's Impossible that this woman has a mom, and possibly even a team of people that work with her. How much they earn, and what they do with it, is there business. The video you shared at the end; was super well done; People on YouTube make that kind of income for those kinda videos; Not sure why Steemit would be different; We should be CELEBRATING that someone is making that kind of money yere; as it's an indication of what is POSSIBLE for the rest of us. This hate here, is hate, no matter how you try to clean it up; Man, you can do better than this.
May be you are true.
then why does she admits that "ALL" work done on her account including coding, formatting is her whole and soul efforts even though she was always on the move?
May be, does she lying? or
Trying to take credit of her team?
It's funny how quickly you are called a hater for just wanting the truth and some honesty.
I see your point. But, dig if you will this picture (Prince lover here) ok, sorry for the digress. But let's imagine if the @sweetsssj account owner came out and said, "Ok. The girl in all our blogs is a paid model. Her name is So-in-So, and we have a professional photographer and photo editor to produce the pics. We also have a professional content writer (which is something I could totally do myself by the way, and would so take a job doing it; in fact, I think I'll make that my next Steemgig). Let's say this happened. Chances are that nobody would really care. They would still like the blog. Some people (like me) have not had the opportunity to travel places, so I enjoy reading the travel blogs. In fact, I'll be putting up some travel blogs myself. I'm in Kentucky, USA, and there are a lot of exciting tourist attractions that I could show and blog about.
I just don't think people would care that it is a produced blog by professionals. People upvote it because they like it and because they know that they can get some curation on it. People like to be entertained and they want to get paid. They don't care about that other stuff. They just don't.
You are a very very special person for all the effort you put in here. The girl is a really great girl and she did feel really bad about all that randompic did on her post and i can tell you that for a fact. China is censored when it comes to the internet and she does alot to help with that among other things. Just like @busy.org is creating an interface that is simliar to wechat, to appeal to china, where facebook and most popular web platforms are blocked. i am just leaving this comment to you, to show you how on the right track you been, even based on simple logic and human heart!
randompic talks of her pics and everything, yes, not like we can see his face. He took all these pictures of someone else that he says are too balling for regular use or for steemit and used it as his blog basically and he is earning for it, while defaming someone else without facts, all for nothing. this is the first time i am coming out on an issue like this and for the first time, i will come out in a full blown post. As for posts, ofcourse you can have some write on your behalf, proof reading or edit. do a steemgig for that and i can certainly find someone who can help. that is why you have posting keys. steemsports for instance has many editors but you already have your logic and ofcourse your human aspect intact.
Thanks for reaching out @surpassinggoogle. I was just voicing my views like all on the chat. Also, I am the one who can write, proofread and edit on someone's else's behalf. I do that professionally as a freelancer. I write, proofread and edit all of my own blog posts. But yeah, I appreciate your message.
Uh oh now don't mess with me about some Prince!
Everybody wanna take the stand
Mind your own mother****er, let a man be a man
Days of Wild
Sorry, I'm not cursing at you, just copying and pasting the lyrics. Prince was a master marketer and all for creative expression and being different and not conforming to what the masses think.
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@Ned is one of the founders of Steemit. He's one of the "Powers-that-Be". Like I said, you never know who you're talking about or who's watching. For all we now, he may be the one who is sponsoring her blog. But, if so, then so what? It's his platform. He can do what he wants.
As simple as A,B,C. Thank you alot for what happened here!
Excellent point and good investigating! I only followed for the opportunity to make easy SP by upvoting n resteeming. I'm going to unfollow now, dragging the rewards pool by promoting second hand content only acceptable if it's a link to your own content that you produced. Having a steemit management team for what was propotred to be an individual acct is wack af!
I actually totally agree with you. Specially with the fact that these photographs are not taken by here mum. Obviously these are professional photographs. I think someone is just using her photographs to earn money here. What do you think?
I think she is just the cutest little baby doll. She probably is a model. But, naw, she's paid big dollars for sure. I just don't see the problem with this blog. Somebody had a good idea to get in here and create a brand and it worked. It's the blockchain! Get a piece. I'm working on getting mine. Yall be trippin.
JUST have a life dude @ramdompic..just stay positive ,she's used more resources to make her blog nice and perfect..just used her as inspiration on whats shes doing..don't drag her down..just be have you own blog signature and make good motivation on yourself on how to express yourself by your blog and take note that every positive ways of perception in life to others it will reflect to you.
Yes and if it's so then we really need to report this user or atleast make aware the other steemit users that this is happening. I think we should not jump to conclusions so fast and we should keep a track on this person and it's Posts. We cannot let this happen on steemit.
Very true. There are people working day and night to produce their original and good work. We cannot let this happen.
*Note to self: Create Hot Asian Chick Sock Puppet Account.
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Totally what I've been thinking the whole time I've been reading this!
Yeah man, my thoughts exactly. I'll have to block her because I can't go through hardly any category without the spam of posts from her one account popping up back to back. And i'm sure it's no coincidence it's a hot Asian girl. The same type of shit you see on Twitch- all these cosplay fake gamer chicks raking in all the dough from the nerds that follow them just to see a little titty skin instead of true gamers.
"Titty skin"? Oh lawwwd! LOL!
andd that why everyone is going to block an flag you!
frst of alll u ddont even have a profile pic, it shows u dont are at all about steemit
second of alll, ur are fucking blaming her for being a "hot asian girl"
maybe you guys are all jist in love with asian women?
and now ur going off on a twitch gamer girl tyraide?
if women an make money online, thats not your busineess
also she is 100 percebt real, she does speak english, she has NO ccrew she has NO help from anyone but her motheer who takes the photos and ur a fckin loser for writing this and believing this trash post
My account is extremely new…Not the best excuse, but now that I have a profile picture of myself, does that make me more legit than you because of your ninja turtle looking thing? No, not really. I see where you’re coming from, but it’s kind of irrelevant..
Second of all, I’m not blaming her for being a hot Asian girl. I think you might have misunderstood what I’m implying. I’m simply saying that I have found the account in question somewhat suspicious in my relatively short time here, for the same type of reasons mentioned before. Then I drew a correlation between things I’ve seen in the past. That’s where Twitch comes in, just one similar example among many. It’s not at all rare to find people duping others with accounts using gorgeous women as bait.
And not to generalize too much, but if you take the kind of platform we’re using into consideration (on the cutting edge of the web, not far off from 4chan, reddit and the likes) I’d take my chances with a gorgeous Asian lady. Naturally I just thought of the large cosplay, anime, and overall loving support of the Asian culture typically found in these area’s of the web. However, as always, I could be wrong. Glad to hear you’re so 100% sure.
Not saying that I 100% believe her account is run by some “crew” of people, just saying it wouldn’t be the first time and I don’t see the problem with someone posing the question.. I’m simply drawing my own correlations and adding to the conversation as well. But anyway, have a great day.
You do realize that there are ppl on here that don't need to read your profanity while your runnin'. Only warning before I flag the next time I see it.
Looks like I need to hire some teenagers to start posting for me.
Wait, they'll probably just get better at Steemit than me and steal my account. Back to the drawing board.
You may be true. She looks too good on her photos. For those photos taken in sunny days, she had an intact make up and hair style in her photos which make me think she actually had a crew with her.
This is a kind of marketing. Some youtubers are also produced in this way and I am not mad at it.
Btw, for the videos,I guess the target audience are Chinese so her did not speak it English which is not a legit evidence to show if she can speak english or not.
So, who wants to put up pictures looking bad. I fix my hair and makeup and put on nice clothes for my pics and videos too. And if I was out blogging about a tourist attraction or something. I would stop and freshen up my make up and hair too. Why would somebody be filming or taking pics for a long shoot and just let the sun and wind melt their makeup and blow their hair all over their head? C'mon yall.
I actually muted her because the narcissism seemed a bit disingenuous. Your post actually makes perfect sense.
@randompic
You hit the nail straight on head.
Every time when i saw her post i wonder how can only she be in those pics? No friends, No family, at last.... not even one selfie with her photographer?
Recently i had some pics of her kittens claiming at her home. But no family around at home to share a place in the post?
You got the right point. If she is true at all her work alone travelling all the day. How can she find the time to write and format the post, selecting best photo, editing and posting on steemit. Also commenting after your comment?
And also planning her next travels.... All things while travelling??
If she really do all this. Truly we had a super woman here and i will be her hardcore fan of her time management skills.
Wow that was a lot to go through. I can safely say now that this author isn't genuine. that's pretty disheartening cause I liked the fact that she was able to do it all on her own. But after noticing a ramp up in posts, I myself was wondering, but shook it off. Now this section/ article. Makes complete sense. Bye @sweetsssj, (and crew) y'all got me for a little bit it's ok, but you should really come on out and tell the truth. Read the white paper. TYVM @randompic. Sorry you are at 4. Maybe you can get a shot with NED too to help get you back to a respectable number.
What really gets me though is that mob mentality. they didn't like what you said so you got silenced through beating up your reputation. thats what steemit is about? Is that it? Thats the message Steemit has to offer? Get away from Facebook so that we can judge you over here and really silence you by flagging you for questioning authenticity.
Good job @steemit you got a black eye in my opinion on this. Ridiculousness.
If randompic didn't post endless (hundreds) of defamatory posts attacking sweetssj then there would be nothing to downvote. Spamming another person's post with endless assaults and baseless defamatory comments (you can check this yourself) is elevated above what is considered acceptable. Not to mention it's just downright rude. If you are going to support this kind of user, then you are simply no different. You should get your own facts straight before jumping to conclusions.
Both Ned the CEO of Steemit and other top users like donkeypong have spoken (and even met)sweetsssj in person, clearly they spoke English. They certainly don't need to waste their time to state the obvious just because some troll decides to gather a bunch of other jealous immature kids to launch a witch hunt.
Steemit have got nothing to do with randompic's reputation lowering to 4. The only downvotes (which is the only way his reputation can go down) were to his excessive and baseless defamatory posts that were spammed across hundreds of other users comments. One post making the enquiry is quite enough, not 200.
I'm also resteeming it as I really think this needs to reach out to more and more people.
Yes and as I've already mentioned it is important. Moreover, I'm happy that this post is reaching more and more people and others are also realising that what some people are doing just to earn money. I just want that community should know what is going on here.
Random - I think it's always about money. That's just this world we live in - for better or for worse. Whether she's real or not doesn't matter - whoever she is, or the team behind her is (or him...could be hims) - is/are incredible marketers.
You hit the nail on the head about communism - though Steemit is clearly as capitalist as you get ;-)
But look at a lesson in all of this - this is the 2nd or 3rd time i've seen this in my feed now, so people are resteeming it. You clearly have some investigative - or at least instigative ;-) - talents...
Why not learn from this ms sweet jjjjj or whoever - and build up a brand around yourself? Probably under a new account since your rep has been so damaged.
You're always gonna look like the bad guy calling out people on the top. Unless you are an equally hot leggy blonde who challenges miss sweet J to a pillow fight !
Don't get angry, get creative.
See that's exactly why I don't believe Steemit was created for the common man :-/ I don't think many things are. Now I love this platform, I do - but remember the creators own something like 84% of all existing Steem.
That said - it certainly gives the 'common man' a higher chance to succeed then other platforms. But I think believing this was ever something where everyone has an equal chance is wishful thinking - as, since you pointed out, there is a hierarchy based 100% on monetary wealth.
hugs back.
She might be a model and getting paid only for pictures
Probably someone else controls the account
And chashes on made up stories
Yeah the pics seem to be like photo shoots someone must be helping her that's a lot of money every month
If she is real then she is a very successful woman
Otherwise people are following gosts
I think this deserves more attention.
First of all, of course, the implication of the situation. If it is indeed a team of professionals running it, then it deducts significantly from the concept of SteemIt being for the people - nobody can compete with a team of professionals that will build up popularity and power quickly. Power breeds more power, and what you have is the same hierarchy as you have in the real world - a chosen few on top, masses at the bottom.
This is, however, a very contentious issue. On the one hand we might be exposing something that SteemIt may want to combat; on the other hand, we could be hurting a truly talented person. I personally do not think she will ever come out with the truth until it is bare and obvious what she has done (if she has indeed done it).
As usual, tread carefully for your own good. I, however, appreciate your bringing this to light. Truth is the most important thing. I am a bit saddened to see that with so much views you got, you barely had any significant upvotes - meaning the big guys probably steer clear of this sensitive issue. I guess, you don't want to hurt a whale, don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. =)
I am not into pictures, but I like honest people ready to confront the norms in a polite fashion. Followed.
maybe we should investigate your blog and niit pick everything YOU do?
Would you like to get flagged to for spreading lies?
Thing is - people only THINK steemit is some decentralized platform that's all about real people. We can follow whoever we want, and create that reality for sure, but the creators and major stakeholders of Steem care about profits. They just want sign ups - authenticity...well that's a bonus, and an ideal a certain segment of the Steemit community has created (I like to think I'm part of that group, the authenticity fans).
People want entertainment too - but most of all they want money.
What happens if Ms sweet J is exposed? Do you think he/she/them will lose even 100 followers ? Probably not. The fact is she/he/them are skilled marketers - using pics of an incredibly beautiful young girl with a life most of us dream of - to fill some void.
Though (I'm just gonna go with her from now on for simplicity's sake lol) she's a good writer - I've read a few posts - I guarantee at good 75% of her male (and some female) followers are not there for her words.
It is suspicious
wtf its NOT suspiciious! this asshole @randompic is SIMPLY trying to profit off posting the popular iages of @sweetsssj ! this is PLAGARISM! hes just USINg her photos to get views because he dooenst have any content of his own!
hes JELOUS and hes focused in onher negativly and i had to flag everyone of his comments in her recent ppst because he kept spamming his fucking link to this shit post full of lies, and ow youre belliving his ies? so not fair
@justyy do NOT just make stupi comments like this, ur being so naiive i will defend @sweetsssj till the bitter end, an i will defend ALL my steemit whales who supported me and who I KNOW deseve EVERY fucking penny they MAKE here!
Proof!! PROOF?!?!! proof of WHAT? why ddont YOU PROOVE to ME that YOU arent cheating
its callled INNOCENT UNTILL PROVEN GUILTY
Seriously u need to apologize to her for r comment, dont evenget me started on this troll known as @randompic
Calm down, it is monday. :P
I actually dont' care and everyone has his (different) opinions, so don't judge me.
but please mind your language (you are quite rude)
ok
i think youre lying because she blocked you and doesnt reply to you and you shoouldpost the fucking reply here asshole, post a screenshot u fuckin liar
It doesn't pass the stink test .
Edit: I've talked to her we are all good. I just never see her elsewhere around here so was just more curious.
sorry but she does pass every test and u are too smart to fall for this assholes liees
@businesswri will aggree with me @sweetsssj is an AWESOME person who talks to HUNDREDS of us every week and u need to have some respect
u just hit 1000 foollowwers and u have some responsiility here to DISCERN
u cant just support some CRACKpot theory abot one of our TP Steemit users
u have NO right saying this man...an dont even get me sttarted on @randompic he hasno right making a dime off this post slandering a succesful steemit user who does nothing but help minowws and SUPPORTS the platform by KEEPING ALL her money as steempower!!
she could have cashed out and bought ethereum and made WAY more money!
but she chose to stay here and support YOU and ME and EVERYONE here!
Without people like @sweetsssj YOU WOULDNT HAVE SHIT! price of stee would be 10 cents and you wouldnt be making SHIt bro! if whales like her didnt fcking save steempower we wouldnt have a fucking platform or a potto piss in so stfu and apologize
Wrong bro re: the price of Steem. Nothing wrong with questioning things. There are a few things that should be answered. Hopefullly, future interviews will allow this that is all.
wrong?no its not wrong. price of steem stays high becaue of people buying steempower PERIOD
also, why dont you have a profile pic? it makes you look like u dnt care much about steemit if u nver put the effort in to make a profile pic!
trst me, u wil get alot more upvotes if u just add a profile pic!
Who cares if I don't have a profile picture either do you ? what are you my dad ?
yes son and yourve got a bad attitude! now go to your room!
Youre on a time Out mister!
We have Profile Pics in THIS house!
LOL! you are crazy can't tell if your serious or what!
She has nothing to do with the Steem Price going up and down. That is all I was saying. But, I'm not here to pick on anyone, this goes for anyone posting on our platform. If there are questoins, people can ask them. That is all.
edit: I've talked to her we are all good.
she does have alot to do with price of steem going up and down
if she powered down and sold all her steem at once, price of steem would go down noticably
ya u are all good, iits just someone else...
but son u should have a profile pic, in this amily we respect avatars!
and as your father I must tell you that you were adopted
I've been on Steemit for about 2 weeks now, and after of few hours browsing the site, came across those beautifull swetsssj blogs... I thought exactly what you say here about it. And because people are too naive to figure that out for themselves, maybe more and more of these made up great stemians will be flooding this space, and grab most of the $. I'm not sure it's good for the future of this platform... I like the idea of Steemit, but as always, greed drives the humans.
I don't see the logic of being able to vote for one's own comments or blogs either...
I don't think it is about people being naive. It is more about people upvoting what's trending to earn extra bucks. If you are here for a bit of cash, you should be interested in that audience, too - the people who won't read your texts but scroll through the pics and give you an upvote because it looks promising or you're known to bring in cash. =)
Not to say it is a bad thing, but it is part of the way SteemIt seems to work, so if you're a good business person, you shouldn't ignore that clientèle. =)
Thinking about it, maybe you're right, they are not so naive, just greedy. And who can blame them when the system makes it possible... After all, I haven't noticed any other "professional" blogs like this one so far. At least it caused an interesting discussion.
@reggaemuffin got you a 2.51% @minnowbooster upvote, nice!
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Jealousy also drives the Humans - We can't just leave people alone. We see someone else being happy and humans gotta go get in their business and ruin their fun. Misery Loves Company
EXACTLY @zhelto and @ranompic coould not be more jealous and envious!
@random pic in a few fuckinweeks ago and now he acts like he represents the fucking whoel community
its pathetic! U fuckn focus in one the ONE persondoing wel that you ven know about!
why dont u go bother some Youtubeers who explot their fans and never give a diime to fans! at least @sweetsssj fucking helps US make money too!
AND i am not done, oh no! im not done at lal! she fuckin deserves EVERY PENNy she makes
do u even understand where the money coms from for ur fucking shitt posts??!?!
IT COOMES FROOM WHALESIKE @sweetsssj
BECAUSE OF WHALES LIKE HER WHO LOCK THEIR STEEM IN STEEMPOWER,,, THE PRICE OF STEEM STAYS HIGh
BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DONT GET HOW THI WORK
U DONT UNDERSTAND THAT AN EARLY ADOPTER DESERVES EVERY DIME THEY GET
STEEMIT WHALES LIKE HER COULD hAVE CASHED OUT AND JUST BOUGHT ETHEREUM AnD WMADE WAAAAAY MORE NEy
NO INSTEAD THEY CHOSE TO LLOOOOOSE MILLIONS OF OLLARS JUST TO SUPPORT YOUA ND ME AND YOU FUCKIN INGRATEFUL LOSERS
I was gonna look up a suitale hip hop related GIF
so i searched youtube and i got distracted
hey check it out
i found a king of the hill livestream LIVE lol
bro did u even know we could have livestreams?
its just some random youtuber streaming pirated king of the hill lol
we should be doing this
lol, yes absolutely everything is livestreaming over YouTube; I watched the #NBADraft live from work, via youTube just the other week :) lol
Man, I'm over here with tears literally streaming down the left side of my face, with laughter...
I'm getting into all the sordid details of this debate, getting ready to weigh in, then THIS? WTF?
It's just so random :) Someone should make this into a meme or something - suspending online conflict with totally unrelated search results...
yes u can also solve any conflict on steemit by sending someone SBD as an olive bracnh! Peace treaty!
we can alo just watch cartooons!!! hahaha
ddid u know u can have livestreams inside steemit like this?!?!
anyway beckky u shold enale a profile pic! u need an avatar photo! t will help u!
DID you see the clip of Elon Musk on Colbert Late Show and colbert asks him how to terraform Mars, and Elon musk says "the slow way or the fast way" and Musk says "the fast way is you drop thermonuclear weapons over the polar ice caps of mars " (to melt them and create liquid oceans on mars) and how hes a super villain??
hahaha its SO amaziing that we have personalities like him who we finally adire and give respect they deserve and hearing someone talking about using nuclear weapons to do GOOD rather than evil!!!!
Just like how we can use nuclear weapons to propel spacecraft through space, we can use them to melt icecaps on mars ! duno if it would irradiate the water tho
eventually we can use focused lasers to melt the icecaps and solar powered and geothermal heat weapon to blast the ice
And after all, most people have very boring life, but are not prepared to really do something about it. So they just dream of a better life and blogs like sweetsssj are perfect to fill their daily needs ! ;-)
Exactly. That blog may cheer somebody up. It may have stopped somebody from killing themselves. Maybe it gives somebody hope. I know it gives off an uplifting vibe. There's too many bad vibes in the universe. I even blogged about that the other day -- vibes that people give off.
You dont know what steemit is about
steemit is about making money
youre a fucking loser who cant stand seeing others makemoney easily and you get mad and try to bring the down and MAK MONEY OFF POSTING THEIR POTOS instead of actually trying to MATCH their success
@ randompic ...so whats your big point on it...yes we have your concern..but thats not the game here its strategy go hired your own team to make your blog more colorful and success..love your blog and be inspired on users who are very successful.hope you got my point sir..
I don't see anything wrong with it. I don't find it interesting so I don't follow, someone else may like it. It's their voting power why should I care who they like?
I think many asians like their idols or whatever. It seems naive to me but who am I to judge.
I'm not going to argue. I just wonder how can we know if someone is honest and transparent, by what standards are we operating in order to judge?
So much comedy going here and i will take time to come talk with @randompic, at least let's see your face. Many steemians have seen her life. So be ready for my interviews soon, let's get you to at least show your face! Sorry @modnar, wrong thread, i just wanted to see the convo
Who ever created this Chinese Barbie blog its just a brilliant masterminded
idea very profesional and thats what Steemit peolple want to see and upvote for
its that simple many people like perfect szenario and entertainment
you cant do nothing about it !
SteemOn bro
you joking there is no honesty in this world and the internet
is a fake reality those who have the know how and the money
make the race and if nobody breaks the rules of steemit than there are
no negative consequences for that person or marketing companys
SteemON
boy i hope you right ! and im glad that there are still
some fellow human who live according to high moral
ethical values! Thank you for being one of them :)
Cheers Buddy
I want to come through the screen and hug you. It's an uphill battle my friend...one that usually backfires. Channel the anger into something else. Believe me - I've been in your shoes and getting angry at the unfairness of the world just doesn't change anything!
Well call her dishonest, call her a cheat. Clearly, she and her team found a way to exploit the gap in Steemit. Rather than cry foul, think about how you up your game? If she can hire a team to do the work for her, perhaps you can too. Nobody is stopping you from doing anything.
If financial rewards is your main goal, then go out there and grab votes by hook or by crook.
Does hiring a team makes it dishonest to profit from Steemit? Think about it, any profits that sweetsssj makes have to be split amongst the writers, the photographers, the editors, and the translators.
In order to keep churning out post after post of interesting content to garner upvotes, money has to be invested into flights tickets, makeup, and other miscellaneous activity.
So what you are trying to say is that the overall work that goes into production is easy? Do they actually make a profit from all the work that goes into each blog post?
The world doesn't care about how you do something. The world cares about results and results only.
You are just being absolutely self-centered and selfish with such a statement:
If you truly want an honest job, go work a 9-to-5 and pay your taxes.
So why do you think she uses steemit to travel. There are rich people on steemit! And she does speak English and mind you #cn or China so to speak is censored as she place a huge role in getting steemit on those terrains and i doubt you know @busy.org but you may already know, plays a huge role on having steemit enter china, by means of an interface that resembles wechat. i will just leave this few words and if i am out for it, i will do a full blown post to explain steemit to you on this case. If you were here earlier on steemit, you will definitely not do this post but you got on steemit at the best times ever. Mind you in the past, just a few months back, steem was 7 cents and earning huge amounts is more rampant now with steem/sbd at a high.
u invested what $70 into steem
u didnt invst anything into steem u fuckin liar
an @sweetsssj uses her own money to travel she hasnt ever vashed out her steempower GO LOOk at her fucking WALLET u fuckin asshole!
this pisses me off because its ALL there for u to see!!
if u did any fucking due dilligance you would SEE that shes saved ALL of her steem from day 1 and she barely EVER cashes out and has kept ALl her mney in crypto like AMny of us and youre a fucing MOROnbecause u DIDNt do the research whenit was ALL there READY to be looked at!
but u took the EASy route! u fucking actedlike u COULDNt find out her history wenu COUCL and u just MADE UP A LIE to GET VIEWS
soorry but im considering getting a friend to flag your post and bring it downto $0
this post violates our community guidelines
I myself can bring your ppst down $2 if i let my voting power charge back up,
ill give you time to issue a retraction
u cant go around making money postng @sweetsssj photos like they are your own....and then make $4 off lies about her .....
i wont tolerate it and you ned to learn your lesson
ahahahahahah report to who?
assault is a physical action
For anyone reading this, I am simply showing u how it feels to be attacked in ur own pst LOL
dude go ahead "report" me hahaha
u ave no steempower and ur votes dont do shit
learn ur place
and learn not to attackk @sweetsssj
Your ppst was against community uidelines, u were lying about @sweetsssj
and sorry the entire steemit community is going to be on my side
now u can have a second chance
u must apologize tho and dont even bother removing ur comments on her ppst thyev all been flagged so ust apologize to her
I don't want to hire a team though and I'm sure most others don't either. I like to do my own work and be creative with my own ideas@ randompic...yess random you do said by yourself..
the difference of you two..she's have all the resources to make her blog more productive and more addictive to the eyes of the public dude..make your own too thats the secret to be success..don't make people down bcoz she's very success on her blog and earn more rewards and money..because she invest capitalism on her places of travels...please stop dragging her down dude..have a life..make your own life happy don't be jealous on her...she love her work and blog too.. she have team also i guest to have some photo shoot. you cant make a selfie every time to make a photoshoot..so please don't make yourself a famous by dragging someone down..have good attitude dude..
To solve this mystery, we demand a selfie of sweetsssj with Mum, if possible taken by the drone piloted by Mum ! ;-)
Don't forget about the pig!
This video is great! Very entertaining, even though she is just doing basic dancing. I think the @sweetsssj blog is genius. I don't see the problem.
Ok, so like I said, if she were to say that she was a model for the blog and if the owners confirmed that, then what. What would it change. And would that really make you feel better about the blog being on here? Look at it this way, take Facebook for example. You can pull up an individual page and a commercial page if you wish. This is the same concept. They haven't come right out and said it, but it certainly looks like this is a paid model with a professional team. But, ok. That's fine. Like I said in my first comment, you have a good idea yourself. Get it poppin and you can make a lot of money too. Let other blogs that make a lot of money spark your own ideas. It's time to let this go.
He is one of the founders and CEO of Steemit, indeed !
Whether she is on her own or some one is help her, IT DOES NOT MATTERS to me at all. As long as she is a real person and she is blogging her own photo. Steemit is just like facebook or anyother social media, it never requires that one has to work 100% on his/her own post, as long as he/she owns the copyright. Anyways, I totally agree with @amarie , anyone could use his/her time for more important things such as learning from successful people. Good luck.
I see nothing wrong with you uncovering or questioning this person, you have the right to do so, in real life many people would perhaps call what she is doing fraudulent.
As if meeting the CEO of Steemit wasn't enough, you have failed to see the source of this debate which began with a vicious assault of her posts with hundreds of spam links and countless baseless defamatory posts. Discussion is welcome, but this user launched a witch hunt which is not welcome.
I also don't care about whether she's produced or not. All the top content makers on the internet have teams of people working to produce content.
Congratulations @randompic!
Your post was mentioned in my hit parade in the following category:
Congratulations @randompic!
Your post was mentioned in my hit parade in the following category:
Congratulations @randompic!
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I think the whole idea of being able to downvote is enabling 'censorship' of posts on Steemit. The idea that someone is more successful than oneself, even if you believe that the account is a cleverly managed team of workers is no reason to attack the creator of posts, or comments.
Steemit is supposed to be open to all, not just a select viewpoint that many agree on to the exclusion of other viewpoints. Content will fly or fail based upon upvotes alone, there is no need to downvote, the ability to downvote is I believe a mistake and is used far to easily to punish and to retaliate creating a vicious circle where no-one really wins it consumes time and energy better spent being creative.
Please don't flag me just because I present a view that is not unanimous.
Where does @randompic stand on BOTS on Steemit, I do believe there are a great many of them. Another question, multiple accounts upvoting themselves and the other accounts maintained by the same person...is that something that is OK or not OK to you?
One one hand it would seem to be deceptive and greedy, on the other it is people using skills and creativity to game the system so to speak, is that OK? I don't know how @sweetsssj got started, but I assume she was small and got popular and reinvested in STEEM which got her even more popular and she has grown from that....as anyone can given time and good content.
I've upvoted a few comments here and yes, even the OP - not because I necessarily agree with the OP (see below) but because it has caused a lot of interesting discussion and that's one thing I like in a community. Sure there are some inflammatory and pointless comments, but also quite a bit of thoughtful navel gazing about many Steemit topics.
Firstly IMO down voting although an attractive idea at first is often abused in ways that make it not an idle way to enhance surfacing of quality content (by hiding poor content). Punishing what is considered trolling by flagging is just bullying. IMO trolls should just be ignored - by OPS and commenters. This is almost like giving them a hell ban.
Granted I've only occasionally looked at sweetssj's posts (it's really not my thing but it's hard to ignore them and occasionally she is in some place interesting to me - which is exactly the point) but I haven't noticed any of random's comments either - perhaps because they are always lurking at the bottom below better comments or are now hidden due to his negative reputation. Either way, I feel like trolls should just be ignored.
As for the authenticity of sweetssj's posts. Well to me it is clear that someone is visiting all these places and posting all those words but ultimately I don't really care - so much of pop-culture is all about perceived images. How many pop, movie and sports-stars are actually unpleasant jerks in real life? My partner used to work in that biz with both pop and movie stars and she'll tell you - quite a few actually. But does that mean fans are being deceived and cheated, should they stop being fans and seeing movies, videos or sports games?
I personally think even if sweetssj started posting some photos of a production crew with pro-lighting set ups, make up artist, a rack of outfits on each shoot I'm sure she'd still get lots of upvotes and maintain a big following. She could also go the other way of some YouTube stars that I know and follow - arrange some meetups or pose for photos with fans. However meeting random strangers from the Internet is stressful and could even be dangerous so I don't think anyone should be expected to do that.
However I think it just boils down to a question of what the premise of Steemit is - isn't it simply rewarding popular content? Who are we to police what is popular? Isn't the OP effectively saying "I don't like what you like so you can't have it"? That sounds worse than censorship of posts to me, it's actually censoring what other people think.
As to the authenticity of Sweet's posts - I think it is entirely possibly someone is doing this on their own. I have a friend who's job takes her to travel all around the world for short amounts of time doing training classes. She gets to rack up lots of miles and her husband is an airline pilot as well so even on vacation she is able to travel all over the world - she's in Mongolia right now. Her travel guide and blog is extensive - was mostly written up in a few months of evenings of free time and has lots of amazing, cool and fun photos. She doesn't have a production team, has friends or her husband take photos and does all her own writing. However she's not a young "hot" Asian and there are no gratuitous swimsuit photos - it's not about her or images of her anyway, it's about being a travel guide to help others visiting places where she has been.
But sweet's posts I think are part fantasy, part "art", and part travel guide. My advice - up-vote if they please you, move on if they do not interest you, mute her if they irritate or offend you. And if you must post repetitively about things from a user you don't like... consider just posting them on your own blog only (like the post above here) with a link to what bothers you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but incessantly ramming them down other people's throats will just annoy them to the point where you are labelled a troll and will suffer whatever consequences a platform offers for retribution. As I pointed out above I don't personally think the ability to use flagging to counter trolling is really a great idea - even if well applied in one case it is wide open to abuse in many others.
Edit: one thing I forgot to mention - I think it is a valid point to criticize someone who doesn't upvote any comments - assuming there are some good ones that aren't just follow and vote begging. I can't vouch for the authenticity of the observation about Sweet's posts in particular, but really folks - tending to your comments is a great way to build a following, help others and help yourself. But please criticize in a constructive way - no need to abuse someone for not doing it, maybe they are noobs like I was a month ago and haven't figure out how things work, what the economics are and even how to easily see when they have comments. I doubt that applied to Sweetssj in recent times but if they start upvoting after you point out they weren't that's to be congratulated - and to be seen as an open opportunity to make great comments on posts.
Remember folks: share and enjoy!
For people like travel blogs, you can also read my latest blog: https://steemit.com/cn/@justyy/travel-photography-south-end-on-sea
This is totally different blogging style, but I believe it is more real, because my photography skills need to be improved... HAHA
It is steem link