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RE: Stop Whining, Here Are Way To Improve Your Earnings On Steemit

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@charles1, as usual an excellent post by you on a burning issue here with minnows.
Buying SP to improve on voting power is not possible by many minnows as they may not have enough money with them to do so. I will discount that factor with the minnows ( may be a small fraction of the minnows will have the resources to Buy SP, especially from the developing countries. )
I think steemit is a very long walk to make it big
Except for the extremely gifted or talented, for an average person with little or no skill, without much to share or showcase ( that is the case with majority steemians a here) it is an extremely uphill task. I call all these people "Accidental bloggers". They are not here because they are bloggers or have any special skill or talent, but because they see an opportunity here in steemit.
This is one of the biggest positive aspect of steemit. Bringing out creativity, building one into an effective blogger or photographer or Blogger from a nobody is something no blogging platform could ever manage. Earlier elsewhere all the platforms were meant for experts or proficient bloggers and that has changed now. But then these guys have a long way to go.
As you rightly said, first advise would be "Forget looking at the $ payout on blog every 5 minute after posting 😊. That may demoralise you more than anything.
Make it a point to post at least once a day, Don't miss out.
Comment on atleast 50 posts every day. Read posts fully and post meaningful comments, not single liners. Comments will get you visibility if your posts fail to do so. And they will earn you some $$$ too.
Minnows have 10 upvote per day. Unless you have a slider, your voting should be restricted to only say 8 or 9 upvote per day ( remaining 1-2 vote keep for upvoting yourself on your daily post)
Keep your blog size betwn 800- 1500 words longer blogs will loose attention span. Shorter blogs does not get much upvote (unless it is a photograph)
There are thousands of interesting stuffs out there. One should never be short of any subject or creativity. There is enough and more only if one were to look out.
I have stopped posting since a week as my portable hard disc with 500 GB of photos n data (5 years of professional work data n records)has crashed and I am trying to retrieve my data through professionals. So my focus has changed for the moment. I should be writing regularly as soon as my issues are sorted out.
So guys simple mantra. An apple a day keeps the doctor away. A blog on steemit everyday makes $$$ slowly and steadily all the way. 😊👍

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This is a very good comment and wise indeed. I agree. Steem can be earned here through good posts , upvotes and comments after which most of it should be powered up -unless there is need to take some cash. Good luck and I wish you more success

Thanks for the advice. In response to, "remaining 1-2 vote keep for upvoting yourself..."
Just an awareness - people are making bots that downvote self upvotes.

@live2love, bots are not necessary. One can just uncheck the self vote box on the bottom right of the blog while posting.

I don't find any problem if a minnow, self votes say $0.003 or $0.005 to himself while posting a blog. This way they can get something showing up for their blog. I am not saying you should upvote yourself when your single vote is worth say $25 or $50.
If you put say 5 or 6 hours time (whatever time) and effort in creating a blog, you deserve atleast a $0.003 or $0.005 as a self gratifying self payment. It actually breaks the ice and many times set the ball rolling.
I have not heard of any bot created to down vote a self vote. Please give me the link to the same. I don't think it is anybody's business to down vote a self vote.
Are you by any chance saying self voting a comment?. That is unethical and downright wrong. But if you post 1 blog per day and give yourself say $0.003 for your effort, why would any one down vote the blog.
Down vote or flagging down cannot be used for frivolous matters.
There are already upvoting sites for free (steemvoter) and for $ (like randowhale and others). If one can pay to get an upvote then upvoting a tiny amount to yourself is a lesser sin.
Instead, steemit can simply remove the tiny check box near the blog right bottom and get over with this self voting thingy altogether. Why have a bot for doing all these stuffs.
I would like to reiterate something here. steemit itself is giving an option to self upvote ones blog. So creating a bot is like going against the website principles itself. I don't see it happening that way.

Just an update here.
I just saw a whale posted a blog just a while ago. His 100% vote is worth $16+. After a while now he has some double digits upvote,but his payout is around $17. That means virtually the payout is coming from his own single upvote. If he didn't do a self vote,his payout would be $1 or $2 with double digit upvote from others. So here you see, a self vote is creating an updraft for this gentleman which is good. People who have worked hard for a long time and built reputation and SP over a very long time can afford to that. In fact most of the heavy weights are doing it all over in steemit.
So do you still think any bot has the courage to take on the whales here on this self upvoting matter?
Anyway please share here the bot details that you were referring to, above. Thanks.

I'm so glad I saw your comment. I have been trying for 20-30 comments a day and have seen a recommendation for 100! Your 50 idea seems hard but I'll keep working on it.

I did back down to 1-2 posts a day since they are so difficult to create. I'm not trying for 4!

My question to you is about upvoting your own posts. Can you tell your motivation? I've seen people slam others for doing it and I stopped when the default option changed. I heard of the downvote bots too, but they are for people way bigger than me. I think 1000 steem is the limit before you get dinged.

But I really don't know the arguments for or against upvoting yourself. Thanks for all your good advice!

@fitinfun, just a few minutes ago, I came across this blog by a whale (atleast he is a dolphin, if not a whale, I am not sure).
https://steemit.com/selfvoting/@neoxian/self-voting-policy-1-3-to-me-max-and-2-3-rds-for-everyone-else

And neoxian has over 106,000 SP and each of upvote is worth close to $20.
So if he has this 1/3 self voting policy, that itself explains it all.

Please read the blog, he clarifies a few things.

Don't bother much my friend, 2 post per day means 2 self upvote per day out of 10. (Once you get a slider for upvoting in %age of each vote you get to share each upvote over multiple blogs . Then you can upvote any number of blogs by upvoting a small percentage of one full upvote....But for that you need to accumulate some significant no. of SP (to get slider )).
So it is fine 2 self upvote don't harm anyone.
But as I said above, DO NOT UPVOTE your own comment or reply in any blog (either your blog or somebody else's). Self upvoting a comment/reply is unethical and wrong.
But self upvoting your own blog is just about within the realms of ethics because you spent lot of time n effort in creating that blog and a teeny weeny bit of $ in self payment is quite gratifying too and also gets a push so that others take interest and read your blog. It's bit of self gratification and marketing too.
I actually stopped doing that for a while and my blog payment showed $ 0.00 for a long time. It actually demotivated me a lot. So I restarted self voting (only 1 blog per day and rest 9 for other worthy blogs out there). Seeing that small $$ on my payment tab made a whale of good to my self esteem and motivation.

So just go ahead and do it till you get some good traction and following here. Then you take a call. I would say once you reach a reputation of say 60 or above, take a pause and relook at this self voting thingy. Till then you need to promote yourself as much as possible. So go ahead. Don't feel guilty. Even dolphins n whales do it. We all are after all insignificant minnows. Yet !!

That was truly eye-opening. I resteemed it and upvoted :) BTW - I already follow that guy and he's one of the big ones that helps little ones often. Def a good steemer.

Thank you so much for sending me that way. Very interesting and hopefully more big people get it if the self-feeding is a big issue here.

One key thing it explains to me (a broke person) is that people are buying their way to power instantaneously. That puts a whole new spin on everything. I did not know this because I just didn't. The thought had not even occurred to me for whatever reason. (Brain overload)

Thank you again for helping.

For some reason the second part of your reply was hidden. Thank you - I get it about the upvoting on my posts and I'll go back to doing it. That makes total sense and should be something noobs turn on when they get here. I need all the motivation I can get!

I would never upvote my own comment. Never thought of that at all.

@fitinfun, I just upvoted one of your reply above.
Well I just went through your profile. I had to dig deep n long to see your post. You are over resteeming and over upvoting.
Please restrict your upvote to 10 or less every day. More upvote dilute your voting power and finally it means nothing just $0.0 . So if your upvote has to be meaningful please restrict it to 10 or less daily.
Then please do not over resteem. You please visit my profile page and check. You will see my blogs and get to know a bit of me in an instant by my subject. Bcoz I don't resteem. But I tried to check your posts. It is very hard to find one. It is somewhere deep down.
Please understand that you are here to promote your blogs first, then resteem other good blogs. Your blogs should get visibility. That is not happening.
Keep your profile page as clutter free as possible. Resteem only really very very good blogs and not everything that you come across. Keep a limit for resteeming per day too. Keep it less. Get inspired by those blogs, but keep the focus on your blogs. If you want to grow, then you need to focus on your work more and make it more visible.
Everything that you do on this platform can either help you or hold your progress back. You need to diligently think and take every step.
I have written a blog called from resteem to maxsteem. Check my profile page and Please read it. That's a beautiful round about instead of over resteeming.

I will definitely do that and see what you are doing. I really value your help and opinion.

I was usually resteeming two for one as well as noob posts to help me, but in the last couple of days - I had some personal tragedy and did not post at all. My head is not here but I thought I should still do something.

I'm keeping my power between 75%-95% at all times now and all that resteeming did not take me below.

Also - I use fitinfun as my 5th tag on all posts to be able to find myself here. I saw the trouble you mention in the feed and I thought my tag would help that problem. But I definitely am going to your feed right now. Thank you for the upvote :)