Voting analysis: Is @curie still the best community support account?

in #utopian-io6 years ago (edited)

This is an analysis of the voting habits of @utopian-io, @dtube, and @curie over the last 3 months.

The aim of this analysis is to compare the voting 'styles' of the above accounts to find out more information with regards to:

  • Voted Steem account reputation - 7/30/90 days
  • Unique author coverage
  • Popular author vote counts

Each of the above will be analysed over a 7, 30, and 90 period, with an overall analysis summary to conclude.

Contents

  1. Introduction
  2. Votes by Steem account reputation
  3. Unique author votes
  4. Vote counts - popular authors
  5. Summary analysis
  6. Tools and queries used to gather data and compile this report


title.png


1. Introduction

The 3 accounts analysed in this report are @dtube, @curie, @utopian-io. I have chosen to compare these accounts to try and guage:

  • If there is a best account/application to aim your time at, depending on your reputation
  • If these accounts are supporting many users by spreading their vote / loyal to their contributors
  • If it is possible to frequently be supported by any of these accounts

@utopian-io

@utopian-io is the open source project for open source projects, housed on the Steem Blockchain. @utopian-io joined the Steem Blockchain in September 2017 and holds over 3.6 million Steem power through delegations from its kind sponsors.

@curie

Curie is a meritocratic, voluntary organization which supports the development and growth of new and existing authors on the Steem blockchain. source

@curie joined in September 2016 and has 115,000 Steem Power. However, @curie has a long voting trail that include one of the largest 'user' accounts on the Steem Blockchain.

@dtube

@dtube is a decentralised video sharing platform and is built on the Steem Blockchain. Clear comparisions can be made with YouTube, both in name and content. @dtube currently holds just over 1 million Steem Power through delegations.


Each of these accounts (and trails) can provide a sizable vote to content deemed worthy by their curation teams/moderators. Which accounts do they vote for? How many votes do they give out? Do we have to be a popular author to get a vote? Perhaps the numbers can provide the answers.


2. Votes by Steem account reputation

7 day data

The following chart show the votes cast by each account over the previous 7 days.

@utopian-io

image.png

@utopian-io has cast a total of 2212 votes over accounts which average at a reputation of 52.97.

@dtube

image.png

@dtube has cast a total of 558 votes over accounts which average at a reputation of 53.31.

@curie

image.png

@curie has cast a total of 981 votes over accounts which average at a reputation of 52.93.

Whilst @utopian-io has cast the most votes, it is @curie that has voted for the lowest average reputation. @dtube has cast 41 votes for a reputation of 70 or above, whilst @utopian and @curie have voted only once each for an account with 70+ reputation.


30 day data

The following chart show the votes cast by each account over the previous 30 days.

@utopian-io

image.png

@dtube

image.png

@curie

image.png

Summary

The data above has been compiled to include the 90 day voting totals and reputation average and listed in the following table.

image.png

Across each of the time frames analysed, @utopian-io casts the most votes but it is @curie that supports the lowest average reputation.

Over the past 90 days, @dtube has cast over 150 votes to accounts with a reputation of 70 or higher.

From this data, we could suggest that for accounts with a lower reputation have a greater chance of success by posting blog content on Steemit (busy.org and others), and utopian-io. And accounts with a higher reputation could be more likely to succeed by posting video content on dtube.


3. Unique author votes

By looking at the number of votes for unique authors, it is possible to gauge which account is supporting the widest set of users.

image.png

From the table above, we can see that over the 7 day period it is @utopian-io that casts votes to the widest set of different accounts. However, when we look at the 30 and 90 days totals, it is @curie that has reached the widest set of unique authors.

It is worth stating here that data should be taken with caution as @curie has the breadth of the Steem Blockchain accounts to target, where as @utopian-io and @dtube are almost exclusively only voting on content posted to their applications.

It is likely the case that there is a smaller subset of authors posting to @utopian-io and @dtube and so the number of unique authors voted for is lower than @curie.

If we compare @utopian-io against @dtube, we can see that there are about 300 more unique votes cast by utopian-io in each time frame analysed. It would be interesting to see if this figure changes in future.


4. Vote counts - popular authors

In this section, we look at the vote counts for the top authors by the 3 accounts in this analysis.

7 day top author vote count

image.png

In the past 7 days, we can see that @curie votes on average, 7 times for the top authors receiving a vote. This votes are most likely to be 'smaller' votes for budding new authors that have been spotted by the curation team.

Both @dtube and @utopian-io show that it is possible to pick up a vote more than once per day, with the top two @utopian-io authors receiving an average of over 3 votes each day over the last 7 days.

30 day top author vote count

image.png

90 day top author vote count

image.png

For both the 30 and 90 days time frames assessed, the trend continues with @curie voting once each day for the top 20 accounts receiving a vote.

The top 2 @utopian-io accounts have received an average of 2 votes a day for the past 90 days, and one account submitting to @dtube has also almost reached an average of 2 votes in each of the past 90 days.

From these figures, we can say that @curie is again spreading the vote to a wider selection of accounts.

As above, it's likely that this figure is due to a wider available audience to vote for.

The data also shows that their is potentially no limit to the number of votes that can be given to a particular author by both @utopian-io and @dtube.


5. Summary analysis

With regards to @dtube, it is reasonable to suggest that with the highest average reputation votes, and larger number of votes to accounts with 70 and above reputation, this account has a slight bias to more 'well established' authors. It also seems likely that once you have received that first vote, you could well be followed/voted further.

@utopian-io is the clear leader in the total number of votes issued. We can also see that @utopian-io will vote for an author as often as they submit approved content. Will only a few votes for reputation above 70, @utopian-io votes a lot for newer authors.

@curie has the lowest reputation average across all 3 time frames. This shows a clear willingness to support new authors. With over 3000 unique author votes in the past 90 days, @curie also supports the widest selection of authors - this is complimented by the general average of 1 vote each day for each author in the top 20 vote total for each time frame.


From this analysis, I would suggest that newer authors might be best contributing content via Steemit (busy.org etc.) and @utopian-io. Whilst more established accounts, could perhaps look to @dtube, if they are willing to submit video content.

However, if the content is up to the desired quality, it is very possible for any author to receive a votee from @utopian-io, @dtube, or @curie.

A future analysis could be done based on the above, but with the inclusion of more 'community accounts/applications' and with an inclusion of the number of followers that the accounts receiving votes have.


6. Tools used to gather this data and compile report

The data is sourced from SteemSQL - A publicly available SQL database with all the blockchain data held within (Data is normally 1/2 hours delayed from live)

The SQL queries to extra to the data have been produced in both SQL Server Personal Edition and LINQPAD 5.

Code examples:

Popular authors - 7 days

image.png

Distinct authors - 7 days

image.png

Vote count - 7 days

image.png

The charts used to present the data were produced using MS Excel.


This data was compiled on the 2nd February 2018 at 11:00 pm (UCT+4)

I am part of a Steemit Business Intelligence community. We all post under the tag #blockchainbi. If you have analysis you would like to be carried out on utopian-io/Steem data, please do contact me or any of the #blockchainbi team and we will do our best to help you.



Thanks

Asher @abh12345



Posted on Utopian.io - Rewarding Open Source Contributors

Sort:  

Nice stats and very detailed post as usual.

However, there are several errors in the information you provide:

Data is normally 1/2 hours delayed from live

Data from SteemSQL are usually few seconds away from the blockchain. Under heavy load, it can increase to minutes, but rarely more than 5 minutes

The SQL queries to extract the data

In all your queries, you use the GETDATE() function, but you have to use the GETUTCDATE(). because all datetime values in the blockchain are UTC based!

Therefore, except if the computer you use sits in an area which timezone match UTC, you should consider the information you provided as erroneous.

Thanks @arcange!

I wasn't aware of how close to live SteemSQL is, that's great!

Whilst I was originally UTC, I'm now UTC +4 and so I will use this function in future.

Thank you very much for this information!

every project has its predefined purpose and @curie is meant to focus on new and unrecognized steemians. great report !

Thank you @bitrocker2020!

@curie has, and is still doing a grand job as far as this analysis goes, reaching out to support easily the widest subset of Steem accounts compared to the others. Cheers!

Hey man! Nice analysis, utopian.io it's a great platform for new authors to build their SP. For normal blog posts busy.org is nice too, I always receive a vote when posting from there. I mean I think without Curie, Utopian, Busy, Dtube and others, steem would be less attractive to newcomers. Good to have that analysis, thanks !

Hey!

Yes you are right. Becoming a part of one of these 'communities' is excellent for both new and existing accounts as attracting regular votes is is a great way to retain users.

Thanks!

Good analysis. Of course, all of these initiatives are great (and obviously im biased towards one of them). My only comment on one of the three is with DTube. As you kind of alluded to, it does seem that some people who are producing content of "less than brilliant quality" do seem to get repeatedly upvoted whereas a lot of quality content on there goes un-noticed. But then, that is the same all over steem. Hopefully this will change as the platform grows and more great content providers appear on it.

Cheers!

Yeah I think @dtube is the account with the most bias, and in time utopian-io will find itself voting higher repped accounts. @curie, I think, might keep the lower rep averages as it continues to try and find the undiscovered talent.

Thanks!

Great analysis @abh12345, I only realised earlier that I haven't been following you. I was wondering why I wasn't seeing your posts in my feeds. I hope your keeping well.

Thanks!

No worries, I've failed to spot people I thought I was following many times!

Yes we are currently in Mauritius having spending a few weeks on Reunion Island - Seeing how far we can get on SBDs :)

Hope you are well too. Perhaps a utopian-io post is in order from yourself soon? :)

Highly valuable info for newbies as well as for myself. Thanks for putting in the effort to analyze! Love data-driven pieces like this... @abh12345 in fact, this came in the right time as I was also wondering about each of their unique differences and prospects. I can see that they help different groups of authors too.

You're welcome, thank you for visiting :)

I do a couple of data type posts each week, one based around curation with prizes too.

Aim for all the applications/accounts votes if you can and see what sticks - I have!

.

Yes I thought @utopian-io would show the lowest reputation averages. Perhaps as the project matures, those contributing is becoming more static, and the votes by @utopian-io are raising the same contributors.

If this is the case we could see @utopian-io rep averages pass @dtube over the coming months.

Thanks for the approval!

While I do appreciate your analysis and the work you put into it I do see one small flaw which in the end wouldn't have changed the rankings in the category, but perhaps would have made it a bigger gap. With a Curie vote the person's experience level jumps a good 10 points instantly. And since you are seeing the numbers after the votes it should be noted that Curie does go after a much lower experience level of author and is in fact geared more toward the newer undiscovered authors with little success to that point (with exceptions of course, and the fact that you can be upvoted multiple times to a certain point)

Disclaimer: Full disclosure I am a new Curie Curator, and am just speaking from my own experience and study. I also have no knowledge of the other two platforms, so it could very well be the same case, depending on just how big their upvote and trail is.

Thanks again for the analysis.

With a Curie vote the person's experience level jumps a good 10 points instantly.

If you mean 'reputation', the same is true for both @dtube and utopian who also give out large votes.

Also, this is the reputation of the author at the time the post was voted.

Additionally, I don't fully understand the angle of your comment, but thank you for taking the time to do so.

Sorry, yes I meant reputation.

I was just saying, I appreciate your analysis and wasn't sure if you had taken that into account. And I wasn't sure if the votes from utopian and dtube caused as a big a jump.

Sorry, didn't realize you could view the reputation number at the time of the vote, assumed it was after the vote.

Thanks again.

No worries, thanks for your input!

When you start an analysis, you don't always get back what you expect. I actually think that @curie (with the lowest rep vote average and most unique votes) has done better than I expected compared to the other accounts analysed.

Cheers!

Curie has looked after me the best. I’m not a video person, not a huge suggestion machine (although I broke the near to only music theme of my blog to do one recently), so it’s one of the only outlets for me.

I wonder how OCD and Sndbox / Sndbox-Alpha factor into things vs. Curie? They seem like the most likely of peers.

I'm glad @curie has been looking after you :)

A curator team comparison sounds interesting, i'll add it to the list.

Cheers!

.

Over 90 days perhaps, but yes the rep is tied to the post in this case.

Thanks for this analysis @abh12345, I have notice what you said about @dtube by observation. They vote on accounts with high reputation and most accounts which have received upvotes before keep receiving.

I have tried @dtube severally without getting their upvotes, I gave up and started using Youtube. I think they should reconsider this and make some adjustments.

Good stats by @utopia.io and @curie who has reward more new users, making their stay on steemit worthwhile.

I'm sorry about your bad luck with @dtube, I hope you can try to get a vote from them at some point.

Thanks for the comments!

Thanks man, i hope so too

Hey @abh12345 I am @utopian-io. I have just upvoted you!

Achievements

  • WOW WOW WOW People loved what you did here. GREAT JOB!
  • You are generating more rewards than average for this category. Super!;)
  • Seems like you contribute quite often. AMAZING!

Community-Driven Witness!

I am the first and only Steem Community-Driven Witness. Participate on Discord. Lets GROW TOGETHER!

mooncryption-utopian-witness-gif

Up-vote this comment to grow my power and help Open Source contributions like this one. Want to chat? Join me on Discord https://discord.gg/Pc8HG9x

Nice analysis - are there any quality controls for @dtube do you know?

I can see the trail for @utopian-io in the comments to the posts, and I can see the 'rules for submission' so I know why a particular post gets an upvote and another doesn't; and I know that @curie has high standards from reading the blurb in discord.... but what about @dtube? Where are the standards published? What gets upvoted and why?

I guess the quality control lies with the manual curation.

I don't think we have standards to view for @dtube..

hmm, interesting that dtube is supporting a lot of high rep authors. my son @schubes started using dlive a few days ago and got a huge upvote yesterday. that led me to look and dlive has 2,000,000 STEEM allocated compared to 1,000,000 for dtube, interesting!

2 mil! NICE!

As @dlive is a fairly new addition, I didn't include them but next time (whenever that is) they will likely be included. Cheers!

@abh1234 !!! Good judgement and Analysis.
I mean I think without Curie, Utopian, Busy, Dtube and others, steem would be less charming to newcomers. Extraordinary to have that examination, thankful!

I in like manner have no data of the other two phases, so it could be a comparable case, dependent upon precisely how gigantic their upvote and trail is.

I think without Curie, Utopian, Busy, Dtube and others, steem would be less charming to newcomers.

Yes i think you are spot on here. Thanks for your comments!

Good comparison,looks like utopian io is a clear winner here.
You must make a blog on dmania,have never seen such crazy rewards that it gives.

I may include a look a @dmania in future, perhaps when they have a longer period of data to analyse. Cheers!

No doubt @curie is doing an impressive job. With the passage of time, more and more projects are being started on Steemit and it will accommodate the ever increasing Steemian community.

These charts definitely give a good idea about whom they vote.
Looking forward to upload my first video on dtube next week. Let us see how their reaction towards me will be.

Thanks! Good luck with your first @dtube contribution!

What?!? No pie charts? Pppppffffff this is bullshit.

You can have a chocolate bar chart or 6 instead.

I dont like chocolate. I want pies. PIES. PAAAAAAIIIS!

great post.
I think @utopian-io :-) is a great plartform for us.
thanks for your analysis

Yes @utopian-io is a great asset to the Steem Blockchain, as are the other accounts analysed.

Thanks for your comments :)

welcome sir...

Thanks for the excellent analysis. Your tests are the best on Steem.

Спасибо за великолепный анализ. Ваши анализы самые лучшие на Steem.

Thank you @cranium. There a a couple of analysts who I look up to here and are excellent with data. @crokkon, @miniature-tiger, @paulag, @eastmael to name but a few.

Cheers!

Thank you Asher for the mention and excellent analysis. With this analysis, we now have supporting data (evidence) that @curie is in accordance with its mission to reward and recognize new Steemit users with its low reputation average. (Albeit the 50+ average is still high in my opinion)

@dtube and @utopian-io I agree are more of a focused group so I do was expecting that the number of authors rewarded by the two accounts will be smaller compared to that of @curie.

So far, what I was able to get from this was - if you're new to the platform, you have greater chances of getting an up-vote from @curie if you use the common route - posting thru steemit.com or busy.org. The challenge for the curators here is that there's just a large/wide array of users that curators have to sift through.

For utopian and dtube, the user pool gets smaller because for an author to be upvoted by one of these accounts, the author needs to use the bot's respective platforms. This filters the authors with this layer.

For example, if a user choose to post thru utopian.io, then the topic a user submits here will be focused - open-source and reputation most likely will not matter. A thought here is - if I'm new to the platform, the first thing that will be on my mind is to familiarize myself with my surroundings. After I've familiarized myself with my surroundings (and with it most likely my reputation would have grown), then that's the time I may choose to post next on more focused platforms.

And lastly, for @dtube, I just learned here that there's a higher probability of receivinng an upvote if you're an established account. So if there's anything that stuck with me, it would be this.

Thank you for your comments @eastmael, a fine analysis summary!

You are quite correct regarding the smaller pool of accounts for @dtube and @utopian-io, giving @curie and advantage with the unique vote count, and perhaps the other sections of analysis.

As I stated at the end, an analysis to include followers could also provide further evidence - although it's quite tricky to include 'subscribers' from YT which might show some interesting results.

Cheers!

Great Analysis @abh12345. I was not following you before but after reading your quality content and great information for us, I will definitely follow you now... I am waiting for your next Post in my feed. Keep it up @abh12345 :)

Great! Thanks for your kind comment :)

Very interesting! We had no idea there are accounts like that!

Thanks for sharing your analysis.

Thank you for sharing your analysis and very useful for me

good analysis that is
good your activity dear.........thanks for sharing

good post...sir
upvoted

Thank you very much :D

Thanks for collection this information and share with us.

Thanks for giving the chance to enjoy this beautiful news!!

This post has received a 3.75 % upvote from @boomerang thanks to: @abh12345

The post you have posted has many important information, which is very helpful for me. We want you to be with us with such important information, we were with you, I will be there. Through this post I learned something new.
Thank you so much for posting so beautiful......

You got a 5.31% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @abh12345!

Want to promote your posts too? Check out the Steem Bot Tracker website for more info. If you would like to support the development of @postpromoter and the bot tracker please vote for @yabapmatt for witness!

ATLEAST $100K NEEDED TO SAVE PREMATURE BABIES IN OUR COMMUNITY HOSPITAL.
We urgently need steemers to contribute steem dollars to save the life of premature babies in our community hospital. Transfers can made to @gangas . If you can not assist with steem dollars, atleast upvote to this comment, your upvote is donation too. God bless the hand that gives. Thanks.

It is totally inappropriate to discuss irreverent topics on someone else's blogs, without at least first interacting with them. Do this again and you will be flagged.

very informative post.i really like your blog.many tnanks for your valuable post..
please keep on your activity...

Thanks for awsome information!!!

Up voted and followed.
Please follow me on Steemit: https://steemit.com/@labwork

You got a 16.71% upvote from @bid4joy courtesy of @abh12345!

great post.I think @abh12345 is a great plartform for us.
thanks for your analysis.

Very good analysis
I think this is the best opportunity for every
Little or big authors

its very nice and update about steeming the blog @abh12345.
wonderful and good post

Thank you Asher for the mention and excellent analysis, good content @abh12345

thank you @abh12345 for your infermation
I started my test today so early morning I could not come

Congratulations @abh12345! You have completed some achievement on Steemit and have been rewarded with new badge(s) :

Award for the number of upvotes

Click on any badge to view your own Board of Honor on SteemitBoard.
For more information about SteemitBoard, click here

If you no longer want to receive notifications, reply to this comment with the word STOP

By upvoting this notification, you can help all Steemit users. Learn how here!

Banding together for the purposes of influencing who gets rewards is reward pool rape.
It disadvantages all authors not selected as 'good' enough.

That said, utopian, at least in the public persona, supports folks that are building the blockchain, that is hard to fault though it disadvantages all not favored by them nonetheless.

That said, utopian, at least in the public persona, supports folks that are building the blockchain, that is hard to fault though it disadvantages all not favored by them nonetheless.

You can't be favoured if you don't submit a contribution. All accounts are treated equally, it's all about the content.

They have little SP of their own, and delegation is key.

With delegation the Bid-bots will exist too, so it's a case of rough with the smooth for me.

I am not a coder, I have no proposals to submit to utopian, that they would like to hear.

I have had a conversation with elear, much like this one, we haven't talked since.
I don't see the point in continuing to berate him to the point of being a troll.

He put his fingers in his ears and started going blah blah blah, he had no interest in the fact that using that delegation diminished my rewards, at all.
I'd assume that you will fall into that category, before this conversation goes much farther, but I am a cynic on this subject,...I haven't found much support for it.
They all just jump up and down trying to curry the favor of the whales.

@curie told me right up front that my content wasn't going to pass muster, too controversial.

I don't make videos, so dtube is not an option, I'm just straight screwed out my rewards that their delegation takes from me due to the proof of stake nature of the platform.
When big sp votes, every sp smaller is diminished.
My vote gives less.

I hope you don't expect me to just shut up and like it.
That is an unlikely outcome.

I hope you don't expect me to just shut up and like it.

Of course not, and I wouldn't wish to. I'm just finding trouble understanding how you think that the more we see decentralized applications on the Steem Blockchain, the more immovable it will become.

Steemit and the other 'pure blogging' platforms are not enough to send STEEM to this moon people talk about.

I've had a look through your feed, and without being rude, @dmania or https://www.decentmemes.com/ could be options to look at.

If you have a bug/suggetion with busy.org for example, no code is required to submit that to @utopian-io

If you enjoy video games, streem on @dlive, or record for @dtube.

Have a good day.

Loading...

cool post! wooow