With out being rude, @daut44, it is my responsibility to protect my children, not yours. I believe, after already having a child injured by vaccine's, that it is not worth risking the rest if my children. Immunocompromised people are in and out of hospitals and clinics, and are around many unvaccinated and very sick people regularly, why would my unvaxed child be more of a risk to them?
Did you know that some vaccine's shed? Meaning that there is a very real possibility that it was actually a vaccinated person who started the outbreak. I believe there was an outbreak at a university recently, which was among all vaccinated students, but the media kept that part quiet.
Vaccine shedding is a debunked myth. The only vaccine that shed was the live polio vaccine, and that actually helped immunize more people in the 1950s, and only rarely did it actually infect others. No other vaccine has been known to shed.
Please stop using the availability heuristic and reading on pseudoscience websites that give dangerous advice that harm more than just your own children. Do not allow the immunization threshold to fall below 95% and threaten herd immunity because you were too stubborn to trust people who dedicated their lives to scientifically studying this rather than spreading fear through the use of isolated stories.
I'm sorry that your child suffered pain, but I doubt it was caused by a vaccine, and even if it was, the injury pales in comparison to the devastation the diseases spread to those who are unvaccinated cause. Please please please listen to scientists, the vast majority of licensed medical physicians, and all the smartest people you know outside of your ignorant bubble and vaccinate your children. You are playing Russian Roulette with more than just your own family.
Wow, you are more igorant than I thought it possible to be and still draw breath.
Enlighten me
If enlightenment were possible for you it would have already happened. Do what I do, use the Trivium and go out there and try to prove yourself wrong.
I read your comments, you are already deeply indoctrinated. The only person who can possibly convince you at this point is you.
I don't care a whit what you call me. Speak to the facts or stay out on the porch, the big dogs are attempting to understand how the world actually works, dogma be damned.
Me not supporting your belief is not my issue. Your beliefs are your own problem. Belief is not reason. I'll side with the facts and knowledge.
This. I asked for enlightenment, I googled around and the best possible anti-vaccination argument I could find is that 1 in 1,000,000 people die and 1 in 20,000 people has some side effect. But if nobody had vaccines the risks are much much higher.
I understand the game theory, if every other person vaccinates, then maybe it's in my best interest to not vaccinate because it could increase my survival EV, but if enough people think like that, everyone loses. And the more people you convince to not vaccinate, the more you should want to vaccinate.
I looked around and could not find a single alternative or argument that outweighed the benefit of vaccines. I laid out my case and it has not been refuted by anything other than "you are ignorant" "you are the only one who can cure your ignorance". I suspect the response will be something like "grumble grumble main stream media grumble grumble", to which I'll reply, are you a follower of Putin who sows distrust in the media for no reason?
It is not my business to endlessly refute nonsense. If you can't even do more work than a little 'googling around' to convince yourself then it is not worth my time. I prefer to converse with those who wish to add to understanding and not those who only seek spread the dogma they've accepted as truth.
Try putting thousands of hours over years into the study and see what you come up with for an understanding.
I googled it, seriously? What, did you spend five whole minutes?