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RE: VYB Announcements: Rewards Pool, Governance, Project Fund

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I'm a little confused. As English is not my native language, I may have misunderstood some translations.

My question is regarding the tags that can be used.

Will there be a punishment or something if we use other tags? In fact some I use to fill the 10, as is the case of: broadhive, archon and ash.

However, there are others that I use according to the theme, for example: leofinance. When I publish something related to finance, I always put it on their front-end and use the tags: pob and vyb. Because it's a community that I also frequent and I would like this content in it.

Will I be penalized for this?

While I wait for the answer I will try to read it a few more times and understand better.

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My hope would be that all general-purpose tribes follow suit and exclude all general-purpose tribe tags but their own, thus creating competition between all the general-purpose tribes.

Hive-Engine tribes and tokens are by default very centralized, as adeptly pointed out some months ago by @themarkymark. Centralization in and of itself is not bad, as long as there is healthy competition. Although decentralization is a noble goal and aspiration, at present we seek a highly-competitive environment within which to exist. If anyone and everyone can simply fork a general-purpose tribe and token but add nothing new, then we simply end up with a senseless quagmire of general-purpose tribes everywhere you turn.

As @themarkymark candidly responded to a question I asked during his recent AMA:

While one general purpose tribe is fine, a bunch of them just makes no sense to me (just my opinion). It just ends up being about rewards.

Marky's point is well-stated and well taken. Proof of Brain & Verify Your Brain represent a unique Layer 2 experiment (imho). With that said, we don't simply want everyone and his brother just adding the #vyb tag to every post, just to grab some extra rewards.

Instead, we want Verify Your Brain (& Proof of Brain) to be the go-to Layer 2 general-purpose tribe. So, for starters, we are intentionally creating a competitive environment where it is (at first, anyways) POB & VYB versus all the other general-purpose tribes. In other words, we are creating an environment where either we are adding something more than 'just more rewards' or we get (rightfully) ignored. If all general-purpose tribes follow suit, then each must add some unique value or fall to the wayside. This is the way it should be.

Everyone participates on the Layer 1 general-purpose 'tribe' that is Hive. Innovation comes from competition. We are looking to shift the paradigm for general-purpose tribes away from 'just another Layer 2 general-purpose tribe' to a place where folks can engage and build together something that is bigger than themselves -- and where they are forced to either innovate and grow or settle for the status quo and whither away.


Will I be penalized for this?

This is not meant to be punitive, although I can see how some might interpret it that way. We are creating something new here. No one is forced to use the #vyb tag. However, those who choose to use the #vyb tag will need to abstain from using any other general-purpose tribe's tag(s) if they want to receive VYB tokens.


... for example: leofinance. When I publish something related to finance, I always put it on their front-end and use the tags: pob and vyb.

Although there has been some discussion about reducing the VYB rewards associated with posts that use niche tags such as leofinance, there are no overt plans to do that and such action would not be taken unless there was overwhelming support within the VYB Stewardship Board to do something like that. And, FWIW, neither ScotBot nor the rewards-pool smart contract currently support anything like that.

Outside of Lasse, Palnet, Neoxian, what other tribes are you considering "general"?

Outside of Lasse, Palnet, Neoxian, what other tribes are you considering "general"?

I believe Broadhive, Ash, Archon and Cent are a general tribe

So if i understand, no problem if i keep using Leo, Vyb and Pob, right?

no problem if i keep using Leo, Vyb and Pob, right?

Correct.

That's a good question.

I (personally) would say any that do not actively moderate their tag use would probably qualify (regardless of what they openly state -- in other words, actions speak louder than words).

However, another reasonable criterion would be any that do not clearly state the type of content they do allow. If they don't say and simply leave it open to anyone's and everyone's interpretation, then for all intents and purposes, they are general.

I am definitely open to other suggestions, though (as I am sure @calumam and @scholaris are, as well).

I am definitely open to other suggestions, though (as I am sure @calumam and @scholaris are, as well).

Of course. Decentralization doesn't work with closed minds.

I know @scholaris has requested feedback from the community already on his initial draft moderation proposal for VYB (@notconvinced also brought his brain to the table with regards to this, demonstrating the power of decentralization at work) and I've reached out personally in the comments on the VYB Curation Project announcement post and within the post itself. I hope these recent instances can be examples of our desire to be transparent and open to criticism, feedback and additional support.

I'm looking forward to the building to come in the future, courtesy of the VYB Project Fund led by the brains on the VYB Stewardship Board.

I liked the ideia, about general tribes.