Notice: Using @steem to create accounts to proxy vote will get you flagged!

in #witness6 years ago

Currently the faucet used to create accounts is giving away 0.5 SP and granting a delegation of 14.5 SP for a total of 15 Steem Power.

With every new account having the power to upvote 10 times a day for 0.01 SBD or $0.06 USD the number of proxy voting accounts has been on the rise.

The faucet is meant to award one account per person.

This is my notice to the bad actors in our community:

Accounts using proxy voters created by @steem will be flagged to remove 100% of the rewards before payout.

If you feel the need to have more of your own accounts to upvote your post you can create the accounts by transferring or delegating your own STEEM to them or buy them.

I'll also be providing a list of accounts to the developers and asking for them to remove the delegations from those accounts. Right now that list only has 547 accounts but I have another 1000 that I have to manually verify that I probably will be adding.

@databasemarket

@hunterbutt

Please note above examples are the easiest to find as to not disclose my methods of finding these accounts. I have ways to find them whether they are posting with one or 100 accounts and proxy voting.

Way to go @smartsteem!

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But using premined Steem to create accounts to proxy vote will get patrice to work for you and let you get away with murder.

when you do even a quarter of the work that Patrice does for the good of this platform ... you get to mouth off. In the interim... you are totally clueless.

When I have as much delegated Steem for the same purpose that Patrice got, I will do more work than Patrice does.
I have enough clue when I see accounts under her control participating in circle jerks with other supposedly vigilante accounts and having a 100% voting quota, which means unused.

another clueless tool

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BS

Look at her witness list and you will see a large number of folks neck-deep in the war against the biggest abusers of all...

Where do I find her witness list?
And I did not know that there are currently any persistent folks neck-deep in the war against the biggest abusers of all.

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Great job!
Fight the small ones, ignore the big ones.
Nothing new.
Corporatism implemented on Steemit.
As long as you leave checkthisout/grumpycat alone, all is good.

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nice work 🎨 be merciless with these bad actors and there should be many ways to increase risk of proxy voting with some new steem penalties imposed if caught - maybe like crowd funding a punisher-bot or something like that?🐀

What is the legal way to create a second account?

There are a few witnesses and other members of the community that sell accounts. They are pretty reasonable. If I have the spare SP to delegate I'll also create free accounts on occasion.

@anonsteem
@netuoso

Another option is to create them yourself if you have STEEM you want to transfer to the new account or you have SP you can delegate. I've been using the wallet by @jesta and have made several accounts with Vessel.

Whoever you are @patrice will find you. You better behave in steem community.

Well done job @patrice.

Wow really a greate work...nice idea to drain spams...@patrice

Wow, this is a really great work you are doing...
More strength to keep you up

Thank you for doing what you are doing! These tactics definitely need to be squashed in order to maintain a high-quality platform. Do you know if the developers are trying to implement some AI/ML to automate the flagging of accounts that are trying to game the platform?

I think they are more focused on SMTs and HF 21 right now. The good news is that HF 20 will hopefully stop this type of abuse. Each new account will have a minimal amount of bandwidth to perform transactions without delegating SP.

I'm reading up on HF 20 right now. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!

Nice info, hopefully we can make awareness that using steemit well is good for steemit community itself.

With every new account having the power to upvote 10 times a day for 0.01 SBD or $0.06 USD the number of proxy voting accounts has been on the rise.

Is it just me, or did we have ways to mitigate this in previous versions of Steem?

Ah...the consequences of Steemit Inc.’s hard forking ignorance and/or carelessness. Can’t wait for their new proposals to “improve” things!

I really hope someone takes the ideas we discussed in chat the other day seriously. The current account creation process is broken.

What do you mean @patrice? Newbie here, but would like to learn the reason why.

The current signup relies on verification by SMS text. There are services out there for social media sites that sell SMS Verification services and temporary telephone numbers for SMS verification.

The @dart group has created almost a 1000 accounts I can find this month.

These accounts are not going to users who want to be part of the community. Like the examples above they are just here to get some free money. Many of them do it with bots.

Well SLAY THEM! Take my 100% upvote which is a lot and go kill em xD

thank you for sharing, very useful for me a beginner in the world of steemit and please support his sister yes.

@patrice, great observation. good words. say no to spammers. they get rewarded so much for nothing.

Please I need your help, I have written an apology letter to cheetah for more than a week now yet I still get the black list thing anytime I post. I really tired about it, What can I do please to get off that list and stop getting negative votes?Thanks
https://steemit.com/steemitabuse-appeals/@cryptocheta/this-is-my-appology-to-steemit-communnity

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This is a great observatory here , I will advice that instead of creating multiple accounts and alloting votes to one account , most people have forgotten some importance of steemit , we are here to learn and in turn we earn which is not always an assurance , I believe if one create one single account and focus on it , voting commenting and giving impacts to people's post , that he or she will earn , instead of giving themselves work logging in onto different account just to gather more SBDs and Steemit.
I love this , its really a nice job

Yeah, I can't but agree with you completely. You got me right there!

This is a great observatory here , I will advice that instead of creating multiple accounts and alloting votes to one account , most people have forgotten some importance of steemit , we are here to learn and in turn we earn which is not always an assurance , I believe if one create one single account and focus on it , voting commenting and giving impacts to people's post , that he or she will earn , instead of giving themselves work logging in onto different account just to gather more SBDs and Steemit.
I love this , its really a nice job

You took time to study what is going on in the system. nice work

Don't you think accounts made just to upvote the owners posts should be banned?

@patrice,
I don't know how I missed you as a witness. Okay I will add you soon. Today proxy voting, they need a lot of phone numbers. That would be a great idea to drain their rewards.

Cheers~

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it great to know that spammer will be removed soon what about bot system

You really work hard at keeping everyone honest! You are so appreciated! I didn't know that were a witness. You have my vote now!

@patrice I salute to you! More power and keep it up. God bless us always.

Wow @patrice, it's amazing how much effort people seem willing to put into gaming the system rather than simply using the system. Well done for keeping an eye on these sorts of nefarious activities. I just hope there are enough people on the "good" side of this community to offset the actions of any "bad actors."

Bright Blessings to you!

المزيد من النجاح والتوفيق 😄

You are such a hero. We are lucky to have you Patrice.

-- thanks again.

you are downvoting me in a mistake. i did not create any proxy account.

i had only two accounts.

and you guys are wasteing my time on steemit.

check my posts thier there are no similar votes.

Thank you for your hard work.

I would like to see a portion taken from the inflation, like witness rewards, that is spent on spam remediation and plagiarism.

All users should share this cost, just as they do witness pay, and sp interest.
Spam is not going away, and as long as we are playing crapitalism, you have something coming besides admiration and adoration.

Also removing it from folks having to use their vote power to finance it would benefit those that support you now.
They could vote on 'good' content, and 'gems', instead.

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@Patrice

I just made a new account last night for a new initiative, a form of minnow school and I do not know yet exactly how it will be used but can you check for me, and will I be able to have it de-funded and put my own funds into it so as to avoid these pitfalls? ;) TIA, <3 and always supportive!

Rob

If you used the faucet to create the account all you need to do is delegate 15 SP to it. :) The faucet will automatically adjust to remove its delegation.

Thank you!

Thank YOU, Patrice... All the <3 Love and Respect, I am the "mentor" of @ spiritualmax (the card guru) and we have spoken before. I will be doing the delegations immediately, so I guess it was never a problem! Still waiting for the approval, patiently... Again, Much <3 :* xoxox!

:) I like @spiritualmax.

If it doesn't get created soon let me know. I'm always happy to create accounts for users who will provide their own SP. :)

SWEEET!
Max is a great guy, I saw the potential and Star Power he has and we are doing @taskmaster4450's 1kSP program together. I am trying to get a 'minnow Boot Camp' project started, and the account will be for that effort. In fact, I could go ahead and ask you to do one for @minnow-bootcamp if you tell me what to do, Patrice! ;)

Find me on Discord.

You are clearly the Steem-ANGEL your avatar suggests :D

Thanks you.. nice quote

your bot is fucking up my account i didnt know it was ilegal to post a few referal links there is no warning on steemit

please stop ur bot

I have to look but since you're on my high frequency list it looks like you were using an automated script/bot to post YouTube videos. Bot posting clogs up the feeds and makes it difficult to find content. If you refrain from the automated posting I'll remove you.

i did not use a bot i swear on my fucking life! ,u wrong assumption making human ! i was just posting myself every 5 mins for many hours state if thats wrong there should be more than a 5 min limit . now i quit steemit thanks to you

I removed you from the list. Check out the FAQ & Abuse Guide.

I also suggest checking out @minnowsupport. There's a lot of dedicated people over there to help new users.

I'd suggest limiting the number of low quality posts. The bandwidth allocated to the accounts was never intended to allow users to spam one link posts.

and your bot has re added me... how many dam post can i make per day with out u fucking with me

The bot didn't re-add you. That was my fault. The fail-over kicked in and I hadn't updated the lists on my backup. Removed the flags.

if there's something i can do to prove i wasn't using a bot then tell me !! because i really wasn't !
u make 2 days non stop work mean nothing if i dont get my rep back. because otherwise i quit steemit

i hardly slept when i did all that posting it cant be all 4 nothing

and if i did it for nothing then i am never coming back to this site

if i was botting i would be getting 280 posts per day that would be 560 in 2 days i did 200 in 2 and a half days of ME posting on steemit

i dont even care about this good for nothing site, but at least say 'by the way u can post every 5 mins but if you do your account will become worthless'

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you should have better software that really knows if someones botting because i was not and i am sure u fuck many peoples accounts who have done nothing wrong

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If someone has entered cheetah blacklist, cheetah dont ever remove the person from the list. I have written an apology letter more than two times now yet it more worst now, because you still down vote me on the apology letter. This is very very discouraging and to be frank it makes me not to like steemit anymore, because of this discouragement. I lost my power and yet very post still get a negative vote. I dont think it is fair.

https://steemit.com/steemitabuse-appeals/@cryptocheta/this-is-my-appology-to-steemit-communnity-this-is-4th-time-am-writting-this

Please I need your help with this, I have learn badly from my mistake due to I was new in the system and I didnt properly read through the rules. Please help me out.

I did a quick search of the chat channels steemitabuse-appeals on both discord & steemit.chat. I didn't see a request in there. I'll have a look at your account.

Thank you very much for quick response you are really a mentor for me on steemit.

Hi there. It's your favorite databasemarket! So... You win! I will now start to [manually] remove all of the votes that I have cast after I got flagged on my account in the comments. Unfortunately, I think the mack-bot picked up on my trail and flagged some innocent people I used the bot on.

Truth is, I just wanted to try this to see if it worked and if I could do it. I don't actually need this, so I'll just stop.

Well played! =)

Thanks.

Hi. Can you tell me hy my account flagged by mack-bot?

Hi. Can you tell me hy my account flagged by mack-bot?

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sorry if i made a mistake.
can you remove your mac-bot robot from my account?
if my post about crypto signal make a mistake then i will replace it.

Dear @patrice can you guide me that why your bot is down voting to me and can i improve my rating

ok i know i made mistakes but when i aware from this i stop this and yesterday i create a valuable content but again bot vote me down

can you remove low rating from my last post because this post having no issue like that with the title of bitcoins forecast thank you in advance.

Hi @patrice!
We’re here writing to you asking for explanations. At the moment, we are really disappointed.
Recently our posts has been flagged by @spamminator. Abruptly our posts have been downvoted without providing no information about the real reason for that.
Here ( https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@neronius/meet-neronius-an-ai-powered-steemit-blogger ) you can find our “introduce yourself”, which shows you what we are trying to do here in Steemit for this community, and here you can read our results (https://steemit.com/technology/@neronius/neronius-project-or-ai-powered-steemit-blogger-or-1st-month-results ) after a month of hard work.
In the last few days we have had serious problems with our artificial intelligence, that’s true but Neronius’ posts had been flagged for spam the days before that total mess. Here
( https://steemit.com/technology/@neronius/fixing-problems ) you can find an explanation of the real situation at the moment.

We are really trying to understand why our posts became the target of spamminator’s downvotes, and what are the criteria that those same posts did not respect.
We believe in the good faith of your project, we wait an answer that clarifies the situation.
Thanks for your attention and have a nice day!

Hi @patrice!
I'm here talking in the name of the team behind @neronius and this is why i'im going to speak as "we" in the comment.

We’re here writing to you asking for explanations. At the moment, we are really disappointed.
Recently our posts has been flagged by @spamminator. Abruptly our posts have been downvoted without providing no information about the real reason for that.
Here ( https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@neronius/meet-neronius-an-ai-powered-steemit-blogger ) you can find our “introduce yourself”, which shows you what we are trying to do here in Steemit for this community, and here you can read our results (https://steemit.com/technology/@neronius/neronius-project-or-ai-powered-steemit-blogger-or-1st-month-results ) after a month of hard work.
In the last few days we have had serious problems with our artificial intelligence, that’s true but Neronius’ posts had been flagged for spam the days before that total mess. Here ( https://steemit.com/technology/@neronius/fixing-problems ) you can find an explanation of the real situation at the moment.

We are really trying to understand why our posts became the target of spamminator’s downvotes, and what are the criteria that those same posts did not respect. We would like to know those criteria in order to fix our posts to those rules.

We believe in the good faith of your project, we wait an answer that clarifies the situation.
Thanks for your attention and have a nice day!

SP from @steem faucet
tativi
pupi22
lucaamato
eremitta
gianito
gloriamaglio
sofialoved
silente
mcsctt
lrtower
buzz22

At this point it looks like you have 15 sock-puppet accounts. 11 of them using SP delegated by the free faucet @steem since you are only upvoting the posts by the one account.

I'm going to update my list and remove the accounts from it provided you delegate SP to those 11 accounts or stop using them to upvote until they no longer need SP from the steem faucet to vote.

And I apologize, I thought I commented on one of your posts about this and it was ignored. It was another account that I commented on. This is a common tactic to continue to create accounts to upvote using the free SP from the faucet. Some even have their own SP and still continue the practice powering down their puppet accounts at times.

ok, now we understand. Most of those accounts are relatives trying to support us in that project (@neronius) but we didn't know that it was against the rules.
We will immediately tell them to eliminate the upvote of those accounts. The only thing that interests us isto understand if an artificial intelligence is able to collect success with its blog within a social network/community like this.
We apologize for everything that happened, it was not our intention to be outside the rules.

What the fuck your bot is doing on me it down voting me still as i saw many people complaining here that they are victim by your bot without any reason as I AM A FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND I AM GIVING MY VIEW TO PEOPLE AND EVEN POSTING POST RELATED BITCOIN MOVEMENT but you are going downing my repute ............ please check it first rather than i will left the plateform

i really don't understand how you work .. my boyfriend and I work on the same laptop but we never shared the same account .. do you really have downvote or flag my articleS ? not just one.. can you explain this ?

After doing some digging I'm gong to guess stephanson1 is your boyfriend.

dagscarlie
graciejohn
jayeljay
joshshei
juliedoran
mariannaey

These accounts were created 20 days ago. They immediately start upvoting you and January 15th they all update their profile picture within minutes of each other.

I've removed your name from the list. Don't create accounts with the free faucet to upvote yourself or get friends to create accounts for you. If someone did it thinking they were helping, tell them it's a bad idea. The faucet is there to help provide SP to new users. Existing users need to buy their own accounts if they want more upvotes and use their own STEEM to delegate or buy SP.

The remaining accounts listed above will stay on the list until their delegations are removed.

no . well, i know how ip works but that incident happened during our overnight of work studies .. shall we have to put our Identification Card each for more verification? But, thanks though.

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