One major reason why I'm so open minded to conspiracy theories is because I started getting deep into researching the attacks on 9/11 after they happened.
I spent thousands of hours intensely researching the subject over the course of more than 10 years.
The evidence just kept piling up that all was not as it was being presented to be.
Most of the physical evidence for the biggest crime scene in American history was quickly shipped off to China to be melted down, top names refused to testify openly, and there was a push to deprive citizens of the US and the rest of the world basic human rights.
We were massively being kept in the dark and the overly secretive and questionable aspects of our so called "leaders" were overwhelming.
I didn't just watch a few videos on YouTube or go about it lazily to come to my conclusions, I was also part of a research forum focused on the subject and people from both sides would meet there to discuss/debate and I even personally talked with or debated some of the "big names" back during that time including one of the guys who co-authored the original papers on the collapse of the twin towers which was accepted and I do believe is still accepted to this day in terms of the "official story".
I looked at both sides and spent a significant amount of time "debunking" what I thought were false conspiracy theories and despite being not nearly as open minded as I am now to such kinds of things, I still had quite a few major questions that no one was able to answer.
I truly invested a significant portion of my life to try to honor the victims by trying to find the truth and helping in whatever ways I could and... What I learned can't just be easily put into a few words that could fit on a meme or even into many full books.
I wish I could somehow telepathically share what I've learned with anyone who is interested so they could know what I know.
It's one of the greatest frustrations to have so much extremely important information in your brain and not be able to present it in a way that others will accept or even respect.
The way the system is set up people are conditioned to ridicule conspiracy theorists and think they are crazy, to even discuss some of these things openly can take a lot of courage and that's something I think which is often overlooked by the masses of people who subscribe to nothing but the official conspiracy theories and what the so called authorities tell them is true.
The most common response is to be ignored or insulted and it can get worse up to intimidation, threats and even worse, there's very little money in it especially if you're not a huge name like Alex Jones... (Who I'm not a fan of by the way) So, why do people like myself spend so much time trying to alert others when we get so much stressful energy and adversity in return?
And I of course know that not all conspiracy theorists are "correct" and many of them are "assholes" and some can make it easy to create stereotypes, though... Stereotypical thinking is often fallacious and I think most of these kinds of people are truly trying to help even some of them seem irrational or like jerks sometimes.
There was a point I used to make fun of and joke about conspiracy theories about a NWO and secret societies having significant influence in government and then I realized I was wrong...
I spent a lot of time and changed my position and opinion.
Conspiracies aren't just rare either, powerful people come together to try to exploit virtually every area of life that they can... You can find legitimate conspiracies almost everywhere you look and it's not some sort of wild and outlandish "rare" sort of thing, it's extremely common.
Many people believe what happened on 9/11 is linked to what's happening now with covid-19 and... I was skeptical at first, but the more and more that has played out the more I think there is a major connection there.
It's scary to get deep into what's going on in the world and I think that's one reason so many prefer to mock and make fun of and avoid or ignore these kinds of things.
Truly... I think you have to come face to face with some of your own worst fears and aspects of mortality and also go face to face with just how truly evil humans can be and how different the reality is from what is advertised by the traditional institutions of power and influence and especially the corrupt and controlled mainstream media.
My heart goes out to all the victims of 9/11, and the victims of the ensuing wars that followed and just all the victims in general throughout history and into the future who are treated as expendable resources and collateral damage for the greedy and immoral ambitions of political immorality , secretive forces and predatory groups.
Also, my appreciation and thanks goes out to all those who are brave enough to not only search for the truth, but also to speak their truth and try to share what they've learned with others even at great potential risk to themselves.
As a final statement I just want to say that I think two major things that would be good to work on collectively are apathy and secrecy... I think both of those are major factors that lead to events like the attacks on 9/11 and which also allow them to not be brought to the kind of justice they merit.
Peace and love. <3
PS... I would say that both 9/11 and covid-19 are eerily related in the sense they were both predicted in numerous and significant ways across a broad spectrum of formats from government drills and plans/agendas to TV shows, movies, books, video games, paintings, music, comics, etc.
It's just sort of overwhelming how much evidence is out there is if you look with an open mind and it is very concerning in my opinion.
I don't own the rights to this image, it's just a meme I found on social media and I'm sharing it in a fair use sense.
The interesting question for me is: how do I manage to win over both one side and the other? Where am I the secret bridge builder? Can I bring this about with stealth or offence? Can I become a friend of the enemy? How does that work? How do I do that? How can I convince without convincing?
Probably the great stupidity that the self commits is to expect the committers of stupidity to freely admit such. Who should come and do this except those who take their own stupidity lightly?
There is a saying in my language: "Don't fall into the house with the door".
If you can manage to transform your findings into something indirect, it'll gain power through this indirectness, I think. I must learn this myself ever so often. When I see myself unable to go with this principle it's best for me to not take up the topic at all.
I made the experience that when I wanted to throw balls into the curb and I just did it with the attitude that I did not really worry, if it hit or not, I was even able to throw it backwards and it slit through the whole. In not worrying, I can find care, but not too much, for it then turns itself into worry again. If you know what I mean :)
I love all your questions! And I don't pretend to have the answer for you... But, I think my answer to all those things is to try to work on a solution that people would want to voluntarily move towards that does not involve violent force and coercion in order to achieve. I used to think fighting the old system was important, but... Now I think it would work better to just make it "obsolete" by coming up with a better idea. That's no easy task! Especially when so many are so enamored and stuck in this system, however... It doesn't need everyone to succeed. It could just be me living alone out in the forest somewhere, lol. Or with a group of people. Or... More. I guess time will tell what happens with all that. :)
Those are some fascinating words, especially since I've learned a new way to look at the "fool"...
I used to be the kind who couldn't very well handle having my intelligence insulted, then I learned to look at it as a compliment because the fool is one of the most powerful archetypes of them all. For... How does one ever learn anything new if they aren't a fool enough to make mistakes?
I'm not sure I understand the saying in your language of "Don't fall into the house with the door"? I think maybe there's a bit of a language barrier or something, I tried Googling it and couldn't find any explanation either.
I like what you said about indirectness also, it kind of reminds me of what I mentioned earlier about sort of doing your own thing and not fighting the old system, just follow your dreams and by tapping into that amazing energy perhap you can make the most change even if it is a bit "indirectly".
Some of these things aren't 100% and might only be applicable in certain situations, or might be wiser to use them in some ways and not others, though... In a general sort of sense I think it makes a lot of sense! :D
Thank you for your reply. Appreciated.
HaHa! I agree very much with the archetype of the fool. The fool knows, no one can insult his intelligence but himself. Since he is one among other archetypes, it can be said, he is as much needed as those others, for example, the warrior, the strategist, the healer etc. - all of those characters speak to us, I find. We can identify with many characters, that's a very interesting skill of us humans.
One cannot be always the fool as much as one cannot always take one particular role in life. It's the flexibility in changing roles and perspectives to get along well.
The expression to fall into the house right with the door:
When I say "the universe consists of burned almonds ", that's the opposite of falling into the house with the door. It makes you think, it irritates you for it's seemingly perceived nonsense.
It differs from the statement: "the universe consists of mere stupid matter", it's fixing a notion one-sided.
Like you said, here:
One can fight the established system by not fighting it. I agree. The indirect path is a primarily personal one, only secondary a collective, I think. I know nothing specific about the collective, rather in-specific, on an intuitive level.
There is a common plot of naivete and incompetent planning with poor foresight, followed by an event, followed by fear, followed by incompetent responses by incompetent leaders. Beyond that, I don't know.
Our minds have been evolving in adversarial environments for hundreds of thousands of years in order to better predict the future. And with mass media we are able to see all kinds of predictions from many minds, most often ones that generate fear because we're attuned to it as a survival tool. Fear sells almost as good as sex. One of our faults seems to be we're more willing to invest more time into fantasies like watching The Walking Dead than invest into appreciating what we have and preventing societal collapse. This despite the greatest investment ever made in painstakingly building it on top of a mountain of corpses of the past, so that we can make and watch a TV show like The Walking Dead.
Ironically conspiracy theorists that like to believe in just about every conspiracy they hear of, because their minds are too open, are the greatest useful idiots for any real conspiracy if it actually exists.
I was just talking with my father about this earlier today and explaining how some believe things like 9/11 and covid-19 are sort of just incompetence as opposed to a more nefarious intentional possibility and I admit I can't prove it 100%, but I've more and more moved towards the "they did these things with intention" camp as opposed to they were just ignorant and incompetent.
I am open minded to the idea that these events weren't just spontaneous events that were capitalized on by the power structure and that they were planned, perhaps even planned a LONG time ago.
I agree fear sells and is one of the most powerful tools used against us. If we weren't so afraid of dying or pain or whatever then we wouldn't be controlled nearly as much by the people who know how to manipulate such for their own aims and goals.
Very interesting point about people being more invested in a fantasy show like The Walking Dead as opposed to trying to meaningfully help society. Sometimes I feel like there's something more to that whole "zombie" archetype and that perhaps shows like that have become very popular for a reason and there's something deeper going on there in regard to the state of unconsciousness, or... Low functioning consciousness.
It really almost feels like there's a lot of walking dead out there because they just go with whatever the flow is as opposed to going deeper into themselves and the nature of existence.
I sort of agree with your last comment. The conspiracy theorists who tend to believe in everything without critical thinking and deep effort tend to give the rest of us a bad name and make the general public even less willing to look at such kinds of things, however... I'm not sure that's worse than the general public being so apathetic in the first place, and I'm not sure if that's worse than the predatory actions of the "elite" so to speak though the intentions vary quite a bit! And there's a lot of blame to go around, but... I am reminded of a quote that goes something like... "It's good to be open minded, but no so open minded your brain falls out"... So, yeah... I agree with that. Like so many things in life there appears to be a balance and if you go too far in either direction you can have problems.