The News
This is the week that $HIVE dropped below 4c. It has been falling faster than certain other coins and that is sad to see. Despite that I do not see a mass panic here. People are not just here for the rewards. We have our communities here and it can be fun. Meanwhile 99.9999% of social media posting is not paying those people anything. The rewards are a bonus here, but we also have freedom and a platform that allows you to do properly formatted posts that are not hidden by algorithms. If you want to see what people post then you just follow them or join a common community. There may be the odd promoted post in your feed, but you have a lot of control. If you really do not want to see someone then you simply mute them.
Friday Follows
- @howo is a long-time Hive developer who works on the core code. He has put together an alternative implementation. This matters as the protocol should not just be defined by the existing code. This process has shown up some potential issues with that so it is useful. Hive needs to scale and that may be helped by using difference programming languages. His proposal is not currently funded so you can support that. He has reduced the amount requested.
- @hivepostify is a project by a young developer in Pakistan to provide a platform for people there. They have asked me for support, but I can only give so much. They aim to bring in a lot of new users, but I have said that you have to show that those people bring value to Hive. Check it out to see if you want to add support or even offer to help out. I would think we must have other developers in Pakistan.
- @seckorama is another person marking ten years on Hive. There will be a few more coming up as some of us have stuck with it all that time.
- @blanchy has been doing a deep dive into the change logs of some Hive projects to get some idea of what they have done for the funding they get. That is one measure of work, but what really matters is how we all benefit from that work.
The Dog House
During the latest Hive Thrive show there was some talk about a big Tiktok person being on-boarded to Hive and getting what was perceived as a hostile reception. I have not seen the actual post, but I know that a lot of new users get a comment from @hivewatchers. The ones I have seen are like this. I do not see that as being too bad. It does say "AI-Generated Content = Not Original Content" and opinions will differ on that, but I think most of us are interested in seeing posts by actual people. Some of those may use AI tools for images and to help with the text if they need it. I think that assistance ought to be mentioned so we can know what we are dealing with.
If you bring someone in then guide them through the early stages and reassure them if they get worried by comments like that. HW need to be open to working with the on-boarders to reduce the friction.
In general Hive needs to be a welcoming place if we want it to grow. We should not assume that new users are spammers/leeches/undesirable, especially not just based on where they come from. Most will have been on-boarded by an existing user and that person has some responsibility to set realistic expectations. A new user should not be expecting to instantly earn a lot, especially given the current price. Of course we want users who generate 'high value' posts, but they need an audience to give them votes and comments. So we need various types of Hiver in order to grow.
If someone joins and the first post has issues such as excessive AI, plagiarism etc then they ought to at least get a warning before the downvotes start. I know that some cases will be more obvious if they follow certain patterns, but we should try to scare away those who come here with wrong expectations and may be willing to be better Hivers.
'Protecting the reward pool' is all very well, but that is small change these days and we need more people here. At least give them a chance.
I have long thought that Hive communities should be a first stop for new users. If you can find people who share your interests then you will immediately have things to discuss. On other platforms this seems to work well. Just this week I found the above group on FB. That is 20k+ people sharing pictures of their cats on their guitar amplifiers. How niche can you get? Yet that is probably more than the total active users on Hive. If we can get a few niche groups of even a few hundred people onto Hive then it could kick something off. We just have to avoid putting them off from the start.
The End
I see a few people saw the eclipse this week. That is an example of the sort of thing we can have as a shared experience here. Always be thinking beyond your own posts to what can bring people together.
Hive is people!
BTW as I write this the images keep coming and going in the peakd editor. I hope they appear okay.
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I remember my first post on Steem was some YouTube video i uploaded about Bancor token. An account called @cheetah gave me a verbal warning and I was mortified. There definitely needs to be some sort of hand holding for newbies. Also i remember a crypto influencer joined a few years ago and she was chased with out of town with pitch forks from some of the Hive whales and it was a big deal at the time . The worry is they will take a good portion of the reward pool but surely the price would benefit.
I think that some of the 'gatekeepers' can be over-zealous. At least give newbies a chance. If they turn out to be evil then they can be dealt with. Maybe we need another welcome bot that gives more friendly advice.
There's too many welcome bots I think, we need more regular people checking those things out, it's a reason I created additional filters here: https://scrobble.life/discover for instance the "new author" one more people ought to check out from time to time.
Cheetah was a bot that auto-detected copied & pasted content.
Example:
https://hive.blog/cyberattack/@twr/tylertechnologiespaidransomwaredemand-tl60gt1fp9#@cheetah/cheetah-re-twrtylertechnologiespaidransomwaredemand-tl60gt1fp9
I read all of the posts you mentioned and some were real eye opening. @blanchy post in particular had me cleaning house on my witness votes.
Ghosts in the machine lol.
I'm also looking at accounts that are constantly powering down and sending hive to exchanges.
Flooding the exchanges with a token with zero demand is demented and short sighted. Oversupply is what is pushing hives price lower.
They will not be getting any votes from me.
On the upside. Now is a great time to accumulate more hive...get it while it's cheap. Not financial advice 😎😂👍
People can do what they want, but we also have choice with our votes.
Agreed people can do as they wish and we have choice with our votes.
The groups on Facebook are just nuts. I mean I've got some BBQ groups I am in that have a couple hundred thousand people. Then over here I think my community is under 100.
It is crazy how big some groups are, but then it may just be a core who are active. I only really stay on FB for a couple of groups.
Happy decade birthday for all of us - just realized it today #
Welcome to the club. It's been quite a trip. Hive endures despite the issues.
i have been absent for a couple of months, and back a couple of weeks ago, and noticed the price (and so bought some more.) Im female, we are known to be a sucker for a sale... lol lol lol...
But i do worry about finding new accounts and trying to vote for people that are trying to post and believe in hive and are not here to AI shitpost and run off with the rewards.
I was following an account for a while that i thought was interested in my art posts (which is what i mostly post about) and when i deep dove into his wallet and comments, i found that this person was writing very similar sounding comments on lots of peoples work, and then regualar as clockwork, he was power down the hive and his account was worth like $12 or something. So for a while i kept "replying" but not "voting" his comments... and low and behold... the comments stopped. and he has not commented on a post since...
anyway... just stopping by...
BLINGIT
There are people who do a lot of low quality comments, but they can't make much from that. I don't check every wallet, but I have some idea of who adds value here.
$HIVE is a bargain right now and so I hope some people are buying. We know the platform has value, but need others to know about it.
Have fun!
I'm glad I came across your post, reminds me to read howo's post. I bookmarked it for later, then life happened. Thanks!
It's nice to get this background. We have smart people working on it.
Although many cryptocurrencies are falling (probably because of world events), I was sorry to see you report that HIVE is falling even faster.
Although rewards aren't the most important aspect of Hive, for me, I get more here than I used to get on Medium where my posts were lucky to darn 2 cents and, of course, Medium don't do curation awards.
The value of my account has dropped a lot recently, but I'll stick with it anyway as it is fun here. I think many people would be better off here than on Medium or some other such platforms. Some of those will have a payout threshold that they cannot reach.
I agree. Also, I know a trusted poster who has been on Hive for about eight years but was blocked by Medium.
Do you think there is a price the nodes will stop running? The blockchain depends on a good amount of them running. I've heard that at hive we have 3 different types of nodes: API, P2P and Witness.
I really don't know. I think some people are not doing it to get paid and the cost may not be too high. We just need someone to keep these running.
Some use the amount to pay at least their node bills... So when the prices are down, I don't know the exact amount, but even the nodes could be at risk. The less amount of nodes is also a problem at any blockchain.
I invited a user I met on the Arena last year who was also big on DESO and it was like a gang initiation where they throw pennies on the ground and a pack of thugs take turns kicking them in the ribs while they try to pick them up.
He got immediately attacked and flagged and he never posted again.
That being said I stay out of stubbornness, stupidity, and for the love of the game 🎮
There are a lot of other ecosystems making it more inviting and easier to join.
There are some here who go looking for conflict and it does not help. It's all just people are some choose to be nasty.
I'm surprised they are still at it but i guess that's their sport. Instead of hitting a punching bag or lifting weights they are a crypto dust gangster.
Hive is a tiny pond in social media. Not a big deal to have power here really. I prefer to focus on positivity.
Yeah, it's interesting where the attention rotates to. Crypto Twitter has always been big and now stuff like FOMO and Pump Fun are major players.
I don't follow crypto stuff. I just look at some prices and don't trade.
It is much easier to stay and become part of HIVE community when people are willing to guide you instead of judging you immediately.
It has to come from both sides. Hive is what you make it.
Update: @steevc, I paid out 25.381 HIVE and 0.000 HBD to reward 16 comments in this discussion thread.
Hi.
In my opinion, it should be the onboarder's responsibility to educate their onboardees about AI usage and plagiarism. Many onboarders do not bother to teach the basics. Some expect hivewatchers to do their task.
I agree with that about onboarders, especially those who have long experience here. I get that you fight a constant battle, but I still think we need to try to avoid driving people away from the start. Not all will really understand how Hive is expected to work. There needs to be dialogue between the various parties involved if we want a chance to improve.