This is What Puts Hive on the Map!
3 months ago in Threespeak by theycallmedan (79)Founder
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A hive-exclusive trained ai would be a sight to behold. Only a god can imagine the monstrosity that would come out from a chain full of dumb, cringy, whiny and plagiarized content 🤭🤭
Wish you a speedy recovery
It would take, let's say, 1,000 links of data, condense it into a summarized form, and then post it in the most efficient manner. Using non-duplicate, so basically taking the most valuable GitHubs, etc., forming them into a dense, redundant free book for AIs to easily read. Sounds cool tbh
btw stay healthy bro, you are one of the reasons i still hold hive. If you would quit, i would sell out instantly.
you dont need a AI for that, a lora would be enough. Like Minimax 2.5 or kimi + hive data. That task would take like 1 day max of work.
Result? Like nothing ever happens.
We need to rework rewards, downvoting and max freedom of speech or the chain is dead.
If ppl cyclejerk each other ( new users) and this can damage the chain( lol) the rewards are to high. So instead of 14% on hive reduce it to 5% or 3%. Problem solved. No hivewatchers content curation needed.
But it also proves hyprocrathy of the cycle jerk whales on trending. They curate the chain to death. I showed a year ago the Milady community the chain, some did join and ( one bought 400k hive and insta sold again) after he realised how gay it is to post here.
Is bear market and price will go up again, but the movement will slow down a lot. And even i was bullish on 3spk, but imagine ppl post short clips and get targeted by retarded user killers.
Some other dudes ( 200k+ hive) are targeted too, who currently power down. The middleclass is leaving. Net buyers get fucked.
No net buyers and sky high inflation is a death spiral. Only chance is to fork the shit ( or update it fast). A lot of things are good but the impact the negative shit has is way to high.
You can compare it to pump fun rugs in negative feelings, not in financial loss for new users to get from the great Communist party told their opinion is not wanted.
Hive watchers tells users ( check the comments) you are not welcome to our community if you do this and that.
Thats retarded. And a lot of people realized it.
Rewards will be auto-burned anyway. And I am creating a Hive LLM, with every tool needed to perform the above. For now, I'll store it on IPFS until it is perfected, then start the transition to Hive. Only when the data is crisp, clean, in bulk, and redundancy-free will it ever touch the chain. I'll also check the chain for what info we already have and organize that. With HAF + Hive + AI, you have so much you can do in terms of data flexibility. Plus, people like me will have pretty much endless hard drive space, so I'll just be storing huge amounts of data, 100s of TB worth, personally myself, spending time distilling it all to its purest form. Right now, AIs scour the internet, searching various links, etc., which skips the middleman in the long run: all open source, all in one place, all Hive.
Some things that came in my mind after reading,
First since LLMs are retarded with large context, Hive would need "no comments allowed feature for other accounts. So only the poster can post.
Sure it can be filtered before, but that would keep it clean by default (can be the case it doesnt matter in 12 months if llms become smarter again). But it would also be a more beautiful solution. only matters if it is stored in a post ( what would make sense from searchability. And yeah nobody can spam Attack knowledge.
Second i think a dictionary style is needed ( like Version numbers) to link to the stuff is connected. Overall is sad we dont have a hive github ( since we already fund front ends massive, would be not that hard to add). I know we had one in the past but it did shut down. A opensource version of it would be very powerful ( also rollbacks super easy since everything can be tracked, value is unlimited).
Third, In case of scraping, you have a lot of ways to do, oldschool was using scrapebox and clean data after. Now with coding so easy, a own crawler can work really well ( hive crawler) and a centralized point like your archive stuff to filter for duplicates. A truth engine.
Most important IMO is it much be super easy to filter and search this database since this is essential to have fun with the data.
So yeah, i am bullish on this shit. But one thing always is pain, it needs a revenue model besides printing tokens. I could imagine a subscription model to rent RC to post and ppl be like " fuck hive i can store my shit for fiat or BTC/ETH/stablecoins).
Would be something interesting to invest in ( like a seed), i mean thats pretty cool shit and with revenue advertisement on the right places to the right people is easy to do.
Keep going hive hero!
You might do that, but Smooth and BT won't.
Hive price collapsed during the crypto bull market also. From bear low of .26 to .10
The same period bitcoin went from 16K to 126K, ETH went from $995 to $4990 and so on. The alt coins are not participating anymore. Even the cryptos that went up , most didn’t touch close to 2021 ATH’s. Hive is heading for a penny u less major changes are made. I would buy 500K hive if there was even a sign of higher prices. We went down way over 50% in bull market and are so far down 35% just since Bitcoin topped, we have no more “Bull Cycle”. Not just Hive but most cryptos are finally not blindly following Bitcoin. We are in bad shape and need full on reform & re-brand to even consider having a brighter future.
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If you know the cause (some Chinese exchange) you know.
Price has been collapsing for years. That has nothing to do with a single exchange. Maybe I misunderstand what u mean?
yes but the oct event absorbed billions out of all altcoins additional to hive problems.
Hive itself is on a decline by design.
Pro tip, make a new account, post a meme, check what happen. This is how to make the funnel retarded:
marketing to signup ---> pay sign up fee ----> get user to use the platform ---> make user to quit platform.
As a company want to build on hive you pay twice, 1 time marketing, 1 time sign up fee ( at scale its expensive).
And user experience is so bad. With all this nanny handling of people. It reminds me of the communist party of china of Delegated Dictatorship.
the worst part is, its not needed to be this way...
HF28 made it easier to deplete VP for whales by upvoting HBDfunder comments and maximize their curation rewards with less effort. Less than 10% of rewards currently go to authors, and it will be so easy for AI to simply outcompete human posters to completely eliminate human beings creating content for rewards here, that I think it is extremely unlikely for Hive to remain useful at all to people. There's only about 2000 of us left here now, because the platform has been increasingly focused on rewarding the fattest wallets and eliminated the utility of the platform to people.
It's pretty much over but the plunge in token value to sub-penny valuations that will eliminate the utility of mining tokens and make running a witness node a losing proposition. Eventually an AI agent will accumulate all the Hive tokens, and those tokens will have zero value at all.
yeah it doesnt matter so much tbh, if the coin hits 0 lmao.
btw i tell you this because i think you have enough influence to bring shit in the right direction. Like make a campaign, let people delegate you the proxy vote and you get some leverage over retarded shit.
Did you see the dude working on Smart media tokens? A core dev from hive started attacking him for doing it. Thats not decentralized at all.
You definitely don’t need AI for this.
With all respect, can we please stop with the click-bait game changer spin.
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Imagine Hive users would be so stupid to punish the only usecase it has, freedom of speech.
Imagine Posting a meme is "forbidden". No News, No Fun, No new members ( like networking).
Imagine this is by design and it will never change and we see 3 cent Hive soon.
Imagine also the dev that builds on Core funded by DAO has a bot that converts all HBD he gets and auto sends it to mexc.
Imagine that and the funny part, is all for 0 reason. Prevent spam = kill users that want to spam each other with memes and retarded shit. Thats what social media is.
Hive is the retarded version of it, ppl stay here because they are bagholders or want to earn some pennies for posting.
TBH, 3 cent hive sounds pretty legit.
.03 cents is certain the next 18 months.
Barring any kind of massive changes. I’m so tired of the whales and witnesses & devs funded by DHF pretending things are great. We have bled users & price & all u see is devs making ridiculous claims like saying HBD will soon be the most used stable coin. One dev said this at hive fest 2025. It’s reached peak nonsense. I am here hoping others will realize we need a full admission of where we are but I continue to be disappointed and shown it’s 99% just fantasy talk.
1 whale decides what DAO is funding. They all are in 1 slack chat voting together. Is not a secret.
Is a personal warchest at this point. Users have no freedom of speech ( the sell point). No memes, no fun, no community building and third-world rewarding.
It is what it is. The rug of liquidity from market makers last oct fucked alts.
The worst is the selling of people get money from DAO, like they work on shit that generates 0 revenue.
Or the hive agent funding. 100$ a day to bully of new users ( or older net buy users).
This!
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Wooooooo 🙌🙌🙌
U did it! ❤️
Glad to have u back after your successful surgery.
(4) chatgtp is very biased.
They had a deal with medium, and now they redirect medium blogs. Not sure if chatgtp will redirect to peakd. Gemini gives wrong non clickable links and hallucinates too, giving fake posts, links and usernames that don't exist.
Hopefully it gets fixed.
It won’t. No this does not put Hive on the map. With respect, it’s getting very tiresome seeing posts weekly that say things like “This Puts Hive On The Map”. It’s just bogus every time.
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I was listening to the video.
I mentioned how chatgtp and medium.com did a deal.
I mentioned how Gemini hive links are hallucinations.
How is your comment related to what u replied to?
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This is it.
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First time hearing someone sharing in depth about their surgery. Never in my life in 26 years heard anyone sharing in-depth about the surgery. It gives a different kinds of vibes. Can't describe it but it's something...
(3) lol 😂😆
The rise of AI
I kept telling them our database is king, the bears don't listen xD
If the cowz aint blind, they will be after this!
The path does seem clear my friend... this was fire!
Minimax 2.5 is king btw ( close to claude) and is cheap as fuck.
Kimi good too and in combination with claude ( and swarm them to delegate tasks) the real magic begins. GLM 5 ( king too).
Cluster that shit = power. Now imagine this would post on Hive like the chat history. A decentralized DOC for AI.
This is what i think ( like clawdbot) but in cool and decentralized could be nuts. Send more Agents to the directionary and let more work on 1 big vision. Thats building on scale.
I stop spam now otherwise the hive agents attack me again lmao
youre good, feedback/input always welcome thanks
yeah, I enjoy your content.
A hive agent cluster is something i have in mind to go full crazy. One roadmap, connect agent, send to master file, let them build together. Let them write every step onchain so other agents can same time fix code ( or review it).
Skynet on hive. 100B marketcap easy ( sure chain would need to scale with demand on RC)
LOL AI agents buying in on the last exchange?
in a case hive would fix all shit, ppl have fun, Ai can use it like githib like an everything app, it could hit 100B marketcap.
But for this way, more pain is needed. Die or thrive ( odds to die are higher ofc).
The problem with AI swarms and databases that can change is that the owner of the website can change the content and the behavior. So it makes sense to have it distributed.
But, if hive is gay with inflation on 1000 other places and has no additional value, its easier to fork the important sections, leave curation, rewards, and all that shit out, and have a neutral layer of information.
Is up to the whales; they can kill it or not. But coders are in 99,9% of cases not the best business people. Is most times, people expect them to be smart. But they are not.
Curation is retarded by design and should not be the core anyway. it should make like 1% of the chain and not everything around it. Eyeballs is money, not some retard likes a post.
Rewards are necessary. Curation rewards are not.
Exactly correct.
And the critical value Hive creates is bringing the eyeballs, creating content that brings viewers and new users to the platform. Everything is instead stripping all value by the ~36 whales that suck all the rewards from the platform because they have a bare majority of stake. This is the fundamental underlying flaw that has deranged curation, misapplied rewards, and caused Hive to dwindle to ~2000 users while social media became the largest financial sector in global markets.
Thanks!
but there will be a Hive like chain for this. 100% but as a neutral carrier of information like the internet was supposed to be.
This could be a non human chain ( some skynet shit lmao). No rewards, no curration, just information.
Who cares what toasters do? Society is people.
Hive to the moon
btw Dan, Hive need to adopt to the concept of eyeballs = value. This + freedom of speech was always a powertool. Look twitter, rewards on twitter compared to other social media platforms are low ( they censor too). Besides that ppl post memes, news, random shit, interesting shit ( everything).
Build a feed, click around and get another layer of reward ( like an advertisement). The Front ends are Net negative ( DAO paid ones). Imagine they would get money from advertisers via HBD and pay it out to their own algo to users.
Same time reduce inflation of voting massive ( to a point it has no impact on user experience that feels biased as fuck).
From here scaling can happen. TBH i think a fork is needed for this. Same tech, other rules ( can be same holders).
So the true value of Hive is RC and not the power over other users.
btw, meanwhile watching your video and you talk about health, i remember we had really ahead of the curve content here in covid times that got bullied off.
dear first and last , i am very happy to see you , may Allah bless you good health, my comment is only that great great ,i only want to see your good health, i am very happy to see you back after surgery, your every text is our power
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Holy crap man, that sounds like one hell of an ordeal! Glad to see you managed to bit just pull through, but to go full alchemist and turn this experience into gold. That’s the true measure of one’s soul!
Even though I’ve never been the best creator, I’ve always seen the true value of what we’ve built in Hive, and it’s far beyond any price you could attach to it. In a world of corporate empires controlling the online space, we’ve survived as a cooperative community based entity, and carved out a unique space that’s truly ours. Something that most still think impossible, which is why I share your old hackermoon article about the takeover with so many people.
Currently I’m still working on a fictional story based on Hive, but it’s a revelation of skaters fighting back against the ai that took over the world. Ai drove skaters underground by affecting their social credit scores for skating, but then an anonymous hacker named Shredtoshi Gnarlymoto, gifts us the code to tokenize our stoke for skating, creating Stoken, and allowing skaters to survive outside the system.
I also have an idea that I could use some help with, involving connecting Hive to skateshops, to help compete against Amazon underselling with cheap knockoff boards, and keep the industry alive while onboarding them to Hive.
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I am happy to hear your surgery went well. I hope it is the last time you must suffer it, and your health is permanently improved to the degree possible by what has been achieved.
When I hear people talking about AI relative to Hive, I note that the potential for AI to replace people posting, voting, and aquiring stake presents an existential risk to Hive of eliminating people that cannot more efficiently acquire stake than algorithms. Eliminating users will destroy society, which is comprised only of people.
Hive is already so bad as meeting the needs of people to interact socially that there are only about 2000 people still using the platform. It will be so easy to make it less useful for organic interaction between people that it will be extremely likely to replace these last few diehards and completely eliminate Hive's utility to human beings. I'm not here to interact with toasters, and I have no interest in socializing with any people that are.
AI competing for tokens has zero utility to society, and eliminating people from Hive will render it absolutely useless to people as a means of governing themselves and speaking freely. I hope this does not happen, but I am not optimistic. HBDfunder comments reveal that significant stake on Hive has no concern for society at all, and this suggests that stake will employ AI to suck all the tokens out of the reward pool and eliminate people from Hive. I hope you competently prevent that from happening. If you don't, it was nice sharing this platform with you while we were both here.
Thanks!
I am not sure if I understood him wrong but according to my understanding, he was talking about AI staking power for RC requirements and using json transactions to store data on hive. It had nothing to do with the reward pool. Managing a database is expensive so why not use hive's free database? Another thing he talked about was using AI to teach devs so they can create hive tools faster.
None of that matters unless there are people here using Hive to interact personally.
"...stake will employ AI to suck all the tokens out of the reward pool and eliminate people from Hive."
That's what I said, and HBDfunder comments show that the fattest wallets on Hive are depleting their VP upvoting those comments 100% until they have maximized their curation rewards - without upvoting one author one satoshi of rewards. ~36 whales currently extract ~99% of all rewards issuing from the pool, and ~1964 of us split the remaining ~1% of rewards. The whales have claimed 100s of thousands of accounts. AI trained to harvest rewards from the pool using those sock puppets will be able to extract all rewards with mathematical precision that human beings cannot compete with.
That will make every human being on Hive obsolete, and that will destroy all of Dan's work, all of your work, and Hive.
I wished you safe surgery and I am glad that you are back. I am wishing you no more surgery in Jesus name Amen. Please how is your darling loyal wife?
After watching the video, I think the cowz need to accept this.
Welcome back sir.
Glad you are doing ok!
Have you had any discussions at all with @taskmaster4450 or @khaleelkazi?
Khal is already building an AI called Rafiki and I believe (not 100% up to date on things) that they intend to grow it out from InLeo threads to blogs, then to all of Hive. The more the merrier as far as I am concerned!😀
I'm thankful to have you go and back very sound. That's God's grace!
would love a transcript of this video to feed into LLM and ask it questions to dumb it down for me
Something worthwhile to read
Why do we need Hive, when we have bitcoin??
@shortsegment answers this question in his article about Hive being the social media mirror of bitcoin! Amazing idea and very cool, makes me think about hive completely different.
This whole discussion about Hive makes a lot of sense, and fits perfectly with my current project, building a local version of openclaw on a macmini, and now you have given me the idea to create a book of prompts to program this autonomous AI agent with agentic AI capabilities into an autonomous Hive accoutn.
replied to 1:29 on 3speak.tv
This is the link to my openclaw AI project: https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@shortsegments/running-openclaw-ai-on-an-intel-macmini-le
You may want to also look at the bitcoin mirror article, which talkks about hive being the mirror image of bitcoin but not for financial sovereignty but social media sovereignty
replied to 3:45 on 3speak.tv