Awesome, I just replied with this on a post from @krabgat.
"those with no rights to be here should return to their country" Thank You Nicolas Sarkozy. Clearly defining what it means to be a Nation with a Government. If you don't want to export illegals, you should be honest with yourself and admit you don't want a law enforcement agency(Government).
In a "nation" without government (and by extension law), property doesn't exist, which mean to stay on the piece of land where you live, you have to either defend that right yourself (guns/whatever) or move as someone might take it as his own, since... well... he can do that since there is nothing forbidding him to do it.
That's why the archeological record shows many violent death in neolithic (when man first settled to become farmers and subsequently accessed to property...), that was definitely before nation/government/army existed but led to creation of army and government so people can sleep on their 2 ears...)
Defensive robots are an option for protection... right?
Maybe I just don't know what you are trying to get at...
"Being illegal is OK" or "We should have some kind of Government"?
If you think a Government should exist, I am not opposed to your logic; so long as you also think illegals should be deported or killed.
If you think a Government should not exist, that would mean you are an anarchist. Have fun looking forward to the UN designating a landmass appropriate for people who are not citizens of any nation.
actually you are the one who have been linking government to blocking immigration... Don't put that on me.
Actually that's called a fallacy: counterattacking or attacking an argument based on your linking of 2 things which have no relationship (government/immigration)
For info where I was getting was "why governments exist"
People who enter into the borders of a defined "government" through processes not approved by that "government" are called many things:
attacker, aggressor, raider, marauder, occupier, conqueror. intruder, interloper
But I like to think of them as expirt infiltrators, I have a lot to learn from.
"you are the one who have been linking government to blocking immigration"
Well, I don't know of any private businesses that are up for such a challenge.
And, I don't think government will be providing services to people who don't have an SS#.
I still don't know what your "argument" is, so I don't know what I am counterattacking or attacking?
I will also note that people cannot illegally immigrate from one "government" to another if no "governments" exist. If a "government" has no migration laws can we really call it a "government". I don't think we can do anything about that relationship.