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RE: New Hive Spam Network

in #anti-abuse4 years ago (edited)

the list is public, you can view it. There is a guy who spans dick pics you might be interested in.

I'll add fulltimegeek was never added, only the accounts that spammed. If your theory was true he would have been added as well. He was never even on the blacklist. In fact, you would have been on it ages ago if that was true.

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So did @joe.public just spam, that's what got him on the list?

Another thing, why do these blacklists need to be so deeply embedded in the architecture?

These spams and such will make it onto the blockchain anyway, right? Why not just serve up the whole thing and let the frontend pick and choose?

Ideally then the end-user could even manage their personal blacklist.

Is it because node operators don't want to serve shady content or what?

I'm not accusing you of anything.

I remember iflagtrash, that was definitely spam.

I personally am pro normalizing flags/downvotes. Just seems like the opposite of a vote to me.

"I could tell you more"

I'm listening.

@themarkymark says you libeled him or whatever. Is this just a nepotism battle or what?

It does kind of sound like collusion between bernie and him the way you and others tell it.

He seems to me curiously tight lipped about the whole thing. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.

I know for a fact that @fulltimegeek was on that list, because I saw his account on it. I know for a fact he personally posted a copious quantity of spam, at least matched by Bernie.

I have never spammed anyone. Ever.

I am disagreeable, on that I agree.

I do not know if you simply miss-recall or if you are deliberately misstating facts, but @fulltimegeek was on that list.

Bernie, on the other hand, kept spamming for a long time after that, which is why you have @joe.public on that list now, because he responded to that spam.

Answering comments isn't spam unless the original comments are spam, and Bernie isn't on the list, so you must reckon his comments weren't spam. All the more ridiculous you consider replies to it to have been spam.

Get @joe.public off that list, or continue to reveal the danger of censorship without community control to everyone that posts on Hive.

Your censorship may be the most dangerous threat to the Hive community extant. Put that power in public control and cease being a threat of centralized censorship to this community.

It is exactly the same threat Sun Yuchen was to Steem, except his view of governance and censorship differed from yours. It's the identical threat, for different reasons.

I know for a fact that @fulltimegeek was on that list, because I saw his account on it. I know for a fact he personally posted a copious quantity of spam, at least matched by Bernie.

Well as usual, you are full of shit. The entire blacklist is available on Github with versions, history, and is searchable.

https://github.com/themarkymark-steem/buildawhaleblacklist

He was never on the list. So quit your bullshit and go play somewhere else.

That is not the #irredeemables list.

That is the list I referred to. While you should rescind your unkind comments about me due to their inaccuracy, I don't care if you do or not. Your comments are about you.

My comments reveal me. I have spoken factually and accurately regarding this issue. I have refrained from ad hominems. You have made false claims, misstated facts, and personally maligned me.

If I were you, you'd be on the list by now.

This is the harm undertaking solitary power to censor people is doing to you. I strongly urge you to stop harming yourself psychologically by keeping this power your personal fief. Do the right thing and enable a public vote on #irredeemables list inclusion.

Do it for your own safety and health, if not to protect Hive from censorship.

He was never on that either.

Welp, I can't prove it, and he ain't tellin'. His accounts are the entirety of the list at it's inception, save for one account of Bernie's, which means I misspoke when I said Bernie was never sanctioned.

For my mistake I apologize.

I still think @fulltimegeek account was on that list, or some other mechanism prevented his posting and commenting of which I am unaware. Your coyness with factual information at your disposal does you no credit, and strongly discounts your veracity.

Stop.Censoring.People.Because.Of.Their.Opinions.

Get @joe.public off that list. He's no spammer, and censoring him does no good to Hive. In fact, it does the opposite, and degrades strongly any claim it can make to censorship resistance, and that at your hands.

The entire list and it's history is here

https://github.com/steemit/irredeemables

It is owned and operated by Steemit Inc.

I added tons of people to that list and they were hurting people. Example

steemitdefenceleague https://stish.io/the-steemit-defence-league-is-stopping-the-top-trolls-fake-abuse-reporters-and-i-have-decided-to-help-them/

I would have added many more, I will not mention those names but abuse was rampant at steem and its the same here.

Yeah, I just reviewed it's initial state, as I mention above.

The URL is not the factual information of which I speak. Deeds done in darkness reveal the injustice of the doers. Let the light of public knowledge inoculate you from that threat of disgrace.

Protect Hive from secret malfeasance of bad actors by doing your job in the full light of public knowledge. If you care, if you can, you will.