Blacklisted on Hive

in #blacklist4 years ago

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So, I found myself blacklisted on Hive “with no chance of appeal.” Apparently, I am a plagiarist, and have been since 2018.

And here I was, thinking I was adding value to the platform with my research on the plants around me, sharing the much needed humour, and educating people with my ‘words of wisdom’. I guess I thought too highly of myself.

Since there is no chance of appeal, I will not waste my time on that. How do you convince a shadow who has thought the worst of you, that you are not the person he thinks you are? A waste of time, really.

I will take some time off. Maybe come back with a different identity and post other stuff. No more humour and quotes, since they were the ones that got me into trouble in the first place. Apparently, I am supposed to credit the source where they are from.

I have explained to them that quotes are not copyrighted. And the source, if they must know is actually, my blog. All the jokes and quotes in my posts were taken from there - https://anetizen.blogspot.com/. Unfortunately, those were not good enough reasons.

Anyway, I will still be lurking in the shadows for the time being, before I decide my next course of action. In the meantime, I will also be exploring the other platforms on the blockchain. Maybe I will find one that is more appreciative of my efforts.

Cheers!

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Dearest Vincent, I just had a conversation with guilty parties over in the Discord and he made it much more clear to me what their position is. The quotes that you use are great, but they feel that 50% of your post, at least, should be written in your own words. I think an example of that is how Galenkp uses a quote in his Viking posts and then writes about 1000 words expressing his thoughts. . I can see @Hivewatchers position here. I would support you 100% if you want to change the format of your posts. I already know what an intelligent writer you are!

Dear Melinda,

Thank you very much for your support and the time spent talking to guiltyparties and Hivewatchers. I appreciate that very much.

I guess if they had mentioned their expectations in the first place, and used a 'gentle reminder', I would have no problem understanding their stand. They definitely could have dealt with the matter a little better.

So, I guess I am still on the blacklist? As such, I don't see the point in continuing to post with this account. I have opened a new account. https://ecency.com/@netizen01/posts A new start on a clean slate.

Thank you once again for speaking out on my behalf.

Yours sincerely,
Vincent

I'm following your new account I am excited to see you be open minded enough to start again in a new direction. Onward and upward! ♥️

I can never say thank you enough for speaking up on my behalf. I am very grateful to you for that.

Well, that's a bummer! I've always enjoyed the quotes. Thanks for brightening many of my mornings, Vincent.

I am pleased to hear that, Jon. Thank you for your support all these time.

Yes, a bummer. But it's not the end of the world. Now, it is back to the drawing board. 😊

Hi Vincent,

I can't understand that. I have had the same problem twice on the Blockchain we have been before. One was a photo I have posted (the heart shaped cloud) which can be found on several pages on the internet and the other one was a poem I have posted on another account of mine.
But I could explain them all in discord and proof I am the photographer and the author. I think your website should be proof enough. I would talk to them again. Hopefully you can sort it out, my friend, good luck 🤞


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Thank you for your suggestion. We shall see what happens next. Thank you for your support. It means a lot to me.

Thanks for all the beers and wines and pizzas too. 👍😊

Sorry for my late reply. There are real people behind hivewatchers. I believe you can talk to them and really hope that soon you will tell us about something positive 🤞👍
In the meantime, have a wonderful weekend Vincent 🌞


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No worries Johann.

Thank you for your encouragement. I think maybe it is better off to make another new start. I will take some time off first and decide what I want to do next.

Yes, it would be great if I can buy beer and pizza with the tokens. We shall see. Maybe the day will come. I will thank you while I drink my beer and eat my pizza. 😊

You have a great weekend too!

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Ohh, that's sad. I find your content motivating

Thank you @nainaztengra. That means a lot to me. 😊

This platform is going to lose more bloggers! The real culprits are still blogging without being detected! I guess people had to make a living during this hard times.

They should have given you a warning first before making the judgement. Some Thai bloggers are also singled out without any valid reason. They are at a loss and confused over the matter. This bot is too much of a robot without human finesse. The bot should make a report then a human could intervene and make the final decision. This way it’s human to human conversation; not bot’s power over human beings! Future world war will arise because of bots and robots!

Take care.

Thank you for you understanding and support. I appreciate that. 😊

Don't worry about the downvotes.. we will always support you !

Thank you! 😊👍

your current post also commands $2 Hive... not bad

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Sorry to hear that @quotes-haven, I would not give up so easy as @johannpiber said if you can prove it have it out with them. I wish you good luck keep us informed buddy 👍

In the mean time keep upvoting you will still get some hives till you sort things out.

Thank you @kohsamui99

Thank you for your kind words and support. I feel like starting afresh, if they will allow me. We shall see. If not, I will be back posting on this account again. I am blacklisted, not banned. 😊

Keep us updated good luck my friend 👍

Thank you. Yes, I will give an update on the situation at a later date. 😊👍

Cheers buddy take care hear from you soon 👍

I'm sorry to hear that. I think you can contact them on discord to solve it. We don't want to see people leaving Hive.
Hope your blacklist will be removed.

Thank you for your support. I think it would be a waste of time. Anyway, I feel like starting over again. 😊

Sorry, I didn't understand that you were blacklisted ...
I liked your posts.
Email me about your news!
I hope that your problem will be resolved as a result.
Patience and all the best to you!

I don't understand either. 😊 But, never mind.

Thank you for your support and well wishes.

That is simply ridiculous. I have been following you and loving your quote posts since the early days and suddenly someone who thinks they are God at @hivewatchers wants to feel powerful? I don't get it. I have lost all faith in that group.

Hi Melinda,

Their contention is that I took the quotes from websites without sourcing the sites.

I explained that I have been collecting quotes since I was in primary school, from sources like books, and magazines like 'Readers Digest' - you would have heard of them, I don't know the hivewatchers are old enough to have heard of them. I have also explained that quotes are not copyrighted. And if they need to know my source, the quotes are actually all from my blog - which I started in 2006 as a way of saving my collection in one place.

There are a couple of articles which I wrote that has got quotes in them, and a post which have references from sites which I didn't was necessary to source. They find that unacceptable.

As much as anything else, it's the way, they dealt with the matter that leaves a bad taste. They don't listen to explanations, and they don't try to understand what happened. They don't even take the rest of my posts into consideration. There is no dialogue. Just 'you are blacklisted with no chance of appeal.' Case shut. Next!

I see you have questioned their decision. Let's see what they come back with. Thank you for your support and for speaking out for me.

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I have always been a Hivewatchers supporter and felt there was a need for them, but as I watch them drive more and more accounts away it has become obvious to me that they have become a negative to the growth of Hive. You have done nothing wrong. Many people use quotes and tracking down all of the posts with quotes will become a monumental task for Hivewatchers if that is a direction they are choosing to take.

I agree with you. There is a need for Hivewatchers, and they have a job to do. I do understand that they might be overloaded with work. But still, they should have handled the occasion with a bit more heart, and understanding. Let's see if they reply to your question. Otherwise, no big deal. It is not the end of the world. Thanks for your support, once again.

Hello.

The so-called quotes have never been quoted or mentioned that they are quotes.

https://hive.blog/hive-123046/@quotes-haven/what-is-beauty
https://hive.blog/hive-127788/@quotes-haven/callistemon
https://hive.blog/hive-111011/@quotes-haven/sarcasm-0511990baa45c

These recent posts were mostly made up of these stolen writings with no citation of any sort.
The user has been scamming with plagiarism since 2018 and has refused to stop.
The user knows what he has been doing.

https://hive.blog/upvoteplankton/@quotes-haven/5z9mwi-food-for-thought
https://hive.blog/upvoteplankton/@quotes-haven/3f52bw-today-s-jokes
https://hive.blog/minnowuprising/@quotes-haven/6gcfzb-laughter-the-best-medicine
https://hive.blog/upvoteplankton/@quotes-haven/failed-signs

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I understand that you might have an emotional attachment to this account/user but please don't support and vouch for persistent plagiarists.

I think you are wrong and have overstepped. I have lost all respect for Hivewatchers.

We treat everyone equally and have no exceptions when it comes to abuse, just because some known hiveians would like their favorite users to have special treatment when they are caught with abuse and blacklisted.
This case has been treated just like thousands of other similar cases.

If you don't see a problem with someone exploiting and abusing Hive by effortlessly stealing the content of other people, so he can post it as own content to farm rewards, then there is nothing we can do to change your opinion.

Will you attempt to take on and blacklist everyone who uses a quote in their post?

There is a contest planned for later this week for quotes. A clear rule from @Hivewatchers would be appreciated. Does anyone using a quote get blacklisted or only certain people? Are some quotes allowed and others not? @quotes-haven attributes the quote to the person who said it. What more do you require?

@guiltyparties Could we get an explanation as to why quotes are suddenly not allowed?