Win.Hive Giveaway being put on Pause.

in #contests4 months ago

Hey all...

I know that many of you all love the giveaways here on Hive, as do I. But a certain portion of the Hive community believes that their way to Hive is the only way to Hive and have decided to target my giveaways for down votes.

So for now, I will be pausing the giveaway.

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Sorry to hear this. Not really sure what is the reason behind it. Did you get an explanation at least?

Yes, they said contests where the prize was a fraction of the earnings were frowned on. Apparently, the $0.50 per day I made on a good day was going to break Hive. !lolz

Thanks for your support! Hopefully you won at least a few times!

I fail to see the difference between what you are doing and the prizes being offered. Doesn't Hive Basic Income work on the same principal of redistributing a fraction of what they bring in? Why is one allowed and the other not?

That is not at all how Hive SBI works. Hive SBI is account-level curation. You curate an account for ongoing support, and you receive back your 50% curation share as ongoing support on your own account.

Isn't voting the same as curating?
And isn't it also giving back part of what you put in?
I'm having a hard time seeing the difference.
I mean... it's not like Hive Basic Income is giving out its own money, is it? It's own account is not shrinking with each gift.
Besides... why censor any pages that do no harm?

Isn't voting the same as curating?

Yes, voting is curating.

And isn't it also giving back part of what you put in?

When you upvote content, you get 50% of the payout value back as curation rewards. When you sponsor via Hive SBI and it gives upvotes on your behalf, you receive that 50% back as upvotes on your own content instead.

I'm having a hard time seeing the difference.
I mean... it's not like Hive Basic Income is giving out its own money, is it? It's own account is not shrinking with each gift.

Hive SBI isn't 'giving out' any money at all. It is delivering the upvotes that have been contracted by members of the community who sponsor those accounts for ongoing support. Sometimes that support results in money, but not always, and there is no guarantee (or even promise) that it will. (The delivered votes use up your pending vote value once they are delivered, not when the content pays out, and there is no refund of that vote value if the content doesn't pay out.)

Besides... why censor any pages that do no harm?

I have no idea. I wasn't part of the downvotes against this giveaway. Since it was using Hive SBI for prizes, one could argue that it was curating accounts based on luck/randomness instead of for the quality of their content. If the downvoters made a case, I didn't see it. I was merely responding to the argument that this giveaway was the same as Hive SBI, which it is not.

Thanks for explaining the subtle differences, but I still think they are close enough, since the lottery page was giving out prizes of Hive Basic Income sponsorships (which distribute votes based on the sponsorship rather than on the strength of content quality).
So if the argument is about content quality, then both cases ignore that aspect before giving the vote.

Like I said, if the content doesn't hurt anyone, then why censor it? Obviously those who participate in the contest think the content is valuable enough to give it their vote, yet certain individuals think that their opinion is more important than that of others and will impose their opinion regardless of what others may think. That is not a free and democratic situation. I was never asked to vote on whether or not this type of content should be banned from the site, so consensus was never achieved nor even asked for. Decentralization and freedom of expression is a lie.

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For a community that claims to be censorship free, this certainly looks like censorship to me! Without the ideology behind their reason for down-voting put to a general vote, the decision to down-vote was not democratically decided upon. Thus, a handful of people pretend to represent 'the community'. So from now on, when you read that the community of HIVE decided on something, you can interpret that to mean that a few whales decided on their own! This has been the case since before HIVE was born.

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It's really unbelievable that exactly here people are putting a censorship! Isn't it exactly the lack of this, I mean people can do whatever they like best, is the reason and motive behind decentralization?!

Probably it's done by some whales, giving each other big upvotes and not supporting the idea that somebody else makes some bucks as well... Even though they know that for most of us there are only a few crumbles left....

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So sorry to hear this, I only just discovered your account and giveaways. There are many accounts doing giveaways and such, not sure if others will be targeted too. It is disheartening to hear about this type of thing. I wish you well and hope you can resume providing this opportunity again sometime. Ty for posting.

So sad to read this. Waiting for ur post

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