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RE: You will never make money preventing others from making money!

in #dev5 years ago (edited)

We kindly ask you to remove your downvotes. You're free to do whatever you like, but attacking people for moving on into #NewSteem is not the right move. We're all in the same ship and we want the STEEM price to rise again. Buying votes is not the answer, the past 2 years should be enough of an experience. If you'd like to talk, so we can understand each other's viewpoints better, you can find us on discord: https://discord.gg/7sDBuqf

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Lol, the irony,...

I would like to take you seriously @freebornangel, but your never-ending salty behaviour is repulsive. How about actually doing something useful for Steem, besides being disappointed about everyone and everything on here.

Well, he's been flagging with SFR since the beginning. Before free flags. Before EIP.

Think about that for a moment.

You can blame stimiliati for that,...more irony.

I would like to take you seriously, @therealwolf, but your never ending profiteering of the commons is repulsive.
How about putting out real content, or fund your work through the sps, rather than reap the rewards we are supposed to be attracting newbs with?

My disappointment centers on the sellers.
Until they stop getting rewards, we are doomed to a falling price.

All these career steem people are hilarious...

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Not shitting on the floor is a good thing, but to claim you are all better now, while still shitting on the floor is too doublethinc for me.

Agreed, and if I'm being honest I want to smack Mr. Double speak in sheep's clothing! Muting people with opinions u don't like is weak. Af

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Lol, they can't help it, their significant others have their balls in a purse.

For the record.Screenshot_20191022-185601.png

He put me on his blacklist, that is eve worse

His stake is tainted, you don't need the karma that comes with it.
He should burn it, imo.

He muted me as well he is a real pussy

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Yeah, that's a class snob for you.

I cannot see a direct correlation between bid bots and the price of steem falling. Instead, it's apparent even spammers were buying steem. All ROI from bid bots goes directly to steem power (its not liquid!!) and thus increases the size of the reward pool.

One the flipside, downvoting in general and for whatever reason upsets people and makes them leave steemit and sell their steem.

But I doubt you'll do the math, even if I showed it to you.

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even spammers were buying steem

Yeah, they buy that initial few hundred or whatever and just use the "profits" to continue to bid. You obviously have no clue how those bots work. Nobody would use the bots if they didn't offer a return.

All ROI from bid bots goes directly to steem power (its not liquid!!) and thus increases the size of the reward pool.

Horseshit. They have to pay their delegators. Do you know why many are always powering down?

But I doubt you'll do the math, even if I showed it to you.

You math? Last time I checked, you make "dictionaries". I can name at least two entities that bought more STEEM than your sorry spammers since the HF. The real math here is most the whales prefer to cash out faster than people buying/creating value.

You leaving won't make a difference.

Lol I do a lot more than that! Here's the math breakdown from an article I wrote back when it was still 75/25. Let's see if you can follow it. ROI is impossible now at 50/50. One would naturally be powering down if One uses bid bots so that One can reinvest. Why stop that cash cow???

https://steemit.com/steem/@artopium/i-admit-i-use-the-upvote-bots-and-here-s-why

Bots Are Not What You Expect. Let’s Do The Math.

Regardless of the bot you use, you will be lucky to get a 300% upvote. More likely you will get 250%, which is what I found the average to be. So let’s say you pay an upvote bot 1 SBD, and in return you get a $2.5 STU upvote. Hey, pretty good, right? Not quite. Only 75% of that is yours, the rest goes to curation. So you get $1.875. However, that’s not 1.875 SBD, that’s 1.875 STU (Steem Token Units), which is split 50/50 into SBD and Steem Power. So that’s a return of 0.9375 SBD to the 1 SBD you paid. You just lost 0.0625 SBD. What about that Steem Power? Well that’s not 0.9375 Steem Power either. That’s $0.9375 USD worth of Steem Power, which of course depends on the current market price of Steem. As of this writing the price of Steem is currently at $3.21 USD. That means that’s an earning of 0.292056 Steem Power. If we were to magically convert that back into SBD without having to go through the 104 week power down process (at the time of this writing 1 SBD costs 1.02 SP which is nearly equal) we can say we earned a total of 1.23 SBD for the 1 SBD spent, but the earnings have gone straight to Steem Power, and are therefore not liquid, not something you can walk away with, not going to be a daily paycheck.

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So you get $1.875. However, that’s not 1.875 SBD, that’s 1.875 STU (Steem Token Units)

Actually, it's essentially the same thing as @dragrousa pointed out.

not something you can walk away with, not going to be a daily paycheck.

You obviously have never seen the chronic bot users in a state of constant power down. Once you have the cycle primed, you always have enough to keep bidding and sell the portion.

Regardless of the bot you use, you will be lucky to get a 300% upvote.

False. There are a good number of bots that don't have ROI cap. They aren't the vocal bots you see usually. Pretty easy to get more a lot more than you put in if you know what you are doing.

You are doing outdated math. Time to stop.

Yawn. You're just speaking from emotion. You haven't done the math. You haven't looked at the code. And you haven't tried to make an ROI from bid bots. It's not as easy as you think. But even if it was, you're real problem is thinking that the STU payout reflects the quality of the post, just like everyone else here. You seem wrapped up in pyramid-scheme thinking.

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And you haven't tried to make an ROI from bid bots.

Okay. Whatever you say.

Just don't forget that when I was onboarded by @someguy123, he told me to use bots for profits.

You may go ahead and call him an idiot.

I had plenty of profitable bids before I stopped due to my commitments.

So yawn to you.

It's sooooo damn difficult to make ROI with bots.

P.s. how old are you? I'm convinced nobody here is older than 25.

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Old enough to know that you were downvoted for legitimate reasons.

"Legitimate" lol! So no, you're not older than 25.

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You are wrong, as usual. Take a rest.

"As usual" lololol says the dude I just met!

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Btw, what part of the Rocky Mts? I live near Glenwood Springs. Love Colorado! :)

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Whales will do whale things. But if new money was coming into steem the price wouldn't still be in the teens. Steem will be $0.05 by Jan.

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