Temperature Increases First.

in #discussion7 years ago



Then CO2 Increases...kinda like fire then smoke...Duh!
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  • The question is how does the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) determine that an increase in atmospheric CO2 causes an increase in global temperature? The answer is they assumed it was the case and confirmed it by increasing CO2 levels in their computer climate models and the temperature went up.

GIGO...garbage in..garbage out. It's possible to program a computer to do anything.

Data Mining..... Decide the result that you want...then look for the data to support your conclusion.

  • from 1940 to 1980 when the human production of CO2 increased the most, global temperatures went down.

Heat causes an increase of CO2 in the earth's atmosphere...just like heat causes smoke...NOT the other way around.

The climate alarmists have cause and effect reversed.

......................in other news..................

Temperatures have been FALLING for 8,000 years
The average temperature of the planet is colder now than at any time since the last Ice Age.

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well - it's always the time frame one need to consider... 😊 @peekbit

hehe, I like how your chart is from iceagenow.info

Temps have been increasing on earth for the last 100+ years and at a increased rate when humans figured out they could burn fossil fuels to create energy.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/30/climate/how-much-hotter-is-your-hometown.html

do you consider one hundred years to be significant?

No, I think 800 thousand years is, CO2 levels currently on earth are the highest they have been in the last 800 thousand years, when CO2 levels increase it causes earth's temperature to increase, that is a proven scientific fact.

when CO2 levels increase it causes earth's temperature to increase, that is a proven scientific fact.

nope..CO2 is an effect. It's not the cause.
It's simple..when the temp goes up..CO2 goes up.
(lag time about a thousand years..hard to see on your graph?)

Cold water absorbs a lot more CO2 than warm water does.
when undersea volcanoes (4 million of them current estimate) heats up the ocean it releases CO2...it takes a while for the ocean to heat (or cool), hence the lag time.

By golly we are are screwed if something like a volcano were to suddenly exi... oh. Volcanos do exist. =\ And they expell more Co2 into the atmosphere during an eruption than mankind does. Who'd have thought?

volcanoes actually have a cooling effect on the planet
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-do-volcanoes-affect-w/

I'm just stating, if it's as alarming as the IPCC says, then we'd be doing a good thing for the planet by solving the problem of volcanoes erupting.

Yep it would help, unfortunately humans do not have the capabilities to stop volcanoes but they do have the ability to stop burning fossil fuels. Regardless it is already too late, even if humans stopped all fossil fuel burning today the CO2 that is already in the atmosphere will continue increasing earth's temps, which will cause sea level rise. Look at the chart I linked above if you are interested.

you haven't been paying attention?

CO2 IS an effect...not a cause.

No my friend, you are incorrect. I have been paying attention on this issue for a long time and I trust NASA scientists. If you want to understand the relationship between CO2 levels and temperature of earth I recommend you watch this video.

the video is a lie.
NASA cooks the books..
I don't trust anyone I don't know personally.