@greenman has been using his voting power to upvote every single comments on his posts to ~4-5$. The result is that over time there are hundreds of one line / meme pictures comments on his posts.
He then follows on by commenting. "Thx for resteem" or just "Thx" on all of them and upvoting them to 3-8$.
I believe this careless redistribution scheme will attract a higher percentage of people who are going to also try to game the system to get easy reward instead of contributing to Steem.
Discussion below ...
So on the second post linked above, he has given himself a $5.36 upvote while the Original Post is sitting at $0.38 and he has not voted on it. He admits that he is just upvoting himself using his stake to get an ROI. The statements he make there make it clear he either does not understand, or does not care about the reward pool and the potential harm to the long term value of Steem he is causing.
"It is your Stake, use it as you see fit" is clear here. He sees fit to upvote himself on every comment, @transisto sees fit to flag his comments underwater. I have no problem with the flags whatsoever. Protect the Reward Pool man!
His powering down and leaving is a decision he needs to make of his own accord taking all things into consideration. But weighing his statements, and the implication that he is only upvoting comments on his own posts rather than going out and curating make a clear case for someone who is out for Numero Uno, not the good of the platform, so "don't let the door hit you on the way out chief!"
I read and curate lots. I work my comment section to be entertaining.
You feed your shills pretty good. Upvoted most of @theguruasia's shitposts I see. His 5 min copypasta isn't worth a cent. Flagged the hell out of him.
Hi @greenman I know you do.. And I follow you for some time now.. but I guess the discussion is that a lot of people just send in a comment with a gif in the hope that they get some curation. Sometimes it is also good to curate posts made from your followers. But I guess you will be very busy when you want to do that..
What you are doing right now is called promoting shill culture. This is only going to attract useless people.
Personally I hate self upvote! But it's not banned in the system so far! We have upcoming hardfork, so we could give this as a suggestion, atleast put a limit on Self Upvotes! Otherwise this is the STACK of that investor and we can't ban or force him/her to not to use it!
Anyway this flag war should end now and @greenman, we all need you! You got a huge fan base and though this topic you made more huge fan base as well! Enjoy your trip and be back with STEEM ON!
(Someone please tell me where we could I add suggestions to next hardfork)
Cheers~
I found some other huge problem, the discussion is here and yes we need some suggestion TAG! https://steemit.com/steemit/@wnfdiary/how-to-make-steemit-futureproff
If the system allows its all fair. If you dont want to allow self voting ban it in the next hard fork and see how the steem users react to it.
"If the system allows its all fair"
The system is built to give the users the power to self correct. @transisto is allowed by the system to flag content that does not suit a particular view of what should be allowed on the system. This too is "allowed by the system".
When Transisto flags posts/comments that add no value to the platform my rewards go up. When other users upvote their "Thanks" comments that took no effort my rewards go down.
I know which side of that line I am going to be on.
If users want to upvote themselves, that's fine. I upvote myself one time a day, that's my personal rule. Other people don't feel that limiting themselves is an issue, and that is fine for them. I am a steward of Delegated Steem Power so I prefer not to take too much advantage of that, even though my delegators never told me not to upvote myself.
if those who are upvoting themselves don't want to get flagged there are two things they could do to avoid it. Upvote whatever they are responding to with at least the same VP as they are giving to themselves. And Write legitimate comments! You don't have to adhere to a word count or anything, but put in something more than two words when you are going to give yourself an upvote worth more than most users Top Level Posts are making! It really isn't that difficult to stay off of Transisto's radar.
Everything is fair upvote downvote. Its a free market. :p
Also I am pretty sure @greenman has given more votes to his followers and he writes some useful stuff about the finance world.
I agree with this, if all other platforms can contain entertainment stuffs, why this platform can't? I like gif also. Sometimes it's the best way to express our feeling than 1000 words!
People has different views, that's the human nature! Hope we all should respect what others think!
Cheers~
Totally agree with you ;)
Just One thing I have to say all,Put respect on every people.every man/woman has personal choice and he/she knows better.so everyone can put their comment freely.thanks to all
Mr president the truth is they haven't fan like your blog and they got jealous.
Remember one thing without people power steemit is useless. He pointed you beacause of he want more fan for his blog making famous.
There are lots of peoples blog have gif and if you goo funny tags you can find out more .
Please stay we love you mr president. If you dont upvote ,there will be no problem. We love you. Please come back. If your are stop writing blog then we lost a special person.
We need you sir .please stay
Pls if he continues on that what kind of damage will ir gv to the system
The reward pool is the same amount every day regardless of how voting takes place. So by upvoting his own effortless comments, he is actively REMOVING reward from someone else who worked hard on their post. By rewarding himself he is taking away from others.
This action if allowed to continue promotes such behavior in others. "If this guy can make a bunch of money upvoting his "Thx" comment, then why shouldn't I?" Once the rewards are being monopolized by people who are making money with little to no effort, then the genuine content creators will leave because they are not getting rewarded.
When genuine content creators leave, and investors come looking at Steem and see a pile of crap posts, meme's, and people getting big upvotes on effortless comments they will decide not to invest. Without people wanting to buy in to Steem the value of the Steem token goes down. This hurts across the board, whether you have 5 STEEM or 500,000 STEEM, if the value is Zero, your value is zero.
So long answer short, promoting GOOD content promotes a higher value of Steem, promoting crap content contributes to the downward pricing influence, and, in a complete doomsday scenario, kills the platform when Steem value drops to an effective Zero across the board.
Good Content - Good For Growth
Crap Content - Good for short term, get in and get out profits for people who don't care about the longevity of the platform.
I post twice a week with educated content. Those who resteem are the lazy ones. How I get return on investment is my business. It is like exercising a stock option. I curate lots of other work.
sometimes, the long answer is the most appropriate. This is one of those times. Thanks for your post bro!
Yes. This is true. It shouldn't be like that.
lolz half of this bitches below upvote their comments and still have the balls to even comment on this blog lolz...
I upvote 0.00% of everything I do, and nobody cares... So F this whole drama, I'm out of here.. lolz
that's good idea.
To be honest, He attracts people with that behaviour. I also reacted a couple of times and noticed that he values a normal reaction and with some depth more. I guess for beginners starting with 0 steem power this is a way of collecting some steem power. I started myself 6 months ago with 0. And now I am happy were I am. But now I am also trying to do steemit promotions to get more people on the platform. There are many other who just post a picture and never vote on quality replies they get. They only think about themselves. Many different people in this world.. I will keep contributing to the platform.
Free money always attract people, often not those of the best kind / or coming with an entitled mindset.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Here is the deal with that....
What is it that this place is after?
Is it quality content or is it people who come to the blockchain and participate?
If it is quality content you seek, which has been the case with steemit from what I can see, you are looking at a much smaller user base who are serious about blogging and posting.
On the other hand, if you are looking for massive growth, dopey memes and cat videos is the way to go. That is the stuff that goes viral.
In the end, you will probably have both...or some type of mixture. Eventually, the steem blockchain needs to evolve into a place where all kinds of content is here, even that which some object to on ethical grounds.
For example, original content is great for dtube but what will really make it grow is music videos, tv shows, and movies. Yes people complain about pirated content yet when something is more than 20 minutes old in this era, it is ancient.
We also need people posting news, legit news so that this place is a news source for people. It is a wonderful place to get crypto but mainstream basic news, not so much. Again you run into the copyright police on that one.
Sadly, I dont think there is anyway around gaming the system. There simply are going to be people who take short cuts and try to get around stuff. I write an article, takes me an hour, and of late I get maybe $15 give or take...does it upset me to see someone who is posting a silly meme get $7 or $8? Sure...makes me think I need to find a meme site.
In the end, I know people, whoever stops by my blog, do so because they value the content I create. That is what keeps me writing. As for the money aspect of things, I realize my monetary reward will be from the appreciation of the steem token and, as ETH showed with the stupid kitty stuff, goofy stuff can be very profitable (I am not sure what that says about society today).
Great discussion points @transisto.
I would expect content on Steem to be more beneficial to humanity than what you can see trending on the outdated attention whore advertisement industry. Most content monetization scheme are still about bating you by appealing to your most basic instinct and switching to deceptive mind controlling ads.
I hope Steem will find it's niche and won't be drowned with users and stake holder that think success is measured mainly by number of users, posts and comments. More total views would certainly help STEEM valuation but not at any cost, viewer's attention are not all worth the same.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Sounding like god over the fucking internet.
More 'beneficial to humanity'... give me a break! God - yup. Praise be to this man.
greenman you are right bro..........///////
This is a very valid point...the question is what viewers attention is worthwhile? Is it the hard core liberals and conservatives (ideologues) who we find in the political section? Is it the mainstream news people? Or is it the people who spend 15 hours a day on Facebook doing whatever it is they do on Facebook?
I started writing, when I joined, about technology/futurism stuff....very little interest. Even now, I write about steem and the potential here...still, relatively speaking, not a lot of interest. I feel the commenting on this site is severely lacking...most of what I see is the "great post" garbage so I see where you are coming from with the upvoting meme and the tnx crap. That isnt dialogue and that is what I think is missing.
I guess there is a balance that needs to be navigated....growth is necessary but not without solid footing in terms of quality content. One way to become my space is to be a site with dopey content because then the next site that is a bit dopier ends up pilfering the masses.
I agree that Steemit should get viral , i agree it is hard to set boundaries and there will be always people who take shortcuts. However, i totally disagree that we can do nothing about, that's why we have forks , platform is evolving. Take as example reddit, they have many rules that don't suit casual users. They call it a platform for arrogant techies , but ot got viral and reddit found its own community that comply with those rules. Steemit should also be unique, fair and with its own laws. You want to earn ? Follow the rules.
Very interesting points. One question? What rules?
And steemit could establish a bunch of rules, as a centralized entity, yet people can just use busy.org which is a totally different site to access the same information. That is the beauty of the blockchain, and from the perspective you are bringing up, the negative.
Other than calling @greenman out, is there anything that can be done about that. We dont have moderators around here...there arent admin. Reddit has all that. In fact, is what he is doing "wrong"? Transisto brought up the point that he thinks it is careless redistribution and could attract others just looking to game the system. However, notice he didnt call for a ban, boycott, or any retribution. I sense he is bringing this point up for discussion and awareness.
Steemit is at a point where people need to decide what we want to make this place. There is a risk, since money is involved, that people are going to do things simply to profit without any thought of anyone or anything else. I guess those people will always exist. However, what does the average person on here want....what is he or she thinking about in terms of individual long term contribution?
That is what I sense is being raised by this article.
Not all rules are written :) If the system does not fine spammers, it does not mean society cannot. I have mentioned before, Steemit is evolving, maybe there will be content moderators in the future , who knows. And yes because it is decentralized users can raise issues and that might influence development of the platform in the future.
there are already a lot of people on steem purely for the purpose of trying to profit. And to be honest - when you earn 10€ per hour working in RL and you get on steem 30$ per single upvote - it's hard to say no. But I understand more and more that giving upvotes can be profitable too - because if you interact on steem and not only with yourself - you get much more back.
What's RL?
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Real Life, often said as IRL In Real Life.
Now that is a very deep question :D
Nevermind the unfairness of reward pool distributions to meaningless comments holding no value like these, I'm more concerned that when you leave a tonne of comments with high payouts like these all over the place, it sends every wrong message to new users or curous investors considering STEEM. It already takes a fair amount of explaining and educating to convince newcomers that there is real value backing up the money they see being made on the platform. Encountering examples like this just make that job a lot harder.
Greenman, and others like him, would be better off considering how they can use their vote to incentivise behaviours that could help take increase the value of the token. Like supporting projects to encourage and help people give STEEM as a Christmas present to someone for the holidays (if I may ad some shameless self-promotion).
I just checked him out and found this comment of you:
The second point on that is exactly the thing..
I can understand that he wants to profit from the current situation going on here on steem, who doesn't want to?
But unfortunately this is definitely a way to damage and to threaten the whole platform..
Especially if more 'whales' or users in generell with high Steem power start using this.
This can cause a chain reaction which definitely can be deadly..
This is a very tricky situation, not so simple like spammers, over-bot abusers or friendly upvotes.
On one hand, @Greenman writes big posts about himself, his life and crypto experience, which sometimes is very interesting to read. He also upvotes quite a lot of users, who write comments on his posts. Usually, these are minnows with no money who are trying to get a big upvote.
The bad part in this situation is that it looks like he does not read comments at all or at least this is just my impression and there are lot of spammy comments like "hey nice post" , "well done follow me ", etc.
As results we see a shit tone of comments (some good and the rest shitty ones).
Now, on the other hand, he is replying to those comments and upvotes himself, which looks bad, but makes some sort of sense. He is compensating his upvotes to comments of others so it would look fair.
Now the question is , would it be the same situation when you write in someone other's post a comment and upvote yourself? Is self-upvoting allowed or not? Where is a line?
Personally, I think it looks a bit as overuse of your power. You can reply in your own post comments couple of times and selfupvote, but replying to every shitty comment and writing the same, well not so good. On the other hand nothing prohibits to do that. Self-upvoting your comments in others posts would be almost the same and would look ok to most people in Steemit.
My verdict - the amount of comments self-upvotes in your own post should be smaller. Quality of the comments should be higher. Then it will look better.
self voting was well thought of before the start of Steem. This tools helps minnows. And since this tool is available, everyone has a freewill.
But a person writes interesting posts, and of course he wants everyone to read and comment on them. And he gets a lot of comments.
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And the fact that there are bots sometimes marked - well, what can you do, it's inevitable costs.
I hate people who upvote themselves comments. And i don't understand why to use the vote in this way, if you can upvote someone else. This is not the steemit spirit.
people come here only to do their "business projects" and not for the sense of what this community represents. Continue to flag abuse by users... TY
@transisto,
As per our last discussion, your point is correct! But for me @greenman did not post regularly and if he post he also upvoted people who interact with his posts and as you said he also upvoted his comments as well!
For me it's not an unfair one! He helped a lot of minnows by rewarding them, and once a week (probably) we can see his post in steemit! And he never made a simple post, if he post something, he made it very well! So, I hope you all should understand it's not a very unfair thing! (I also respect what you said)
Hope this flag thing and arguments will not lead a power down of him and for me, he is not draining the reward pool, he just blast his SP most probably once a week!
People might have different thoughts! But this is how I feel his work! And hope pretty smile on our face could fix this argument in a nice way!
Cheers~
must be removed the possibility to upvote our own posts. This destroy the community...
i like where your head is at @transisto , imho public shaming might help a little. . i notice you do a lot of "one off" posts on different schemers. . What about running a weekly post with a list of known abusers and then adding to it as they come up. . Maybe that is an idea.
If the system rewards him for behaving this way, then there's no reason for him to stop. Can't blame someone for trying to make money, even if his actions aren't great for the community at large. If you don't like somebody's content or behavior, you can always flag them. But if the system rewards low-effort behavior like this, then the best thing to do would be to figure out how to change the Steem ecosystem to prevent it. (Personally, I think self-voting shouldn't be a thing for exactly this reason but if it benefits me I'll continue to do it)
Or maybe if self-votes costed much more than regular votes? Unclear what would be the best way to approach this issue.
I made this post specifically to highlight that the "system" doesn't "rewards him for behaving this way" anymore.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
I received about 30 new followers in short order so rewarded. Keep up the night hood. My comment section is one of the most entertaining and I get paid to make it that way. This is entertainment.
Better hope you don't get flagged into oblivion. . i would be careful about your actions and responses to people who have much more than you invested in the success of this platform. . .I can give you an example of a few people who were pulling the same bullshit as you and you could check how "entertaining" their accounts are now.
Yes called censorship.
Not censorship pal. . Downvotes can be used however they want. .censorship would be removing your post or comment completely so it cannot be seen or read.
Eye of the beholder. I call it censorship as my upvoting myself helped me justify having $175K in steemit. I now don't have a return on investment so I move on, hence the power down. I will find a return on investment platform.
Did you read the post? i think it explains it pretty well
@greenman has started powering down. Dont make him quit and lose all the people he upvotes. Steem in its beta stage needs more users.
I couldn't agree more completly,
But me and myself havn't decided yet.
i'ts ok
I think self-voting your own comments should be allowed. There are times I comment on someone's post, usually something funny, because I like to make people laugh, and NONE of the comments will have any upvotes, and there is my funny comment at the bottom of a list of 20 or 30 or more comments, so then I will upvote my own comment so it rises to the top and therefore gets more exposure because its now the first comment people see and not the last. Really though, my upvote is worth 2 cents, so its not like I'm lining my pockets here upvoting my own comments.
Your comments are worth more than two cents, so for the same reason you expect the crowd to give it a fair value you should give your own comment a fair value and not upvote them for profit. for example hundreds of "Thx" to 7$
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Comments are only worth the value given to them by those who upvote them. Just as any "product" is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. My upvote is only worth 2 cents. The WHOLE point of steemit is for a community to make money off of what they post online, otherwise none of this would exist because everyone would be using facebook or twitter or some other social media site that doesn't pay. If the guy wants to upvote his own comments and the system allows it, whose to stop it? Eventually people will stop upvoting his stuff and stop commenting because they see him as being greedy, or they will keep on commenting and upvoting his stuff cus he upvotes their comments as well. I can tell you i have folllowed every person that has upvoted one of my comments in a big $ way. As the saying goes Money talks and bullshit walks.
No it's not, this is a secondary effect.
You need to start your thinking by asking yourself why would people buy steem in the first place.
To get exposure.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Buy steem? You don't have to buy anything to take part in this platform. I've been on here since June of 2017 and I haven't spent any money out of my income from my job on here. Every single promotion of this platform I have seen has always been in the form of "get paid for posting".
As a rather famous steemian says
Are you completely oblivious from where the money is coming from?
Steem doesn't have a sell price out of nowhere. Someone is buying. Why are they buying would be my question to you.
Is this why you're here on this thread right now?
In reality this isn't really a situation for debate. There should be zero people who would defend a person who constantly replies "Thnx" or "Thanks" or "Thank you" and upvotes those comments to $3 - $7 every time. That's fucked up and good luck getting rich on here acting like a Carp.
I'm on this thread because the title caught my attention. I'm not defending the guy at all. The simple fact is, if the system allows him to upvote his own comments then whose going to stop him? Like I stated before, the guy will eventually lose followers because they will see him as being greedy.
I am in no way a bottom feeding carp. I have put alot in to this community myself. Matter of fact one of the first things I did was to donate 50 STEEM (when it was valued at 1.60) that I had won the week before in a contest, to a woman who I have never met because she had medical bills.
My statement of following those who gave me big upvotes was to simply say I have followed those who have shown their appreciation for my thoughts by giving me a big upvote.
I don't think you're really getting it! Who cares if this guy has followers or not? Even doesn't even care! I think you're beating around the bush for some reason. He upvotes his own comment everytime $3-$7. The purpose of these upvotes is not to move to the top of the comments for visibility. It is to "Make Money". This is very harmful to the platform as it takes from the reward pool and lowers the payout for all other users.
We are! We as users are to stop the abuse on our platform. This is not a situation where you phone the police or contact your MP or whatever other type of sheeple things people do. This is our platform we as stake holders are to direct it's path.
:) This was very thoughtful and generous of you.
I'm not fooled easily ;)
by the way, thank you for the big upvote.
You can strike out your comments now so that you can upvote them for visibility and not for profit.
What do you mean strike out your comments now? I have no idea how to do that. Every post I've ever read the comments were in order of value.
When you make a comment in the bottom right corner you can select the 3 options just like when you make a post.
Power Up 100%
Default 50%/50%
Decline Payout
Select Decline Payout then upvote the shit outta your comment so it gets noticed. I will decline payout on this for an example
I see. Not sure if that will still move your comment up or not.
Why would you decline making money on something you took the time to write? That's like going to work, working for a half hour and then going and punching in. I guess if you have a salaried job you wouldn't know what that's like though.
I created a test comment further down the post for an example. I declined the payout and it's moving up the same as any other comment
I am just learning the ins and outs.
I also give genuine comments portions of apreciation. not that much yet but always something
But do you reply Thx to all of them and upvote that even higher?
I think "genuine" is the keyword here. There is no indication that anyone has read his blogpost by posting an funny gif.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Who cares if they read my post I am looking for the funny gifs for my sister and those who can't understand the content... people like you.
Everybody should do whatever the fuck they want. I agree with Greenman that we should stop pointing fingers at people doing their thing without doing harm to others. It's already in his name. Greenman is probably free and evolving in ways others dont even dare to dream of
sometimes when a comments looks fishy I check if its spam and visit the commentators comments section. I find it weird that just because tjere is the possibility of receiving money for interaction that people overcomplicate it trying to find the holy cup of communication like its some sort of doctors degree 🤣
I do decide which comment to give what amount of % depending on its content. I think I give most % to people who make me laugh or when I am happy for them, when I agree or get inspired by their logic and ideas
I reply most but not all of them. If the comment is genuine and All that is left is to say "thx" I just thank with a upvote. If I feel an answer would round up a thought I do reply.
I think it's fine, why because everyone must have their own strategy
I came here because the idea of being a content creator and contributing quality content was the idea. The impression I got was that this would be one of the first social media sites to reward such creators. I have been crating on YouTube since 2015 and have 139 videos and its been quite a slow grind to build up my channel.
Thankfully I have a passion for my channel and what I do there, so I won't stop. My vlogs and progression have been saved and have a value to me despite the monetary incentive. Though it does help creators grow and keep creating. My point is, if you are only in it for the money that will always devalue creation and art. It tips the scales. I am new here and excited for the potential that exists for many people. As It is a new direction away from the classic models of Facebook, twitter and YouTube. There will always be people trying to make a quick buck. If that is the only story they have to tell. The money may be gone just as quick. What were you meant for?
I made a little research and checked his older posts. It was not always like that , couple month ago he was actually upvoting bigger comments with an idea. Now instead of writing more articles he is upvoting every single meme and it is very clear most of those people did not even read his article. I think greenman just got greedy. I think this is a wrong way to distribute reward pool and very bad example.
Best thing will be to read all the comment. And only up vote which looks relevant to the post and who really read the post.
Hehe and I guess the logical next step would be to go from "look relevant" to "relevant". That's where different vote strength is useful.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Total agree with you.
You got a 12.26% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @fproductions!
i think it's harmful...for steemit...community
i have seen his blog.
thank's for sharing
you do it right when you reveal such ways of enriching individual users ... in order for the community to develop, everyone should contribute, share valuable information .... For your valuable information, thank you
I have seen a lot of cocksuckers doing this lately. Hundreds of personal comments upvoted 100% by themselves. I even saw one guy who was commenting on his post that was 1 year old. Just commenting "1" and then upvoted it everytime.
Lol, what an ass
Yes man it's brutal! That's the type of stuff that hurts this platform. Upvoting your own post won't hurt the platform unless you post 20 memes a day and upvote everyone of them and nobody else. I also saw a guy doing that. I flagged the shit outta him soooooo
Yeah, my logic is that you should upvote the stuff you really like otherwise voting is nonsense. If you want to upvote your own post or comment OK, but to spam like that... that's not having self respect
Agreed!
Haha so ridiculous!
I have seen a few people that put out good content leave this platform because of the fact that they were getting no upvotes and seeing stuff like this guy upvoting his own dumb comments on their posts but would not even upvote their post
@transisto doesn’t seem like a great thing for the overall good of the community. Specially for those (like me) who really want to see this community prosper 🤞 Best wishes, - @splendorhub
Everybody has their own strategy. I see why he does it and I see why you think it careless and not good for Steem.
I'm not sure I have enough experience to know either way.
The way @greenman is curating is not recommendable. Rewards, however, @greenman got from his or her posting is not so much. Furthermore, he or she posts no more often than once a week. Therefore I do not think that he or she deserves this kind of blame.
A comment is same as a post. This person post more than 10x a day and upvote them all.
There should be a way for those with less Steem Power to help out in the downvoting process of garbage like this. .In other words, there should be a downvote bot or ability to pay to downvote unethical, spammy, collusion, etc etc etc.. I would definitely pay to downvote shady business or maybe just pay to downovote because I feel like it and someone is an asshole. . If we can buy upvotes, and buy Steem Power, and use our votes how we see fit, there should be a downvote service. . .maybe I'm totally off, but I would use it.
I get a lot of my cues from people like you messaging me. Don't hesitate to contact me.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
https://steemit.com/@drowningwhale
thx
I've never used this so if something happens or you get ripped off I will apologize in advance. I nothing about this service other then the fact that I stumbled across it at some point
Gonna try to communicate with them in chat if possible first or maybe test with a small amount. . Let you know how it goes. . You are not liable. :) :)
Stay original and exercise your freewill, that is essence of Steem.
Comment Test For @dwells - Can someone upvote this so I can see if I move up this fucking list or not. I already juiced it 100% fuck
Thank you! :)
As you can see @dwells the comment moves up just like any other comment.
Awesome. This post has a 2.22 value that won't get paid out. I won't upvote it now because it now makes. My literal 2 cents worthless. The point I was making for upvoting my own comment on a thread where no comments had been upvoted, was for greater exposure for.........wait for it........more upvotes and a bigger payout.
If I comment on something and in my opinion my comment is better than the dozen or so generic "great post" " nice pics" "good info" comments that are above it, and I think people should see my more engaging or more entertaining comment before all that other drivel, then why shouldn't I upvote my own post AND take a payout for it?
I think it's fine, why because everyone must have their own strategy
Wow, that should not be allowed, steemit should do something about it...
Steemit inc is a participant like you and me in Steem's decentralized infrastructure.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
Congratulations @transisto!
Your post was mentioned in the hit parade in the following category:
@greenman just awsome
Everyone has their own tactics. I can see why he does this and why I think you do not think it is insufficient and well for Steve
I'm not sure that I have enough experience to find a way out.
NOT cool! Quite tricky IMO
Thanks for informative content.
Greenman voting pattern is not good for steem, I think. Upvote and resteem. Thanks a lot
Voting for yourself it can be ok for posts but not for comments no way (justttt in case you wanna make people aware of something and yeh like that you put your comment on top with upvote butttt 5$ per comment (by upvoting yourself) is just wrong...
I think a comment easily be worth 5$ but certainly not in that case. Also this is systematic 100% upvotes and commenting as often as possible.
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
100% agree with you @transisto how i said " (by upvoting yourself) " so it's ok if people vote for your comment let's say 100$ but it's not ok if you upvote your comment with 100$
Obviously Steemit is a platform for human defects to slip through, we are human and we drag those flaws into creations. Ideally, there should be no people who are dishonest in their performance, but unfortunately that would be in an ideal world.
It's not like he is doing something forbidden, but yeah... i think one should vote the things you really like and not every comment, otherwise there is no sense in voting.
I am a new user
Although it’s hard for me I’m still tryna push ahead and make my blog grow
not so bad.. also not so good..
because each of upvote took 3sec to respond..
But overall it is best for make money online ☺✌
Many people are discussing this post and that is good because the idea is to discuss the different thoughts. I only know that one vote of yours is more than my salary of one month, this because of the inflation of my country. :/
hmmm.. do you usually refer to yourself in third person?
In all honesty i think that people that make shitposts are trying to collect ; but the people distributing upvotes ; and high value upvotes at that, are doing some good, they are giving a little bit of their power to the little guys and helping in a way, while i understand that its basically spam posting, he has invested quite a bit into the platform itself if he has an upvote that high .
So he might be doing something right, in a way - i feel like things like that are good for the beginners ; it would in itself bring more people into the platform looking for a quick buck yes, but those new people are teachable .
In respect to the upvoter ; i feel like if he enjoys content, or seeing small little replies to his posts then he should be able to upvote anything he sees fit, on the same hand, he has quite the supply for being a blogger, as his posts are quite long, it could be, in his eyes - a way for him to encourage people to read his posts .
Personally i think what he is doing is helping the platform in a way ; it could help people obtain more SBD and use it for something they wish to see bring engagement to the platform .
What about the part where he reward himself 5$ on his hundreds of "Thx" posts?
well, seeing as how he is collecting that ; i dont see him abusing his power - he is still upvoting other peoples coments ; if he puts his own money back in his pocket why should that matter, he is still engaged in getting content and replies - maybe you should get in on the replies and tell him how great of a job he is doing, maybe he will send you a decent upvote ; personally i dont see a problem with it - if his own upvote gets him in the hot page, fairly quickly - without having to spend SBD to get bots to upvote, or resteem why is that such a problem ?
the fact that upvoting replies ; even his own, can get attention on the platform getting it in the hot, or trending section is important, why would he spend SBD to bots, that wont even read his post, let alone actually engage in conversation ; but he is not just putting that on only his own, abusing his power and giving nothing back to the community - he is finding a medium between the two so that he can continue to enjoy his work .
Explanation for high upvote : https://steemit.com/steem/@transisto/temporarily-pausing-my-anti-abuse-efforts-while-sbd-is-off-the-chart
its nice though especially for people like us who are just starting,it really encourages us.
This is awesome.
@transisto you should probably be downvoting this since you have been downvoting others that are selling their votes, you know to not be hypocritical:
https://steemit.com/steem/@randowhale/randowhale-is-up-and-running-the-og-vote-bot-is-back-submit-your-requests-now
i didnot get that what is your problem ? that was his blog .he give reward whoever he want .we love him he give us suggestion about crypto .when SBD was 1$ he gave reward to all commenters .if he is happy with his money then what is your problem? personally i bought steem coin after his suggestion .don't you see that ?
@transisto bro the problem is THE RAISIING OF SBD .thats not the fault of
@greenman
he is a good man and his blog is very good i think . i love him .his knowledge about currency is huge .please dont write blog like this.
if he does something then everybody is guilty .you too. caz you also upvote your comment section. naver mind
Nothing to do with SBD
We love @greenman. I can't understand why people are so jealous. He has contributed a lot to steemit. And I think it's his choice to do whatever he wants to do.
I also give genuine comments portions of apreciation. not that much yet but always something