Yeah well, I've been down that road. Brought some people onto the platform over the last few years and while the bigger chunk left due to a lack of interest and convenience, some of them got knocked off-road by downvotes. And it makes sense that you want to come back to the Urun situation again and again but I don't cry over spilled milk. I've lost a bunch of digital friends over the year due to this insanity.
The Stakes create a power dynamic and the curation organizations do as well. You can't talk to a colleague the same way as with a subordinate, at least if you want them to stay in the company and don't get dragged into legal battles. If you run a fat stake, you can't talk to small accounts the way you handle the big ones. There's no HR around, they will gtfo.
Moreover, it doesn't really matter if you run a downvote rant against somebody who goes overboard. But to not state, an indefinite end to the downvotes is practical to murder. So I wanted to get a view on what I am talking about and did the footwork. I went down some interactions between larger stakeholders and the people that they've placed their downvotes on and it's horrific. It's so bad that I immediately stopped thinking about the idea of talking about those case by case.
One account 50k-100k active policing can easily blast more minnows than we have the chain onboarding at the moment. It's the opposite of good.
Every single one of those cases of negative interactions isolated might very well prove to be justified. The result doh and the sum of the results and their impact on the whole Ecosystem, or what Dan has come to call "Platform Hive" tells a different story.
Here's an example of how those go down often:
livinguktaiwan78 (MOD)
In your case, there is nothing to judge - plagiarism is clearly not acceptable on Hive. That is a fact.
Your chance, is exactly why I told you that plagiarism is not tolerated on Hive, in case you were not aware (which you should not be as you are a PhD student), instead of sending you to Hivewathchers immediately. If I did, then you can say I didn't give you a chance.
And finally the threat, as you put it, is to make you aware of the consequences of repeat behaviour. Many people think it is not a big issue to plagairise on Hive and that there are no consequences. That is where they are failing and bringing Hive down with them.
Trust this explains everything and my approach to this problem.
I mean, just wow. That guy used a quote without citing it, the post is very original and a giant one. https://peakd.com/@tanzil2024/a-memorable-visit-to-the
And she was the one stirring up the tensions with urun and making it impossible to isolate the instance. Seems to me it does not make sense to go over single cases one by one. I have to be fair and add, she's not wrong! But you write that way to a newbie and byebye.
The entanglement between dispute and reputation seems to be the major dealbreaker to me as well as the perspective of how many people have left because they felt that they're not welcome anymore.
To be fair that was a fucking school teacher plagiarising, it's like a cop committing felonies, or you know, maybe stop trying to compare hive with web2 and don't just leave context out when quoting these things. While I understand the aggressiveness in her tone there considering the teacher should know better, I do think we should tone it down a bit in general with the way we go about it.
That said it's still not a real issue, downvotes aren't "chasing people away" as when they're used badly everyone hears about it, when they're used correctly only a few people hear about it and the rest don't care cause that's the community policing the rewardpool and it's working as intended. There's plenty of new users being onboarded and joining and most don't need to be told not to plagiarise or shitpost at rep 70 and throw a weird hissy fit that's borderline illegal because of it.
Either way, I'm done discussing this non-issue, feel free to ping me if someone is actually using their downvotes maliciously and I'll look into it, but for what it's worth your words have stopped having much reason or value behind them at this point to me.
I have to applaud your vigorous nature, makes sense that you run OCD.
Also, I can't help the feeling that most of these interactions would end immediately if people would just Downvote and leave a friendly message that sounds like "I want you to do better so that I can upvote and not downvote you next time. That would be great."
I tried talking with y'all, many months ago. You had many opportunities to turn around your behavior.
https://peakd.com/hive-193084/@solominer/re-urun-ripyeq
Yeah so, you're missing the point. I see what your argument is, but that was not spam. It's Tenor available MEMEs to have a MEME-based conversation. Those interactions have been over hours, some days and express a way of communication.
Here's a list of differences:
Well, I'm open to the thought that it looks abusive and spammy. That was not intended, none is making gains with this. It's really just fun.
Is that so absurd to believe?
Look, srsly. My last post was thanking you on Threads that you turned to peace.
This is not helpful to anybody.