Is Russia really going to invade?

in Informationwar4 years ago (edited)

Russia are going to invade the Ukraine at 1am tomorrow! Well so says US intelligence. The Sun screams of invasion imminent today in its headline.

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Let's be clear about this: Russia is NOT going to invade Ukraine. A cursory study of the history of Ukraine since 2014 reveals how restrained Russia has been in the face of repeated provocations by the Kiev Junta and its American sponsor.

Since 2014 Presidents Poroshenko and Zelenko, both of whom represent the billionaire oligarchs who control Ukraine, have steadfastly refused to implement the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 Peace Accords. Instead both Presidents have launched "anti terrorist'' operations against the Russian speakers of the Donbass region leading to over 10,000 deaths.

The Kiev junta, of which Poroshenko and Zelenko are the spokesmen, have consistently begged, cajoled and demanded that the West get involved in their attempt to provoke a war with Russia. Their pipe dream being that if US/NATO get involved in the conflict then the Russian speaking regions of Donbass, now 2 separate republics of Donetsk and Lugansk together with the Crimea, which is now part of Russia, can somehow be brought back into the borders of Ukraine. An absolute pipe dream.

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It should be added that during the battles of 2014-2015 the Ukraine armed forces were decisively beaten by the militias of Donetsk and Lugansk. These defeats culminated with the decisive and crushing defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the battle of Debaltsevo in February 2015. Since then the Kiev Junta, which has deployed neo-Nazi military units such as the Azhov battalion on the front lines along with regular Ukrainian troops, has consistently demanded that the US and NATO get involved in this conflict.

Those people going along with the sabre rattling war hysteria have got to ask themselves: is the United States really going to provoke a war with Russia, whose armed forces would convincingly win any conventional conflict with NATO?

In February 2016 the RAND corporation in collaboration with US military issued a report that concluded that: "The [war] games findings are unambiguous. As currently postured NATO cannot successfully defend the territory of its most exposed members.''

The Biden regime is ratcheting up tensions with Russia and trying to whip up war hysteria as a diversion for the public away from their dire social and economic problems.

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Record high inflation is the number one concern of ordinary Americans and Biden is terrified that the Democrats will get crushed in the midterm elections this year.

This whole manufactured crisis is pure political theatre in an effort to intensify Cold War 2.0 to whip up fear and nationalist feeling amongst the population of NATO countries. Throughout history from time immemorial, the ruling classes have used war hysteria to divert the attention of populations from their pressing social and economic problems.

This time is no different.

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Has there ever been a period in time where a nation told exactly what time of day they were going to invade and exactly where they were going to do so? This is lunacy.

I agree with ya man Putins not going to do anything its just a bluff.

Totally disagree that Russia would crush Nato... NATO is 27 countries combined - Russia has a military size of 3.5 million (including reserves) but NATO has 6.1 million - most importantly though NATO countries spend $1 trillion on military and Russia spends $65 billion.

That's not my opinion. You should read the Rand report from 2016. In many ways it is irrelevant as we know that any conventional war between NATO and Russia would rapidly escalate to a nuclear conflict and then its goodnight for all of us.

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Are you talking about this report. My understanding was this report was talking about preventing initial incursions from Russian troops. Is that what you meant? I thougth you were talking about NATO going toe to toe with Russia in a full scale conflict which Russia would 100% lose even with esculation to a nuclear conflict.

Putins hardcore but I dont think bullying Ukraine from joining NATO is worth turning Russia into a radiation wasteland. He cant win against NATO.

There would be no winners in a nuclear conflict. The whole planet would be turned into a nuclear wasteland.

I agree... but your over simplifying.

There would no winners in a nuclear conflict - but Russia would be the clear loser as every non-Chinese nuclear power would nuke the crap out of them to save themselves. Russia is strong but they isnt strong enough to take on the entire rest of the world and they cant turn the entire planet into a nuclear wasteland just by themselves. US also has a defense system ready if things got that bad.

So... for this conflict that takes nuclear warfare off the table - its not important enough to escalate to that point. Well see Russia trying to manufacture reasons to invade - like saying they were attacked when they absolutely werent.

We can all agree now that you were very wrong about it just being political theatre - its a very serious situation and Putin is playing a very dangerous game right now

Nuclear fall out respects no borders. The massive levels of fall out from a nuclear war would poison every one on the planet. Every country would be the loser not just Russia. Do you not get it: a nuclear war would be the end of humanity?
It still is political theatre used by Biden to divert attention from his lamentable poll ratings.
The Minsk peace accords of 2014/15 placed an onus on Ukraine to carry out a series of political/military measures, which it has steadfastly refused to implement. Instead it has waged war on Russian speakers in the Donbass.
Ukraine is no democracy. Opposition politicians are in jail, numerous political parties are banned, journalists/newspapers closed down, never mind the numerous atrocities committed by neo-Nazi military units such as the Azhov battalion and the Odessa massacre of May 2014. In Ukraine the state allows and encourages the open celebration of war criminals from WW2 such as Stepan Bandera. The US/NATO have armed the Kiev junta to the teeth and encourage it to keep shelling civilians settlements in Donetsk and Lugansk. Don't take my word for it. You should read the daily reports produced by the OSCE which clearly reveal that the majority of shelling is coming from the Ukrainian army.

Your clearly falling for Russian propaganda. So you think Russia should be invading Ukraine right now? You think a war killing civilians is the right answer?


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