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RE: Ask Me Anything - Marky Edition

in AskMe4 years ago (edited)

There are incentives, we don't steal your tokens out of your wallet. We do not have a small group of people circle jerking a picture and a paragraph for $200+ on trending every day. We are actually creating changes and improvements that are not just censorship, stealing funds, and linking Tron to the blockchain.

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I am not talking about the stolen funds, and although a fully understand the anger.

It's only a simple matter of using incentive instead of punishment to make people want to stick around Hive, and not Steem.

Because everytime I see someone getting flagged/attacked on the comments because they still cross-post on Steem, well... It's most likely that they will eventually use the service provided by the competition.

We do not have a small group of people circle jerking a picture and a paragraph for $200+ on trending every day.

Well, maybe not single picture and paragraph, but there is still a lot of circle-jerking going around here....

But if the "circlejerking" happens outside the old and powerful, I guess it isn't allowed huh...

Steem

Hive

Not even remotely similar.

There is no community directive to bash people posting on both, those are individual people making individual choices with their stake.

Still not the point, since i am not comparing wich is better, but the perception how people are not being welcomed here because they still use steem.

I don't participate in that activity, anyone who does is doing it on their own free will.

There are two types of users who fit in the category you describe, those who helped facilitate the hostile take over by supporting Justin Sun's sock puppet witnesses and those who post on both platforms to get rewards on both.

I have zero sympathy for the first group, I'm not a fan of the second but I don't discourage them either.

Who are you referring to? Theyre being attacked for simply posting on STEEM?
Show me, im curious..

Sure, how about this post a long time ago, that fortunately, after some heated discussion, @arcange backed off from that position.

This is a reflection of some witness thoughts about people posting on both chains.

A lot of this attitude might not be posted on HIVE, but I have seen a lot like this both from witness and from other users across some of the community discord channels.

Or this post from a curation community, where some witness downvoted (including @themarkymark) for no apparent reason, at least none that were publicly explained, but apparently, through some discord conversation, the reason given was that @project.hope is doing his curation project both here and on Steem.

If you look deeper, there is probably a lot more examples, but sorry, not much time to search for them right now.

Because the project lead is a piece of human garbage.

Keep fuelling his ring if you so desire.

How is he a piece of human garbage? Please, elaborate...

Lol. 3 months ago when emotions were high and arcange, as you said backed down.

This is a reflection of some witness thoughts about people posting on both chains

No, it is not a reflection of anything but the stance of one person at the time, 3 months ago, Arcange.

Or this post from a curation community, where some witness downvoted (including @themarkymark) for no apparent reason, at least none that were publicly explained, but apparently, through some discord conversation, the reason given was that @project.hope is doing his curation project both here and on Steem.

I dunno. If its true apparently they dont want to support a project that runs on Steem as well or it could be what @enforcer48 said. Im not familiar with that community so i cant judge.
If you want a answer on why they do it ask them. Then we can discuss the morality of their reasoning.

there is probably a lot more examples

There really isnt because you did your best to find some and you were found lacking. If you had a "smoking gun" youd let us know.
What you need to understand is that anyone that supports Steem and Justin is either:

  1. Ignorant on what happened which is fine.
  2. A immoral piece of shit.

There is no in-between.
There are many whales, witnesses on HIVE i openly make fun of and dislike on a personal basis (marky is a dick, wolfie a coward, netuoso a leech, etc.) but there is no world in which i will ever pick Justin Sun, a sociopath, over them when i look at all the facts of what happened.
You want everyone to just FORGIVE those that supported Justin. There has been a lot of hurt that happened and a lot of money at play. None of us are saints and forgivness doesnt just happen.

Here is the thing... I never mentioned anything about those that supported the Justin Sun move over the community, and as anyone else that moved to use HIVE, I also think it was a shitty (and pretty dumb) maneuver that he did.

I am talking about users, something that a platform like this need, but you guys still keep the hate about what happened to be stronger than the desire to actually work towards improving this place.

Sure you and others might have the louder voice because of your stakes, but it is so loud that you only hear what you are talking among yourself, and praise each other as the ones that know it all...

If things stay moving on the direction it is right now, the big stake holders (wich, at moment I don't have much interest in becoming one) will be the only ones around, holding a crypto that will lose value day after day.

The fact that some of these stakeholders adopt this kind of attitude towards those that still use both blockchains is only a symptom of a culture that is too egotistical, and think they are better than the rest of the users.

This isn't a welcoming place, if you don't belong to the 'inner circles' in a way or another.

Funny. I'm not welcomed to use Steem by the powers that may be there, so why do you make it sound one-sided?

Still not the point. The issue I am talking is not about whoever is to blame for whatever happened on Steem.

My point is about how many actual users you want HIVE to keep, instead of they moving completely to another platform, or even how many more people the witness want to join HIVE.

People are more willing to stay on a place if they are incentivized to, and not punished for going across the street.

That is marketing 101...

But if network growth isn't something the witness want for the blockchain, well... just keep doing what you guys are doing.

What do you want about "incentives".

Just have that wonderful project to upvote you.

Or, I guess your 20% tribute is not good enough to get you into their "in" club?