Hello.
People have different opinions and different worldviews on Hive.
What is considered offensive to one person may not be offensive to another.
We cannot censor someone because someone else got offended.
Personal disputes are not part of our scope of work.
If there is anyone who you think that is offending you, I would recommend ignoring that user and muting the account.
Hello and thanks for the response :)
Yes, I hear you. It's why I'm interested in web3. Freedom and respect for the individual.
I'm interested in the legal aspects? So I will wait for feedback from @jpliberty if they have time then.
What I'm understanding, from your comment, is that Hive currently has no community standards that are enforced regarding possible intentional (keyword) abuse or harm to users. And nothing in place to monitor and correct possible criminal activity. Or possible Human Rights Violations.
Possible and alleged. Obviously.
Is this correct, please?
Take your time. This is a big conversation. But extremely relevant in 2023.
I don't (personally) think it is the chain's responsibility to investigate. I'm not sure if there might be steps taken for resolution by a blockchain though. Many facets to this amd worth considering in development of any community. Or not, as it were.
Very much depends on the ethos, vision and direction of any blockchain, I guess. And also how much a system is liable under what law, if any? I do enjoy law and tech so this something I'm going to be lookikg at now.
Feedback appreciated, please? I'm pretty new to Web3.
Muting a user is not censorship since everyone else can see what the user posts except you. It's the same as muting someone on Instagram.
Copy copy.
Hmmmm... I'll have to give that some thought. It seems a bit cowardly to me. In an open community. I do like to hear all perspectives. And if someone isn't well mentally or something should they be shut down / ostracized? Strongly disagree with the "pack mentality" etc etc. Lots of components here. :/
I speak of the legalities. That is important.
Do suggest you guys look at that aspect asap. No age consent on sign up on PeakD for example. Dangerous for you. I hope to hear more about a page with suggestions for action for the younger humans in such circumstances moving forward - education on their legal rights and links to relevant organizations for support and assistance? Would be responsible for now and show a bit of awareness and pro-activeness for situations like this, the dangers of the internet and sometimes unhealthy dynamics of social media itself etc.
Quite apt it happened on this particular post! Brilliant, in fact.
But not when younger humans are cyber-bullied and kill themselves. Because a community allows it. Right? Sadly common these days.
And then there are the legalities. Of course. A kid kills themselves because of stuff like this and some parents are going to be a bit angry with you. Okay? So no :) I'm not offended. I'm not "dramatic". I am old and a liddle wiser now. We don't walk outside of the law. The end. Come now.
I don't know much about the legal aspects. I do hope to hear from Andrew at some point. Interesting...
Thanks for your feedback.
And community guidelines. Even Discord has them and bans members. Protect yourselves for god's sake
Edited: Perhaps legal guidelines to educate people. Even better! More towards personal responsibility then. More mature and more "free".
But perhaps at a certain reputation level an account is automatically banned and wallet contents go towards a fund for legal assistance for Hive users who want to pursue Civil action and protect their rights?
That wouid be something, huh?! :D
Think out of the box. But I've been roaming and it's blossoming out there. Big time now! And the Web3 social media that wins this race is going to be the one that:
a) makes the user experience the most personal and authentic (most personally "connected") i.e the most "real"; makes people feel "seen" and valued
b) the one that manages to balance freedom and respect / community somehow
In my opinion. Of course :) But let's see how this all unfolds. Interesting times!
Furthermore there's a vast difference between opinion and violence. Right?
Legalities. I'd like to hear more.
Sorry you have to deal with this. But then... we all do. ❤️
I'm sorry to get involved,but it is in the hope's to help...I'm afraid you don't really understand web3 or decentralizes....the whole purpose of it is that it can not be controlled by anyone entity,it is supposed to be above& behind the law! Online wild west!
Imagine someone gives a kid a brick of gold...the government doesn't know about the kid or the gold,yet you expect the law should protect both! It makes no sense,or it makes it impossible, better sayd! Hive has no headquarters or CEOs...most Witness are anonymous,if you didn't realize that,and they just run a nod,they won't be responsible for the content! Hive has about over 500 nods,they all run the interface you use. What you are asking is to integrate web2 here,which makes the whole Blockchain pointless! You can go to EOS platform then, which is created by the same Dan that made Steem/Hive codding...and they become a failure because of that!
The point I'm trying to make is that if you loose your kid in to the wild,who you gonna sue?who is at fault?who is gonna get her gold back? No one.
And leave alone that troll,and he will stop! What I see is that you wanna keep it on,you keep going back to provoke him..
Sorry - I must add...
We could put the most secure system into place tech wise and a malevolent competitor could simple walk in with some buddies and destroy the community with exact tactics like these, by the way.
Why not just hassle and abuse the top content creators (not calling myself one of them but, after some research, I've seen quite a few very high quality and skilled content creators leave and I'd be curious to know why since their content was generating very good earnings).
See?
This is worth a fight for a community like this - with the people and skills (and earnings, by the way - way up there compared to other decentralized social media) it contains.
Are we going to let some bad apples, with possibly very bad intentions, destroy it from the inside because we want to be "nice"?
:D I think not, dude. Again. Fuck that! Game on! And he hasn't done his due diligence on who he's fucking with btw.
Silly boy.
Still waiting for feedback from @jpliberty although I know the Aussie court is supposed to rule this month and he may be busy dealing with that. I do feel this is important though. Or am I being "dramatic". Us women can be so emotional y'know 🙄 ;)
last thing and then I'll leave this here because it's a lot. But I do so appreciate you.
A court has the capacity to order identities and personal info be released. Of course.
So if we really want to protect the freedom and privacy of individuals this must be addressed at some stage. It's a ticking time bomb. Really. Especially with government and banking systems wanting to shut this all down asap.
See?
Always the bigger picture in community. First. With personal motivation, bias and prejudice set aside if possible. But that takes time. Only human, of course <3
I'm afraid you really don't understand yet,the whole Blockchain thing...😕
Well. I am new to the tech. But not to the peoples :)
Not much difference if we don't change as well. We will create the same systems but just with different tech!
As we do.
I do understand the philosophy though. And the same applies. If it's not practiced then why even profess it to be so? It's just good marketing then. Nothing functional. See?
I'll wait it out and will keep on engaging and learning. Of course.
But what do you mean when you say "the whole blockchain thing"?
But I do need to learn more about the tech still so feedback appraciated.
And that it is totally "private" - I disagree. Nothing online is private at all. Anything can be traced. Anybody can be found.
And that it is set up to promote freedom. Like. But this comes with responsibility. Of course. We are a part of humanity, after all. And there are laws. Do I disagree with some of them? Sure! Does that mean I can break them without being held accountable by official institutions that I don't particularly agree with? No.
It is what it is.
But I'd love to hear more of your perspective and opinion. Yes please!
Scuse typos. Really struggling with the phone thing. I'm about to take a few days offline to rest my eyes again
I'll tell you something else, my darling.
Government won't even stick to the legalities. They'll do wtf they want to, when they want to, how they want to and to who they want to. If only to make a very big point. Okay?
If you think anyone is safe, even if they aren't breaking the law, in these times... I think I need to bring you a good cup of coffee asap!
Nope. We should keep things as clean and tidy as possible and fly under the radar.
I already can't by crypto anymore with my account over here. Happened in the last few months.
This is happening and the battle is officially on. And we have some kid who feels safe because he's behind a keyboard, pretty clearly displaying what is in current legislation considered criminal behaviour... thinking he's clever because he knows a bit about Web3.
Against corporate banking cartels who can afford pretty much anything. While they would love nothing more than to shut down everything crypto related as fast as humanly possible. While the community turns a blind eye and pretends it's all good because it's the wild west and we are untouchable.
Fucking genius, I tell ya! 🙄 Baah, I mean. But perhaps he doesn't care about Web3 or this blockchain. One would have to ask him and I'm a bit tired to converse with him right now
Apologies. I'm anti cencorship and won't mute on principle.
It takes an immense amount to "offend" me as well. Not offended. Not sure that's possible anymore :D
But I wont allow my kids to join now. Obviously. Especially my daughter. Not until I understand this better.
I am curious about the legalities. Which you should be too because these are there to protect you guys as well, see? No system is above the law. Obviously.
But what and how is my curiosity.
I sense nothing like this was considered in the panic of the hardfork?
I imagine the Witnesses would be held liable if something criminal was facilitated by one of their nodes for example?
Unusual circumstances. Web3. Being decentralized. See?
Lookikg forward to more of your thoughts. It is a very interesting conversation. But then I'm a bit of a nerd. ;)