ECOTRAIN QOTW 10.7: ARE ACTIVISTS WHO INCONVENIENCE THE GENERAL PUBLIC JUSTIFIED?

in ecoTrain9 months ago (edited)

QOTW-Season107.jpg

Welcome back to the question of the week, in collaboration with Dreemport! I’ve been taking it easy on you all for a while now, so this week we look at a more controversial topic around the issue of activists such as those concerned about climate change, and people who are protesting and generally making their voices heard in many ways... often to the frustration and anger of the general public! In the UK for example there are few groups such as insulate Britain and the Extinction Rebellion who are causing all kinds of problems for the general public by doing things like blocking traffic and even gluing their heads to the road! Until very recently there were no laws against this and so things ground to a halt where these activists were demonstrating! Another prime example is the truck blockade that happened in Canada in protest of very strict measures by the government against people who were protesting against lockdowns and restrictions. This has caused a lot of conflict between these people and the general public and in some cases has led to violence and unrest.

Even today there is no clear consensus as to the extent to which climate change will affect this world, and indeed whether we are even responsible for it or if it is really happening. Nevertheless, there are many people who believe that we are at at a tipping point in terms of CO2 emissions, and if we pass this point there is no return! People who are demonstrating and blocking roads believe that this is a life or death situation for the planet and the way we have been living on it through this great industrial and technological age.

The question is whether you think that their actions are justified, and if causing significant delays and problems for commuters and people trying to go about their daily business. Does a perceived notion of the world being in serious trouble justify their actions, or are they just selfish and even deluded individuals! This is a difficult question because no one can prove the point about climate change until we see the results of it, and since no one is sure, can they really be justified in their actions? This question can of course be extrapolated to other issues that people think are most important, and the same question can be asked. Is it ever OK to demonstrate in a way that may causes harm or troubles to other people who are simply not engaged in these issues? Are there any issues that are so important that it makes it OK to stop others in the street who are trying to make a living and live their lives as they see fit!?

As always there is no right or wrong answer, but your opinion is valuable! It's always good to see what people thing from different parts of the world, and walks of life. If you don’t believe that climate change or the way that we are living is a problem, i am particularly interested to hear if you still think that their actions are justified or not. Perhaps you have taken action yourself and can share a personal story about a time that you took action or joined a demonstration to support a cause. Did you inconvenience others, and how was the experience? DO you think that these actions help the cause or hinder it? Does inconveniencing other people just put their backs up and makes them even less likely to listen to the voices of those speaking, or is this the best way that people can get their voices heard.

Whatever you have to say we want to hear about it! Perhaps you have a better idea or way for people to demonstrate or speak out that you think is more productive? If so please do share it! All viewpoints are welcomed so please do feel free to share what you think!

 

POSTING GUIDELINES

Q. "ARE ACTIVISTS WHO INCONVENIENCE THE GENERAL PUBLIC JUSTIFIED?"

- Share a link to your post in the comments below.

- Use the topic tags qotw and ecotrain when you post.

- We welcome everyone to join us and post your answer to this QOTW.

- Your answer can be a written post, a video, or any way you wish to express yourself.

- You can post anytime from now until Sunday 22 May 2022.

- You must Subscribe to the ecoTrain Community to post.

Please also post a link to your post in the comments so that I will be sure to find it and add it to the weekly tie-up post.

 

How to submit your post to Dreemport

Please visit the DreemPort website and create an account.

The submission date is fixed to Friday so on Friday 20th May only please submit your hive post URL by noon PST in order to compete.

The CURATION of those posts happen on Monday and everyone will see the results on Tuesday!



CHECK OUT OUR PREVIOUS QUESTIONS OF THE WEEK

SEASON 10

SHARE A STORY ABOUT ONE OF YOUR FAVOURITE NATURE EXPERIENCES
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/question-of-the-week-tie-up-post-share-a-story-about-one-of-your-favourite-nature-experiences-thank-you

WHAT HABITS OR ADDICTIONS, BOTH GOOD AND BAD, HAVE YOU DEVELOPED AND WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post-what-habits-or-addictions-both-good-and-bad-have-you-developed-and-which-you-would-like-to-get-rid-of

WHAT THINGS COULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY TO REDUCE CLIMATE CHANGE?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post-what-things-could-we-do-differently-to-reduce-climate-change

WHAT ASPECTS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND HOLISTIC LIVING ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/question-of-the-week-tie-up-post-what-aspects-of-sustainability-and-holistic-living-are-important-to-you

 

 


SEASON 9

IF YOU COULD ASK GOD ONE QUESTION AND GOD WOULD GIVE YOU AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER WHAT WOULD THE QUESTION BE AND WHAT ANSWER WOULD YOU WANT TO HEAR?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post-season-98-if-you-could-ask-god-one-question

WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE FROM A SPIRITUAL PERSPECTIVE?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post-what-does-success-look-like-from-a-spiritual-perspective

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO MEDITATE?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post--why-is-it-so-hard-to-meditate

DO YOU BELIEVE IN DESTINY OR KARMA? CAN BOTH BE TRUE?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post-95-do-you-believe-in-destiny-and-karma-can-both-be-true

CAN SPIRITUALITY AND TECHNOLOGY LIVE TOGETHER?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post-can-spirituality-and-technology-live-together

HAVE YOU EVER WITNESSED A MIRACLE?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-tie-up-post-have-you-ever-witnessed-a-miracle

IF THERE IS A GOD WHY IS THERE SO MUCH SUFFERING IN THE WORLD?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/qotw-92-tie-up-post-wow-what-a-response-from-150-people-if-there-is-a-god-why-is-there-so-much-suffering-in-the-world

WHAT DOES SPIRITUALITY MEAN TO YOU?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-season-91-awards-post-what-does-spirituality-mean-to-you


SEASON 8

WHAT DO WE FEAR, WHY DO WE FEAR?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-awards-post-what-do-we-fear-why-do-we-fear

WHAT PREVENTS ACTION?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-awards-wowwwwwwwwww-what-a-response

WHAT IS THE BEST KIND OF ACTION?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-awards-post-season-85-what-is-the-best-kind-of-action

IF NOT YOU THEN WHO? IF NOT NOW THEN WHEN?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-awards-post-season-84-if-not-you-then-who-if-not-now-then-when

WHAT ACTION DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/ecotrain-qotw-awards-post-season-83-what-action-do-you-think-needs-to-be-taken-to-combat-climate-change

WHAT ACTIONS DO YOU THINK ARE NEEDED IN YOUR LOCAL AREA?
https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@ecotrain/awards-post-ecotrain-question-of-the-week-season-82-what-actions-do-you-think-are-needed-in-your-local-area

WHAT ACTIONS HAVE YOU TAKEN IN YOUR LIFE THAT LED TO POSITIVE CHANGES?
https://peakd.com/hive-109038/@ecotrain/ecotrain-question-of-the-week-awards-post-season-81

 

@ecoTrain

Supporting People Who Help
Make The World A Better Place

** Click Here To View Our Community Page **

CLICK HERE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE ECOTRAIN COMMUNITY


 

Sort:  
There are 2 pages
Pages

It is not effective in extreme cases. Activists sometimes end up causing more pollution (traffic, garbage from protesters) or expensive damage to property or violence. Is is especially cringeworthy when protesters arrive at a rally wearing expensive imported apparel and gadgets made by slave wage laborers in countries contributing far more to world pollution problems.

Activists would gain more respect from their opponents if they were more willing to host open debates with their opponents. Even opponents want to hear good ideas on how we can work together without outright ruining the lives of people who are working hard just for their households to survive. I won't respect anyone forcing their opponents and allies to be silent, be late for work, or be fired while being forced to listen to repetitive angry chants. Saying something over and over doesn't make it more true, it drives people to follow or take the lead away from them.

Well said!

I actually see myself participating in this one.

oh this is such a tough one to answer, coming from the UK I have seen exactly what you are talking about!

like seriously man, this one is really though, but never the less, ill try by best to do something...

It is very tough, and I see that you have written your entry already! Wow, well done I shall have a read in a wee while:)

Alright thank you ..

My pleasure and I have just visited it and read.

Oh.. thank you...

My pleasure and have a good one!

i'm thinking the same tengo! hahahaha my gosh... this one is really gonna be a bit challenging huh???

Yes very challenging and my thoughts change on it constantly Dreemie!

tengooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! hehehehe

its going to be so interesting to see what everyone comes up with right??? hahahaha it will be a great topic, and lots of diversity!!!

actually it is, I keep changing which side of the fence that I am on jaja
ah well maybe I will toss a coin:)

I prefer people don't cross the line between inconvenience and endangerment. Once you endanger my family, all bets are off. I will drive a detour around you, but if you block me and threaten me you are roadkill. I remember that truck driver beaten up after the Rodney King incident.

Well, they're going to be a lot of views on this and I'll love to read them.. for now..this is my entry

https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@chincoculbert/are-activists-who-inconvenience-the-general-public-justified-or-ecotrain-qotw

hahahahaha oh my gosh!!!! I'm really going to be racking my brain on this one @eco-alex!!!!!! LOLOL you really have been taking it a bit easy on us, huh! hahaha

This one is DEFINITELY going to make us dig deeper, think harder, and reason fuller! hahaha

thanks for giving us a really GREAT last question for our final week of collaboration with you!!!! I'm already starting to get my mind churning for this! hahahaha

Even today there is no clear consensus as to the extent to which climate change will affect this world, and indeed whether we are even responsible for it or if it is really happening.

This is not true I'm afraid. There is a clear consensus among many different scientific communities, and the one I'm closest to as an avid scuba diver is that of oceanography, and marine biology.

The mass coral bleaching (over 50% of the world's coral has now died) is an indisputable fact of a marked increase in sea temperature that has affected the world, and there is no evidence to be found of such an event ever happening in the past during a stable period of the earth's geological history. There is only one reason the sea's temperature could be rising and that is mass global warming.

I linked a review above, and if you are interested there is a massive library of independent reviews on the subject, and with a little fact-checking you can check the validity of the scientists writing these reviews: https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=scientific+study+on+mass+coral+bleaching&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

While it is true that some (despicable in my opinion) scientists will preach climate change denial - coincidentally often connected in some way to political figures who are using this issue as a platform for creating division and debates that they can use to split voting demographics - these bought scientists are few in number. They are only seen and listened to because the media love controversy as it will boost viewing figures, so we see their bullsht broadcast at us.

Anyway, all that aside, this is a question I can really get my teeth into as an anarchist. Tbh, I think that most activists who don't upset at least a portion of the general public aren't activists at all 😂

But I shall try to find the time to actually write a proper post in response to this @ecotrain

You served me my homework on a golden platter...😂

I reckon I'm on this one. Post later today.

I reckon I'm on this one. Post later today.

Finally got it done. hehehe I wanted to have a more creative approach, but... hehehe I racked my brain all week and just really had to come at it in a straightforward approach! Thanks for making me dig deep @eco-alex! hehehe

When justification may not be justified

 9 months ago  

I knew u could do it! ;)

hahahahaha i really wanted to be creative with it - and maybe tell a story - so that people could see from the character's view!

but.... i couldn't find the right approach!

but i'm happy with how my post came out! hehehe

My post and answer. I didn't find this hard to answer... but I did take the best part of 7 hours to write it because I, researched some stuff and thought over a lot of things:

https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@raj808/ecotrain-question-of-the-week-are-activists-who-inconvenience-the-general-public-justified

I almost didn't do this one. Glad to have an entry for this week's collaboration. Thanks for the opportunity. Here is my entry

https://peakd.com/hive-123046/@iskafan/yes-activists-who-incite-public-disruption-are-justified

There are 2 pages
Pages