I think that we all need to face some harsh realities. Hive wants to be the social media chain for web3. Part of social media is spam and recycled content. I hate spam and recycled content too but if Hive wants to be a home for ALL social media users and pull them away from facebook and the others we are going to have to accept that some users want to post that way and respond less harshly.
Hive is far more than just a blogging or social media platform for web3 though- there is a lot more going on here and constant development. Recent changes like polygon bridge, valid defi through pools, DLUX bringing additional second layer options, outposts, games, and other changes are all major steps that don't just apply to blogging. If we looked at NUMBERS objectively- Hive is a gaming blockchain- there are for more on chain transactions for Splinterlands than anything else. It's all a matter of perspective and we have to step out of our "cliques" and view the chain as a whole to see everything that is being built.
Hive wants to grow its user base. Part of growth is going to involve change, new users that engage differently, maybe cash out regularly instead of powering up... Users who treat Hive like its their job. Users who only post through DBUZZ, Users that only want to post images, Users that only play the games, Users that only trade tokens to earn profit. Users that only mint and trade NFT's. User's that develop new dapps, games, tools.
All of these users are valid and as the blockchain grows and more people find their own use for the chain we need to be open to those uses.
As far as community goes, I think that new communities are springing up all the time around tokens, ideas, and projects and it's up to us as users to make those communities valuable places to be and be supportive of each other rather than focused on negatives!
!PIZZA
I LOVE this comment.
I agree with all of it (except for the take on spam.)
I say this as one who watched everything we invested poof into thin air after 18 months on another platform that was DESTROYED by spam and plagiarism.
I believe we hold that strong line and show them it doesn't have to be that way. That they can earn without stealing.
My opinion...but it will not change, because when stealing is allowed...it becomes acceptable and then word spreads and then it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to stop.
But the rest.of what you said??? AWESOME. I so agree. Now how do the ones who are already doing it . (Like you) keep pressing forward and take it to the next level?
How do we not stagnate in the fact that what we are doing is enough... But just the beginning.
I think collaboration is a way.. (which makes.me think it might be fun for DreemPort to shine the light on your pizza...or NEXT group story hehe)
And I also think a forum of community leaders with like minds should crop up... Just informal...like those monthly network meetings where people share what they're doing to get others excited.
Hmmm mind churning lol
I wonder if @shadowspub would like to host something like that? A monthly community leader forum?
might be interesting ... would be similar to the witness chats.
Would be interesting to see how many would like to praticipate
I think it would be good to foster connections between tribes and remind everyone that we are all engaged in the same chain. It's sometimes easy to get focused on a specific tribe or frontend and forget that Hive is massive. Even if community leaders just did a regular roundup of developments and changes in their communities and projects it would help new users realize just how massive the scope is and what is possible!
How often have you felt late to the party because you didn't find an announcement post in time! I learned a lot at Hive Fest that I wasn't even aware was happening and I think more regular events to share info like that would be really beneficial to the chain.
don't know about Dreem but when I use the term 'community leader', I'm talking about people like @dreemsteem and others who are doing something to work across the chain. Just because someone forks out some Hive to setup a community, it doesn't make them a leader. For someone to be a leader, there needs to be a purpose that others will follow and share.
I totally agree with that. There needs to be real sustainable effort to keep a community rolling and engaged! A lot of people come to hive for one thing or another and decide to stay because of the people they meet in the process. Without community that couldn't happen.
As you get to know me, you'll find that community and fostering it is important. I'm not real big on silos. I prefer to see people encouraging others doing things.
One of the 'side-effects' of PYPT has been the connections between individuals and projects that have flowed from listening to people talk about what matters to them.
Yesterday, one of the presenters talked about a project he was running that was very close in purpose to another project. We suggested the two connect and discuss collaborating.
i'm getting excited about it hehehehe
i will be looking for you there!!! 😂🤗
yeah - i would be there :)
I'm open to any and all possibilities, collaborations are a good thing and involving folks from across the whole chain to have reasonable discussions about some of our challenges can only be a good thing! I think that folks who are building and engaging on the chain will find their communities and I can't advocate enough for the various community discords as ways to find like minded users and build connections with people. One of the major reasons I am deeply involved with !PIZZA is the focus on community building and the multi-tribe outlook to curation, onboarding, and rewards!
I want to clarify I'm NOT advocating for spam or plagiarism to be rewarded, I'm just pointing out that retweets, shares, paraphrasing and other forms of recycled content are a major factor in all other social media. Hive doesn't have a good way to deal with that aspect yet and it's going to see more and more of it as growth continues!
I love your mindset! (And I kinda want to make that happen hehe)
And I see more of your point now about the recycled media.
However, the biggest difference I see is that people use those things on the OTHER social media and DO NOT get paid for it.
We are getting paid for our work...and thats why it needs to be taken very seriously. Because if Hive is paying people for plagiarized work, that is so very un-good. 😜
It's definitely not good! However- I would say that in some cases on other social media people do get paid for their recycled content. If they have ad revenue they can post recycled viral content that drives traffic and get paid even if it is a retweet or copy pasta. Hive is a different situation where the earnings come from a set amount available in a rewards pool. I certainly think we should protect that reward pool when we can- Copying an article from elsewhere to post on Hive is blatant plagiarism and would (probably) get called out on other socials as well... but I also believe there is value in viral content and Hive makes it hard for users to participate in that!
You know what I do?
When I see things that I'd like to add to my post that are of that nature - I simply put a link to THEIR site. That helps everyone
No one should be coming to my post to give me the activity for THEIR content. They can read my take on it - my views that I've added - but for the actual content itself - I don't just drop it into my post. I drop the link that drive traffic back to THEM and say - here you go if you want to see more.
I think that can be a valid compromise
Yeah that is what I try to do as well! Reblogging etc is one way we can help propagate valuable content as well. There are ways we can make it work for sure.
what exactly do you mean by 'recycled content'?
posting a meme that has been posted elsewhere, paraphrasing someone else's content, retweeting, posting snippets from an article, quoting lyrics without attribution, posting the same content on a different platform, and various other ways that people post on traditional social media that might be frowned upon on hive.
If they created the content they have posted on another platform, it's theirs to post where they want. While there is some overlap, the audiences will be different on each platform.
As for the rest of your list, I'd sort them into spam and outright plagiarism.