I LOVE this comment.
I agree with all of it (except for the take on spam.)
I say this as one who watched everything we invested poof into thin air after 18 months on another platform that was DESTROYED by spam and plagiarism.
I believe we hold that strong line and show them it doesn't have to be that way. That they can earn without stealing.
My opinion...but it will not change, because when stealing is allowed...it becomes acceptable and then word spreads and then it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to stop.
But the rest.of what you said??? AWESOME. I so agree. Now how do the ones who are already doing it . (Like you) keep pressing forward and take it to the next level?
How do we not stagnate in the fact that what we are doing is enough... But just the beginning.
I think collaboration is a way.. (which makes.me think it might be fun for DreemPort to shine the light on your pizza...or NEXT group story hehe)
And I also think a forum of community leaders with like minds should crop up... Just informal...like those monthly network meetings where people share what they're doing to get others excited.
Hmmm mind churning lol
I wonder if @shadowspub would like to host something like that? A monthly community leader forum?
might be interesting ... would be similar to the witness chats.
Would be interesting to see how many would like to praticipate
I think it would be good to foster connections between tribes and remind everyone that we are all engaged in the same chain. It's sometimes easy to get focused on a specific tribe or frontend and forget that Hive is massive. Even if community leaders just did a regular roundup of developments and changes in their communities and projects it would help new users realize just how massive the scope is and what is possible!
How often have you felt late to the party because you didn't find an announcement post in time! I learned a lot at Hive Fest that I wasn't even aware was happening and I think more regular events to share info like that would be really beneficial to the chain.
don't know about Dreem but when I use the term 'community leader', I'm talking about people like @dreemsteem and others who are doing something to work across the chain. Just because someone forks out some Hive to setup a community, it doesn't make them a leader. For someone to be a leader, there needs to be a purpose that others will follow and share.
I totally agree with that. There needs to be real sustainable effort to keep a community rolling and engaged! A lot of people come to hive for one thing or another and decide to stay because of the people they meet in the process. Without community that couldn't happen.
As you get to know me, you'll find that community and fostering it is important. I'm not real big on silos. I prefer to see people encouraging others doing things.
One of the 'side-effects' of PYPT has been the connections between individuals and projects that have flowed from listening to people talk about what matters to them.
Yesterday, one of the presenters talked about a project he was running that was very close in purpose to another project. We suggested the two connect and discuss collaborating.
i'm getting excited about it hehehehe
i will be looking for you there!!! 😂🤗
yeah - i would be there :)
I'm open to any and all possibilities, collaborations are a good thing and involving folks from across the whole chain to have reasonable discussions about some of our challenges can only be a good thing! I think that folks who are building and engaging on the chain will find their communities and I can't advocate enough for the various community discords as ways to find like minded users and build connections with people. One of the major reasons I am deeply involved with !PIZZA is the focus on community building and the multi-tribe outlook to curation, onboarding, and rewards!
I want to clarify I'm NOT advocating for spam or plagiarism to be rewarded, I'm just pointing out that retweets, shares, paraphrasing and other forms of recycled content are a major factor in all other social media. Hive doesn't have a good way to deal with that aspect yet and it's going to see more and more of it as growth continues!
I love your mindset! (And I kinda want to make that happen hehe)
And I see more of your point now about the recycled media.
However, the biggest difference I see is that people use those things on the OTHER social media and DO NOT get paid for it.
We are getting paid for our work...and thats why it needs to be taken very seriously. Because if Hive is paying people for plagiarized work, that is so very un-good. 😜
It's definitely not good! However- I would say that in some cases on other social media people do get paid for their recycled content. If they have ad revenue they can post recycled viral content that drives traffic and get paid even if it is a retweet or copy pasta. Hive is a different situation where the earnings come from a set amount available in a rewards pool. I certainly think we should protect that reward pool when we can- Copying an article from elsewhere to post on Hive is blatant plagiarism and would (probably) get called out on other socials as well... but I also believe there is value in viral content and Hive makes it hard for users to participate in that!
You know what I do?
When I see things that I'd like to add to my post that are of that nature - I simply put a link to THEIR site. That helps everyone
No one should be coming to my post to give me the activity for THEIR content. They can read my take on it - my views that I've added - but for the actual content itself - I don't just drop it into my post. I drop the link that drive traffic back to THEM and say - here you go if you want to see more.
I think that can be a valid compromise
Yeah that is what I try to do as well! Reblogging etc is one way we can help propagate valuable content as well. There are ways we can make it work for sure.
what exactly do you mean by 'recycled content'?
posting a meme that has been posted elsewhere, paraphrasing someone else's content, retweeting, posting snippets from an article, quoting lyrics without attribution, posting the same content on a different platform, and various other ways that people post on traditional social media that might be frowned upon on hive.
If they created the content they have posted on another platform, it's theirs to post where they want. While there is some overlap, the audiences will be different on each platform.
As for the rest of your list, I'd sort them into spam and outright plagiarism.
I recognize and understand that those things might not be very desirable or original but they are a big part of traditional social media which is the point I am trying to get at. If we want Hive to be the social media platform of choice for web3 then we have to be realistic about the kinds of content people are going to want to post. We can't expect users to make a smooth transition from Facebook and Instagram and others if the user experience here is completely different.
They may learn over time on HIVE why those things are undesirable but if they give up because they get called our immediately and downvoted then we are stifling our own growth.
Again I'm not advocating for allowing plagiarized or spam content- I'm just trying to have a realistic perspective on what people expect from social media.