The best way I can quickly explain the Hegelian Dialectic is something like this. Imagine I have staked my future on the fact I have manufactured an antidote to a poison. My shelves are full of it, but it turns out not many people are buying it because instances of such poisoning are rare. Using the Hegelian Dialectic it would be in my interest to find a way to increase the incidents of poisonings of this type in order to increase the demand for my antidote. Now before you start saying "That's Capitalism for you"... It is used for basically any power of manipulation situation. It isn't really a capitalistic technique at all. It is a psychological and manipulation technique. My example was a capitalist example because it was the simplest example of the Hegelian Dialectic that I could come up with here.
Consider these things going on lately:
- Large power outages (poweroutage.us)
- Pipeline shutdown by hackers leading to huge gas shortages at many places. (NPR)
- Michigan pushing to shutdown pipeline from Canada. (gatewaypundit)
- Bridge with crack now shutting down bridge for I-40 across Mississippi river. (Zerohedge)
These are all infrastructure. While we definitely have a big infrastructure problem in this country and Trump tried quite a lot to address that. I remember watching a presentation that was about that and a good plan, but instead the people there just asked him questions about Charlottesville.
Now consider the fact that the Democrats have an infrastructure bill. Yes, it is another one of those bills that has an important sounding name but if you look into it you will see a bait and switch.
I suspect the sudden clustering of infrastructure problems could be Hegelian Dialectic type PROBLEM. The desired solution is to pass the H.R. 2 infrastructure bill (not really what it is) as the solution. The fact people seem to be piling on more problems when they don't need to at a time we are dealing with problems is a pretty strong sign to me.
What do you think? I only started considering this today.
I'll go ahead and see what I can find out about some of these things and add that as information to this post so it might have some value to people. (including myself)
You likely have all been seeing various power outages and other circumstances. I had read the various posts above and some others I didn't link to. It was as I was reading about the bridge across the Mississippi which is shut down (for a very good reason) that I saw some other details and I really started thinking about the Hegelian Dialectic being used to push through the Democrat Infrastructure Bill by putting the public into fear and panic. This seems to be a normal mode of operation these days.
The Bridge - A bridge too far?
From the Zerohedge article linked above:
The bridge carries traffic on I-40 over the Mississippi River between Memphis, Tennessee, and West Memphis, Arkansas. Figures from 2018 showed the bridge carries about 37k vehicles per day. The closure of the bridge has created a logistical nightmare for the metro area.
It was when I read the following statement in that article that something went CLICK and I decided to write this post:
Besides the bridge closure and increasing traffic jams in the area, the US Coast Guard closed a portion of the lower Mississippi River near the bridge. There are "16 vessels with a total of 229 barrages in the queue," the coast guard said in a statement.
Though I read this not long after reading about Governor Whitmer of Michigan whom I personally consider one of the most corrupt and evil Governors in the nation was talking about shutting down the gas pipeline from Canada to the United States at the same time we are already having massive problems due to the pipeline that was shutdown by hackers.
Michigan's Dictatorial Governor
As the county faces sky-high gas prices and gas stations empty because of Biden insane actions and inactions, the corrupt Governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, orders the shutdown of a pipeline.
If the Gateway Pundit article I linked above doesn't do it for you then I'll help give you something that might not be discarded by mental spam filters. (MSN)
Governor Gretchen Whitmer is taking legal action to force the shutdown of the Line 5 Pipeline that links Lake Michigan and Lake Huron.
This Governor has a pretty well established record of operating with a Hegelian Dialectic mindset. I provide you the following articles. Keep in mind this was early in the COVID outbreak but when it had already been well known that the elderly and those with co-morbidities were the highest group at risk from COVID.
May 22nd, 2020 (Almost a year ago) - Michigan nursing home patient beaten in brutal attack caught on video
Detroit police later announced that they arrested the 20-year-old while the victim was sent to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.
July 28th, 2020 - Elderly Man Dies After Nursing Home Beating By Young COVID Patient [VIDEO]
Why is this important with regards to Whitmer? This guy was 20 years old. He was diagnosed with COVID-19. They sent him (Just like in New York) to stay in a Nursing Home among the most vulnerable population to COVID.
In the Hegelian Dialectic that is the Creating the Problem stage. The end result of that should logically be an artificially increased number of Deaths due to COVID.
What did Whitmer and others use it for?
August 9th, 2020 - The Trump Pandemic: A blow-by-blow account of how the president killed thousands of Americans.
January 17th, 2021 - 'Blood on his hands': As US surpasses 400,000 COVID-19 deaths, experts blame Trump administration for a 'preventable' loss of life
When you see the term "Experts" these days I personally recommend you come to attention and be on guard. These days people are not taught much about the fallacy known as the Argument from Authority Fallacy which used to be taught in Critical Thinking. It is sometimes called an Appeal to Authority. The hope is by referring to someone as an expert you will immediately trust and accept what is stated without requiring any evidence, proof, being able to ask questions, etc. You are just blindly supposed to believe "experts".
Do any of you remember that in the past the Doctors promoted cigarettes? They were experts.
In 1964 at the prompting of the Surgeon General they finally started doing studies. Today we all know about cigarettes. What we know is not what the "experts" were claiming back in the day.
Or how about when the Nazi's "experts" were blaming everything on Jews so they could then get the publics support in first putting stars on them, then putting them on trains, then sending them to camps, and later killing them and using them for human experimentation.
It didn't happen immediately and overnight. It took a lot of propaganda and dehumanization to make it to...
and
It is what the "Experts" were telling the public should happen.
These days they just make the population very afraid and get them to wear...
to show they are buying into what they should be afraid of. It is the star of the day. They don't have to put anyone onto trains. They line up to be Human Guinea Pigs. They are much more successful at the techniques the Nazis employed than the Nazis could have ever dreamed of. They have mastered the art of propaganda at the same time they are dumbing down the education so people don't learn critical thinking techniques that might make them less susceptible to the propaganda.
Lining up for the vaccines that have no long term information and are only being authorized under an Experimental Use Authorization act. People are not only lining up to be human trials, they are trying to shame, coerce, and when possible mandate (aka force) others to take them.
"I am going to take this product we have no long term studies on, and I think EVERYONE should do it too!!! In fact if they don't want to that is too bad we should force them."
That seems rather stupid to me. People seem fine with embracing stupidity if someone that was given the label "Expert" tells them to, they are instilled with enough fear by the media, and they are too concerned about not fitting in with the crowd if they do otherwise.
The term... Sheeple comes to mind.
(image from youtube video no longer available - The Nazi's were really good at censorship in order to protect their desired narrative too.)
The Infrastructure Bill
Now let's look at this Infrastructure Bill I am suspecting they are engaging the Hegelian Dialectic to try to ram through...
We’ve heard both major political parties talk about the need for an infrastructure bill for several years now. With President Biden, we’re finally getting it. Or are we?
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Is President Biden being duplicitous in pushing a Green New Deal agenda he formerly opposed? Almost assuredly. During the presidential debates in October of 2020, Biden said, “No, I don’t support the Green New Deal.” Yet in that same conversation Biden also bragged, “The Green New Deal will pay for itself as we move forward.”
The Green New Deal calls for a complete upheaval of American society to not just tackle climate change, but also change the U.S. economy. This was clear when one of its authors, Saikat Chakrabarti, the former chief of staff to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., was quoted in The Washington Post: “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all … Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.”
Trump
President Trump actually had a good plan for Infrastructure. As with his entire administration though nothing positive could be shared from him by the media.
I watched that and it was actually good. The questions at the end would become the norm. Rather than talk about Infrastructure they focused on Charlottesville. They didn't care about the infrastructure then. They just wanted to attack Trump.
It turns out the things people were saying about Charlottesville and the left and the media were calling lies were true. New drone footage from that event has been released showing that what people like Trump were claiming was actually accurate and what the media was reporting was fabricated. It's hard to miss from lengthy top down videos.
Closing
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am suspecting this is being done to cause people into panicing to ram through the H.R. 2 bill. What do you think?
EDIT: I wanted to add this satirical headline from the Babylon Bee that made me laugh... a little humor in light of all of the negatives...
What makes me angry is the fact that we need some extra infrastructure bill to begin with. This is the sort of thing the exhorbitant taxes collected should be going to on a regular basis. We should never have an infrastructure crisis. Meanwhile we've been hearing about massive infrastructure bills since at least Obama era stimulus. 700 billion here, a trillion there yet here we are with a seemingly neverending and increasing infrastructure problem.
I agree. We have built some amazing and insanely expensive infrastructure in other countries during the time our own infrastructure is collapsing.
But...but...we need a sustainability manager, director of racial inequality and the office of fairness for these shovel ready jobs, you pleb! And if you don't agree, then you're a racist!
I must say I agree with you
Maybe, just maybe they are trying to instill fear into us so that we can accept their bill
They are getting good at this manipulative technique that they bring up situations in the form of infrastructure, making it seem as though we really need it, then we will accept it
our minds have gotten so dull, that we no longer know the difference between good reasoning and fallacious reasoning
And because we are afraid of not fitting in, we will run and embrace whatever it is the government bring up in our daily living
How do we stop them, anyway? Do you know the answer to this question, @dwinblood?
I am starting to think we might have to let them experience where their idiotic ideas lead. A lot of people will likely die in the process. There is no telling how long the new dark ages might last, but they'd either be proven correct (I personally don't think likely) or they will be forced to live through their dumb ass world with no one else left to blame.
They would still try for awhile. Now this is also assuming they don't move onto the next stage of the cycle with historical precedent they are following and start killing, experimenting upon, enslaving, etc. anyone that disagrees with them.
That will only tide them over for awhile... then they have to eat their own. They already do that to some degree. Looking for victims, and oppressors is their modus operandi.
If they eliminate all of us they'd still be in that mode and they will turn it upon the others that think similar to them. Noticing smaller and smaller differences to attack.
This will be pure madness
I mean if after they have all of us wasted, they turn to their own folks, and find faults in them too?
Wow so much for their inherent instability. There are cankerworms and the virus that needs to be vaccinated on average.
It is a pity though because I agree they have to be left to their own ruin
We can still try to wake some of them up. I won't stop trying. Yet I don't think I can do so nearly as fast as they destroy things.
How do you intend to wake them up, if I may ask?
I have succeeded a number of times in the past. A small fraction of attempts, but they still matter. There are even people here that were glad when I came back that told me that talking to me changed a lot of how they view the world. Those people also still freely debate me, but they do it with thought and they actually agree with me in some areas they didn't before. :) They can at least see when someone is trying to con them and manipulating them with fear, emotions, and common logical fallacies.
EDIT: And they also teach me new things as well. It isn't other minds that I change. The process also changes my own.
I talk just like I am. I debate with them. Some I fail. Occasionally I succeed. I never expect anyone to immediately agree with me. That is a super rare occurrence. I just view it like tossing seeds. Perhaps some of the thoughts will take root.
All I really want is for people to think for themselves and stop picking people to trust as the people to do their thinking for them.
They shouldn't blindly agree with me. That would be bad as well.
Yet if people can learn how to think for themselves instead of relying on others to do the thinking we might be able to fix things.
They still wont be able to use the ferries.
I won't give in to their demands EVER. I will not however, stand in their way if in their city for example they vote to defund the police. In such cases I think the police should be defunded, and the police if they are wise will move somewhere that appreciates them. These people don't listen when you try to reason with them. They are lead by emotions. Mostly fear, outrage, and anger. One of the few things that seems to get their attention is pain and inconvenience in their own lives. What happens when there are no police? I have my suspicions. I wouldn't want to live in such a place. Yet should I stop them from trying it there?
There is the possibility and potential that people will take responsibility. Fill the gap. People, if you don't pressure them but leave them free, opt for the right choices. They act dumb if they are unfree and distrusted. We, the people, need to be "the police".
The overall thing they want is more control over everyone.
Poorly spending tax payer dollars easily leads to huge issues that require government intervention.
Politician: Let's give everyone a monthly payment [collected from the unicorn money tree]
Sane Person: But, giving them the money will just cause inflation, which will leave them worse off than before.
Politician: No, you lie! There is no proof that throwing out money causes inflation!!
....9 months later
News: Inflation hits 13 year highs!
Politician: How did this happen?!?!
Yep. If people bothered to pay attention and had longer attention spans than say 6 months (most don't even have that) then most of this stuff wouldn't happen.
Especially if they bother to learn from history. Actual history, not this rewriting of history to fit a desired narrative like the 1619 push.
6 months is generous.
I fear for 40 years from now, everything will be re-written and 2021 will probably be seen as some great year for everyone.
I said 6 months because for decades now I've several times seen some things that were majorly important that people seemed to have forgotten things 6 months before when they were making their decision.
I noticed it when I was younger and Bob Dole was running for president (a long time ago). He gave a speech. 6 months later he gave another speech that completely contradicted his previous speech and I noticed that virtually no one remembered that earlier speech. He got away with essentially fishing for votes...
That bait didn't work...
Let me switch and try this bait...
Tell people what they want to hear and keep changing what you say until you get the most interest.
That was not at all unique to him. That just happens to be my earliest memory of noticing it.
Fear sells. And fear of pain sells. Empty promises of safety are also big sellers. The sheeple are so willing to give up so much to feel like they are safe. It is very sad what we are watching.
I would agree as all they ever seem to use is this method because IT WORKS and so well. Why bother promoting their hideous ideas for the future and sugar coating it when they can just open the gate, let out the bulls and wait for us to beg them to sort out the mess. It's evil genius but not so clever when everyone starts spotting the pattern like you just have.
For people outside of the POB community: This is sarcasm. Don't quote me on this
But the "science is settled" @dwinblood. There are "scientifically proved to reduce irritation."
Maybe that is why I have allergies sometimes. I never smoked.