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RE: What are Hive's chances for survival?

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Brought to you by the Hive marketing initiative 'How to sell Hive to the world'...
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The REAL hive road map....

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Logic and a lesson in critical thinking #101
1/Tyrannical structures never endure.
2/Hive is a tyrannical structure.
3/ Therefor Hive will.....

For the more in depth critique, here's a post I made on blurt just now.

https://blurt.blog/blurtlife/@lucyreloaded/why-hive-will-fail-hubris-stupidity-and-not-understanding-human-psychology

My hive account has been downvoted to zero on every post, by scared control freaks, for the last 9 months (and most of the large upvoted comments also)

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From your attitude in this post, I think I can relate to why people react to you as they do.

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I've never downvoted you. I think it fuckin sucks you and frot and and and.... and and and... downvoted because difference in opinion.

I see the big curation accounts downvoting opinions these days too. I don't think delegators and trailers are paying attention.

I recognize a few names on your blurt awards. Sorry it's like this. Good luck to you sir. 👊🏼

...the names are not important (they don't mean a lot- it's just an account name).
The cabal runs deep.

A soon as I've recouped my d/v losses from talking about hive - I'll be gone.('it's on principle', kind of thing - many wouldn't understand this on here lol)

I just hope that my efforts in recouping the lost rewards helps to put Hive where it truly belongs...
I know for a fact that a couple individuals with more money than most on here won't be looking at this platform as potential investment material.

Wait for my 'video discussion' with Bix Weir - he explains why DPoS/hive will not grow/thrive, in the new paradigm, quite beautifully.
(it's quite the eye opener).

I should probably know a lot more before entering into this comment lol but - I'm just gonna speak without all the info. lol

I dont see any problem with people posting from hive or blurt or steem or any other platforms for that matter (of course, anyone who knows about my project - knows that we accept posts from all platforms - and we have a presence on those platforms too)

But I wish that you would have spent the time to actually make a real appeal for people - if you thought Blurt was better. I can't imagine that people on hive that are actually looking for something else would look at your comment and think that they'd go there when what you're advertising feels like a lot of hate. Feel free to correct me! but my point is - if no one knew anything about hive or blurt, or you or the people downvoting you - but only saw your comment? they'd probably just ignore you. And if you think blurt is really better - why not take the opportunity to make a valid case for it - instead of insulting the people on hive to make them want to stay away? no?

Oh, there's a lot more to that story. Trust me.


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gahhh. I don't know what this is in reference to because @lucylin is a rule breaker and wrote long comments. 🤣 (shhhh dont look at my comments in response @scholaris.pob !!!! just look at his! hahahahaha)

but yeah - i'm not sure what story you're talking about hahaha

Feel free to extrapolate away - I have no fear of the truths....I'm just too bloody busy right now! ...

what you're advertising feels like a lot of hate

....that might be because I hate philosophical absurdity, intellectual dishonesty, and financial manipulations that rewards the powerful, and punish the less powerful...I'm funny like that.

On a philosophical note - if you don't hate those qualities that I've just mentioned above - then what does that say about you?...(not a psychological analysis but an opportunity to know yourself).

I live my life through a filter of philosophy, morals and ethics. Did you read the link to the post on blurt?...If so, you would understand my position clearly.
Do you not hate dishonesty ?

I think you misunderstood me.

I was saying - you are advertising blurt, but doing so with a lot of hate. It feels like you're saying - "If you are filled with hate, then come to blurt" and I'm saying - how is that appealing to people?

I know a lot of honest people on Hive, and I'm sure there are many dishonest as well. Peaceful people on Hive, and Hate filled people on Hive.
But you're not really saying that Blurt is only filled with honesty, peaceful people - right?

Social platforms are reflections of the world. It shouldn't be surprising to anyone that there are serious imperfections with them when the world itself is filled with serious imperfections.

My point was - if you had a chance to actually show how Blurt is better - why not actually use the attempt to show it instead of leaving an angry comment... (on a platform that you hate?)

  • which begs the question... why are you reading posts on Hive if you are happy on Blurt? I'm seriously asking - because there are a lot of people that will read this and some are considering leaving Hive. Why not actually make a serious appeal to them?

Asking them if they "hate dishonesty" is probably not the way to go - because I was over there on blurt today and saw plagiarism there (just like I saw it on Hive) so obviously dishonesty is on BOTH platforms.

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ok so now i'm SUPER curious hahahaa

If you love his statement, then why are you happy to be on Hive? According to what @lucylin is saying - anyone who is seeing what he is saying shouldn't be here - but you're still pretty active and committed to Hive (forgive me if i'm wrong! LOL that's just my impression)

so - I'm missing something! LOL help me to see what I'm missing @mineopoly

People have different experiences here. Not all of it is good. I will give Lucylin credit that he has never had a problem with voicing his observations. I still think his situation is a special case.


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I don't know - the conversation has kinda gone a bit away from the point of the post LOL I'm intentionally not upvoting his comments (not because of agree/disagree... because we ARE agreeing on certain things!) but because they're kinda taking away from the point of the post - so we are having a conversation down below.. hahahaha

I'm not sure if his situation is different from others that I've seen. I can think of 4 accounts right now where people have complained about downvote abuse that isn't about spam/plagiarism but about a disagreement of opinion - where whales are taking posts to 0, continuously -just because they can.

I've voiced my opinion on that several times and said - I don't agree - BUT that is STILL the Modus Operandi of Hive. and until that changes - it's "permissable" although not "beneficial" (in MY opinion lol)

I DO think that should really change. But - as it stands now - that is how Hive works and according to the system - it stands.

The only way to make it change is to appeal to people's sensibility for the longevity of Hive (which hasn't worked so far)

If you love his statement, then why are you happy to be on Hive? According to what @lucylin is saying - anyone who is seeing what he is saying shouldn't be here

riddle me this..

How do you fight in trenches, when all oyu have is rifle, while being 30 miles behind enemy lines?

I'll wait for a logical answer ...I'll wait a looong time, in fact... lol

There is a logical answer of course: Get the enemy to come to you.
(see - didn't have to wait that long!)

And ideally - if you can meet, talk reasonably, and come to a compromise - THAT is the OPTIMAL logical answer.

Is it likely to happen? No, not likely. But stranger things have happened.

I mean hey - look at how this conversation started - and look at where it is now? 😁

but Im still very curious to hear @mineopoly's answer because I very much respect that guy! hehehe

fighting - the engaging in conflict...NOT writing.(edit- writing?- ffs lol - WAITING) Soz... fail! lololol

Yeah, I miss the steem days, when engaging conversation was non stop...(and guess what?..While I'm a little busy to spend as much time as I'd like on blurt right now, (for various, and obvious reasons)...the 'quality engagement' on blurt is something I've already noticed emerging...

My point was for fighting/ engaging in conflict. Give the enemy a reason to approach. (I wasn't talking about writing, and if you don't know how to get the enemy to approach... lol then that might be one of the problems with your technique.)

As far as engaging on blogs... lol - I never am short of engaging conversations on Hive.

As you can see just with us in my post here. lol

and when I go to other people's posts, I do the same. engage genuinely because I enjoy it immensely. And it is HIGH quality engagement because we make it so.

and when its not high quality in intelligence - its high quality in fun because that's the kind of relationships I foster.

so - I probably WILL write on blurt, in the same way that I'll need to write on my vocal account - and other team members are on medium and even on steem,etc. Because our project connects people across platforms, as I said. so - when I go there - I will most definitely be bringing the same fun and genuine engagement I have here.

I will say though - I'm sure that you're finding a new place to grow there so you may be biased. Because I have heard of people trying out blurt and coming back to hive because of all the spam and LACK of quality engagement.

So my point to that is - platforms are what ALL THE PEOPLE make it.

My point was for fighting/ engaging in conflict. Give the enemy a reason to approach. (I wasn't talking about writing, and if you don't know how to get the enemy to approach... lol then that might be one of the problems with your technique.)

Continuing in the military metaphor...I'm gonna pull rank! lol
You misunderstand tactics, strategy, and psychology.
(having studied military history for 30 years, and philosophy and psychology for 7 or so)
The enemy is approaching me with every down vote.
I've been playing 'defensive' for 9 months... Intentionally, btw.
I'll soon be on the offensive (and the snowflakes on here already think that 'I'm offensive' lol !!....they ain't seen nothing yet).

I'm more than happy to explain the philosophical/tectical/strategic employed so far to you ....(again 'this kind of stuff' is my hobby, my passion, and my very raison d'etre)
i.e..I'm not using the 'appeal to authority' logical fallacy in my arguments.

I just don't have that time to do so right now, is all.