today let us discuss about football, i hope we love football here ,
among this six great players who is the greatest player of all time
*Pele never played in Europe & never won Copa America (lost
final).
*Maradona never won UCL & never won Copa America.
*Ronaldo Nazario never won UCL.
*Cristiano never played in World Cup Final & never won
'Golden Ball' in international tournaments.
*Sir Johan Cruyff never won an International Trophy.
*Leo Messi won all of these
above & total 37 Trophies. (most amongst them)
for me Messi is the greatest player of all time
Well i prerfer cristiano ronaldo but lionel messi is truly a great player..
I respect both messi and ronaldo,but to be fair i think messi is really the real G.O.A.T
Amazing facts didn't really know about this. I however don't think because Messi got to the final or won the golden ball makes him the better player. I believe Pele and delima won the world cup so that puts them in a great position.
messi has more Ballon d'Or than both pele and delima all together, messi won more individual international awards, he recently won the copa America and won the best player of the tournament and the highest goal scorer and still the highest assist provider of same tournament, he is the first and still the only player to do such in the history of international tournaments and dont forget that he is the first and still the only one to do it in championship league
The things is such argument will continue to exist. He is a great player no doubt but I wouldnt say he his the greatest has players like the above mentioned still has something that outweigh all his individual records which he has, whether you like it or not which is the FIFA World Cup.
maradona never won copa America and he has won the cup now, he doesn't have a world cup but he was once a world cup best player and the runner up which is second, he is going to have is 7th Ballon d'Or which covers the loss of world cup @jersteemit try to understand leo messi is the greatest player of all time
Yeah now you are finally coming back to where I originally stand at the end as it concerns this subject matter. This is the single reason no player deserves the greatest of all time has they all have one dent in their legacy as they all never achieved everything all. He can have as many individual accolades has he can that still doesn't accord him with that status of GOAT has no one player deserves that
but among the past and present players he has achieved more and play better than them so that makes him the greatest among them,in the coming generation we can still have a player better than him and such person take over that title
Concerning individual achievement yeah maybe. But been a better player than them you mean in terms of what metrics exactly? As he isn't the highest goal scorer or Highest assist of all time. Cristiano Ronaldo has more goals in all competition than him when compared in that regards. So you see that aspect will continue to be subjective.
For sure in the coming years, new breeds of players will come up and will shatter those records as I guess that's why records are there for in the first place, a standard to be conquered
Arguably they are all the best in their own time and I want to believe most of us here today did not really grow up to see those players on the field of play.
We are only familiar with ronaldo and Messi, permit to say even some didn't see Messi and ronaldo playing at their early days,they start seeing them when they are already going out of sight now,free will say they know Messi in 2008 or even Ronaldo in 2006,but some got to know them when the society at large start talking about them.
So of this reason I don't really join the debate as to who is the greatest not all time,but prefer today thee greatest not Thier own generation and trust me base on my opinion I will always give it to a man that has played in more than 3 countries and at the big stage of his life and that has set one record or the other every where the got to
Recently he went on level with Alli daei of Iran on the highest goal score by a single player in menu international football.
Am taking about no other person,but Cristiano Ronaldo,he is the best of his generation
Interesting submission. Also agree with most of the points you discussed. We didn't see other players in their dispensation so it will be difficult to categorically single out one player in this era has the greatest of all time.
Also Portugal international Cristiano Ronaldo has great footballer to have graced the football pitch. His consistent displays on the pitch and that which he showed across England, Spain and now Italy is really commendable.
I for one will pick him ahead has he has gone to different countries to prove him self unlike the diminutive Argentine that has been in a single club all his life and he is a shadow when he comes to his national. He is not doubt a also good player but we all have preferences and another cannot just force into how throat who feels is the greatest.
At the end of the day, this argument or debate will continue no matter what evidence or statistics you chose to pull out. I'd rather we all be grateful for the talents of football stars that have graced the football pitch and appreciate good football while we still have the two living legends who currently still blesses us with their frequent displays still playing.