Mandela Effect: So You're From the Alternate Universe.

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Have I really not written a Mandela Effect post yet?

Considering how much conspiracy theory I've written on this blockchain since 2017 that's actually hard to believe... and yet when I search my entire blogging history I only bring it up in passing a single time. Pretty weird considering I know I was looking into it several years ago and it would have definitely made for an interesting post. HM!

Well I guess we'll start at the beginning then.

The Mandela Effect began in 2009.

Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela was a South African anti-apartheid activist, politician, and statesman who served as the first president of South Africa from 1994 to 1999. He was the country's first black head of state and the first elected in a fully representative democratic election.

The Mandela effect refers to a situation in which a large mass of people believes that an event occurred when it did not. The term was originated in 2009 by Fiona Broome, after she discovered that she, along with a number of others, believed that Nelson Mandela had died in the 1980s (when he actually died in 2013).

So in 2009, before Nelson Mandela had even died, many people remember him having died in prison back in the 80s. When they found out he was still alive it was a very confusing situation. This is something I can't personally speak to because I was born in the 80s, but the timing of 2009 is definitely interesting and sets the tone.

It seems to have gotten worse.

The last time I was looking into this (however many years ago, BC: before covid) I remember there being far fewer examples than there are now. Today the examples are so numerous isn't actually starting to creep me out because it's a lot more difficult to explain away at this point.


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Memory is fallible.

The human brain has a tendency to remember things quite imperfectly. This is a known fact and we tend to fill in the blanks with context clues cues based on the limited information we have. Given this known fact it's easy to explain away how and why many different people would remember something happening in a way that it didn't.

At the same time this doesn't explain why this would have all started happening in 2009. A psychological "mass formation psychosis" (as it were) popping up all around us should have been well documented around the 1960s at the latest. So we really have to ask ourselves why it took so long to notice this was happening. The only logical explanation is that the Mandela Effect could not exist without the Internet and social media.

The number of users jumped from 12 million in 2006 to 50 million in 2007, which doubled to 100 million by the end of 2008. In 2012, the year Facebook reached one billion users, it went public, valued at $104bn.

We can see that Facebook started gaining mainstream adoption around this time, so it is possible that the Mandela Effect is a direct result of social media and the ability to have this collective brain. Is that collective brain hallucinating? Or is the conspiracy theory actually true?

So what's the conspiracy?

It is believed that CERN particle collision could be manipulating the very fabric of reality as we know it. We could literally be changing the past, or rather... not changing the past but tinkering with the fifth dimension in ways that we don't even understand. It is believed that we even may have destroyed old dimensions and merged with alternate ones.

What also makes this interesting is the 2009 timeline.

When did the Mayan calendar end? 2012. Many people thought the world as we know it might end in that year. For all we know that's exactly what happened because 2012 was also the year that CERN discovered the "GOD PARTICLE" known as Boson Higgs.

The particle was finally discovered on July 4, 2012, by researchers at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) — the most powerful particle accelerator in the world — located at the European particle physics laboratory CERN, Switzerland.

So... yeah...

All of this also just randomly happens to coincide with other coincidences like Marvel Studios movies embracing their MULTIVERSE storyline of infinite dimensions. Obviously that means nothing because whatever but also a couple years back I was joking with my girlfriend that she was a doppelganger from another timeline because she has an iron trap memory but was suddenly forgetting a lot of the conversations we had or things that we did together, sometimes seemingly remembering a completely different but similar timeline. I didn't think much of it at the time but also as far as the Mandela test is concerned she's from this timeline, and I'm from the old one.

What's the test?

How do you know if you're from the old (potentially destroyed) timeline or this new one? Well this website has a lot of good examples. Many of these examples are old and are the same ones I remember from years back, but there are also new ones that seemingly have popped up out of nowhere. Fun stuff!

So let's go over some of the old classics first.

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If you remember a peanut butter brand called Jiffy: it never existed. It's always been Jif. This one is easily explained away because there are fake brands of peanut butter on episodes of the Simpsons and things like that which could have easily created a false memory. But still, I remember Jiffy, do you?

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Remember cartoons as a child?

I mean obviously it was Looney TOONS and not Looney Tunes, right? Well if you look back Looney Toons never existed, event though "Tunes" makes zero sense. It's not musical. These are cartoons, not cartunes. They are toons for short.

This one is harder to ignore because if we look back to old movies like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" everything is still the same. They are all "toons" and they live in literal "Toontown". Why would it ever be Tunes? It's just weird. Why would you ever call cartoons "tunes" for short? It's a completely different word and meaning.

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This one hits me particularly hard.

When I was a child my mother would read me this book series. This is a core memory of my childhood. Core memories are those things that get burned into your brain (around age 4 to 8) and don't change: ever.

This one is particularly upsetting because as a child I was very bad at spelling (still am honestly). I very distinctly remember it being spelled BERENSTEIN because I could never spell it. In fact my mother pronounced Berenstein exactly the same as Berenstain and I have a memory of wondering why it would be spelled Berenstein because that's such a stupid way to spell it and it just confused the hell out of me.

And then, after all that, I'm told that The Berenstein Bears NEVER EXISTED. It was NEVER SPELLED THAT WAY. Well then how the fuck do I have a core childhood memory so strong about it being spelled in that super confusing and stupid way? Make it make sense.

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Oscar Meyer never existed.

It's always been Mayer apparently. This is another one of those spelling situations that I remember confusing me. I remember thinking, "Wait, Meyer is pronounced... 'my-er'???" That's weird. Nope. Apparently Oscar Meyer never existed.

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Sketchers were popular but I never owned a pair so I feel like I shouldn't speak to this one... but I swear it had a T in there.

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This one is like the opposite of "toons" and "tunes".

Pretty sure it used to be spelled fruit like the normal dictionary word.
Apparently not.
I ate this cereal many times as a kid.

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This one is a little weird because I remember the Monopoly Man both with and without a monocle. This one is often explained away because Mr. Peanut had a monocle... but I have a hard time understanding how our brains could mix up the monopoly man with Mr. Peanut.

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I was never into Pokemon but my roommate confirms that he did indeed used to have a black-tipped tail. Personally I don't remember either way, even though I played Nintendo Smash Brothers a lot back in the day on N64.

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1000% Kit-Kat has a hyphen.

I ate so many of these as a kid.
Apparently it doesn't and never did.

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This one is weird because I always hated the Fruit of the Loom branding when I was a kid... but I swear it used to have that cornucopia in the background. The brand looks stupid and naked without it. It just looks completely wrong.

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This is one I should remember but don't.

I know people always called them CHEESE-ITS because it was plural.
It's not like you'd just be eating one of them.
I can't speak to this one.

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Here's a main one that's got people riled.

Snow White is once again one of those core memory movies. I've seen this movie dozens of times as a child as have many millennials. The line was always, "Mirror Mirror on the wall." Seriously though "Magic" is a completely different and very memorable word. Magic is magic, it's very distinctive. This was never the line, but apparently it was and it always has been.

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Here are the new ones that are really starting to freak me out.

I'm pretty sure the examples above were around the last time I looked Mandela up years back. However there are some new ones that are seriously making me question my sanity.

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LOL!?!?!?!?!?

What the hell? I've heard this stupid song so many times. It was created in 2008 and the line was, "I'm so 2008, You're so 2000 and late." That was the ENTIRE POINT OF THE LINE. It was specifically dated to the current year. Turns out in this timeline the song came out in 2009 so the lyrics are 3008 instead of 2008. Bro, that doesn't even make any goddamn sense. She's specifically talking about being current and up-to-date, not 1000 years into the future. What?

This one is of particular interest because 2009 is right when this all began.

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Bruv are you shitting me right now?

C-3P0 never had a goddamn silver leg. WTF?
I have seen this movie 1000 times.
That leg sticks out like a sore thumb.
It's simply not possible to miss.

This is the one that freaked me out the most so I had to look into it further.
How are people justifying this?

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It's basically saying in the old versions it's a lot harder to make out... but honestly I don't know. Star Wars is just one of those cultural touchstones in which many people made their whole personality. The problem I see with these justifications is that rather than trying to ask the right questions everyone just tries to explain it away.

The right questions are asking things like when did people start noticing the silver leg? When did the silver leg become more visible? There's a remastered version in 1997. Blah blah blah.

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There is a strong argument to be made that VHS vs DVD vs Blueray is a huge difference, but still the people trying to disprove the Mandela Effect or explain it away are starting with the assumption that it's just a normal psychological effect of remembering things incorrectly. Any one of these incidences on its own certainly can be explained away... but all of them at once? Not as easy.

If you sat me down and gave me a test on these I'm pretty sure it would show on a statistical level that something is up. Rather than do actual experiments people are just coming up with rationalizations to explain it away. I think that's a pretty weak way of going about it honestly. Science doesn't seem to be taking this seriously.

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The FLINT-STONES?

Two captial 'T's front-and-center right next to each other?
Really? Uh lol okay if you say so.
It's definitely flin-stones though.
Just saying.

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Play it again, Sam.

I can hear the words and the voice... even though I don't think I've actually seen Casablanca (at least not all the way through). This was a quote that was quoted over and over and over again. This is one I'd really like to ask my stepmom about because I'm pretty sure Casablanca is one of her favorite movies.

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We're gonna need a bigger boat?

Never happened.
Sorry Jaws fans.

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The full quote:

Mama always said: life is like a box of chocolates; you never know what you're gonna get.

This one is interesting for a couple of reasons. First off, it's supposed to be a direct quote of what his mom is saying. It doesn't make logical sense that he would say "was" in the past-tense because that's not how is mom would have said it.

On the other side of this coin it would make sense that we all collectively are remembering it wrong because it would have been misquoted incorrectly an infinite number of times. No one quoting the movie would have said "was" even if it was technically accurate. I haven't seen this movie in forever so maybe the mom even says it correctly once? Unsure. Apparently Tom Hanks is a satanic pedophile in this timeline so that's unfortunate as well. But that's an insane conspiracy that I can't even delve into right now.

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I don't have a strong memory of Risky Business.

But I swear this iconic scene included cool-kid sunglasses.

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I never liked Lord of the Rings

It was boring and slow as hell, but when Gandalf said "Run, you fools!" it was definitely one of the most exciting and iconic parts. Apparently that never happened.

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Okay what the fuck.

Hannibal Lecter never said "HELLO CLARICE" in the creepiest way ever? He actually just said... checks notes... "good morning"??? LOL. WHAT!?!? No. Immediately no. Fuck this timeline.

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We are the Champions...

OF THE WORLD.
Yeah, because that's the song.
Obviously.

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BRO SURVIVED?

He didn't get run over by a tank!?!
Hm!
Wasn't the entire point that China is that fucked up?
Guess not.

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If you build it, they will come.

Who is "he"? "He" will come? What? No. They will come. "They" being the multiple professional baseball players that show up when Costner creates the Field of Dreams. What? I've seen this movie dozens of times.

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Easy misquote?

"Beam me up, Scotty," never existed? I mean this one is easy to explain away by itself because so many people would have been saying it wrong on purpose. But still... taken with everything else it's just weird.

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Luke, I am your father.

This is an old one that was around the last time I was looking into the Mandala Effect. The classic line where Vader reveals his true lineage. This is another one of those quotes that's easy to explain away because people requoting it would have said "Luke" instead of "No" because "No" doesn't make sense out of context. It also would make sense that "No" was correct because "No" answered the question that was posed in the line before. "Did he tell you what happened to your father?" "He told me you killed him." "No, I am your father."

Verify, don't trust

However I very much remember it being, "Luke, I am your father," and I've seen the movie dozens of times as a kid. You know what else I remember? Other movies that have quoted this line. I was determined to fine my own unique example. And then it hit me: In the movie Knocked Up, Seth Rogan has a gasmask on connected to a bong.

I have seen the movie Knocked Up dozens of times as well, and I know Seth Rogan says, "Luke, I am your stoner" laughing with a gasmask on. It's one of those movies my ex-girlfriend would just put on as background noise. It was on constantly. Guess what I found when I looked up the clip?

He never says it.

Rather in Knocked Up Seth Rogan says, "HEY! I am your stoner." It literally doesn't even make sense anymore. I was fully expecting to find Seth Rogan misquoting it by saying 'Luke' but he doesn't. The joke doesn't even make sense now. How is anybody supposed to know he's quoting Star Wars in this scene if he doesn't say 'Luke'? It's complete nonsense. And yet here it is.

I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that he says, "Luke, I am your stoner," here... because again the joke doesn't make sense without it. This movie has been on in the background dozens of times. I've heard this line over and over and over again. Now the quote is nonsensical within this new timeline and doesn't exist as I've heard it a dozen times over.

Conclusion

Are the elites manipulating the timeline to their own benefit? Are scientists just playing with forces they don't understand? It's possible. Pay attention to anyone just trying to explain away this phenomenon with rational explanation. Ask them the simple and obvious question: How crazy does this need to get before you admit it's real? For me it's escalated to a point I can no longer ignore. I couldn't say that a couple years ago. The very fabric of reality seems to be coming apart at the seams in a way.

Did the world as we know it end near the year 2012 just like the Mayan calendar predicted? It sounds such a stupid thing to ask out loud considering we're all here. Are we living in a simulation? Is this just collective delusion brought on by the mass adoption of social media? Who knows. None of this explains why we'd be able to remember our old timeline that doesn't exist anymore. There's really no evidence one way or another. Just a fun and crazy thing to consider going forward.

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Oh wow, I love this post, it totally blows my mind. Even though I am not that versed in many aspects of subcultures, such as movie quotes, many of the examples you listed do strike a chord and ring a bell:

Looney Tunes I actually do remember pondering about this as a kid, wondering what the tunes were supposed to be about. Music? Of course! Isn't there also something with Merry Melodies in that cartoon show?

I very specifically remember the Monopoly man with a monocle. In fact, together with the top hat and the tail coat, it is one of the three markings of a capitalist. Every kid knows that.

I never liked Pokemon, but I am certain Pikachu's tail is black tipped.

Kit-Kat had a hyphen, Fruit of the Loom a cornucopia, and Cheez-itz was plural, like 100%.

It was always Mirror, mirror on the wall..., though that may also depend on whatever version it was. Not sure about the famous Disney one.

"We're gonna need a bigger boat." I only know from Johnny Depp's character in Blow.

C3PO's silver leg??? Am I losing my mind??? No, no, no! That can't be! (But I'm not going to check the Star Wars movies now...)

"If you build it they will come." "Life is like a box of chocolates." "Luke, I am your father." Like I said, I am not the greatest movie quoter, these three however I was absolutely certain about.

...of the world! So apparently I have only heard that one version of the song, recorded at Wembley Stadium. Weird...

My theory is that they want to make us question the reliability of our own and others memory so that when we recall some of their crimes from the past others will shrug as a crazy old man. Some 1984ish destruction and refabrication of evidence could be going on. It is possible that all found copies of that KitKat or cereal packaging have been replaced or destroyed.

What my plan for the future would be is stashing samples of product packaging somewhere where a spy can’t find them.

I agree with this. We are being gaslit hard so that we don't feel confident enough to decorate our lamp posts when we've had enough. This is being done on purpose by purging evidence from the internet, and even from our personal computers. While it may seem outrageous to make that latter claim, it is absolutely happening.

I keep offline storage of key documents and stuff now, because it's happened to me several times.

Yes, I've always been annoyed by the Mandela effect. Especially the little mustachioed Monopoly man who doesn't actually wear glasses.

I don't think we're living in a simulation. Anyway, I'm very rational, maybe too much so sometimes. On the other hand, for me, the Mandela effect is easy to explain:

  • Human memory isn't perfect and is prone to various errors. Memories can be influenced by subsequent information, suggestions from other people, or false but convincing associations. Just two days ago, my girlfriend and I were talking about a vacation 2 years ago, and we both had a completely different recollection of a powerful event that had happened to us. And our brains managed to create a "false" memory for one of us with all the other events, the landscapes, the colors, the sensations and so on.
  • Social media and forums enable the rapid and wide dissemination of information, including false memories. When groups of people discuss past events, their memories can influence each other, reinforcing collective false memories.
  • Above all, the Mandela effect can, I believe, be reinforced by so-called "collective memory". That is, when social groups develop shared memories that become part of the group's identity. Social influence can lead individuals to adopt these collective memories, even if they are inaccurate.

I remember being confused about The Flintstones thing as a kid. In my head I always pictured it as it is now, but what confused me was when I actually payed attention and spelled it out. It was The Flinstones and I could not wrap my head around it. It didn't make sense at all.

On another note I used to watch The Lord of the Rings trilogy monthly, I had the entire thing memorized and it was definitely "Run, you fools".

Yeah the Flintstones is just one of those things that's hard to pronounced correctly because of the 2 'T's so people just got lazy with it. Then we remember it being a different way in retrospect. Pretty much all of these have rational explanations and I myself have never had that great of a memory.

The first Mandela Effect that actually freaked me out was Mona Lisa having a veil over her head. How come I never noticed it? Now it's suddenly everywhere and apparently always has been. That's when I started to take this phenomenon seriously.

it's both conspicuous and a little funny that most of the examples i have seen draw on american culture first and foremost. therefore it's much harder for europeans to discern this sort of stuff.

a friend of mine and his girlfriend came to be mandela affected not merely after researching the examples you mentioned... but only when they found that an odd doorframe in an old farm house they had been renting in the past... had changed completely.
knowing about mandela effect made them track down the owner and they asked him. he claimed the door was in original condition and setup, being a little puzzled about the question, while they both distinctly remember it being different. ever since they see the mandela effect as real.

real life examples will definitely trump marketing or pop culture changes.

i have heard people claim they remember a different shoreline of alaska or the position of new zealand being different on a world map. others have filmed local wartime Installations and swear there have never been the flak installations for air defense they can now see in front of them, aged.

i quite happily believe those who are adamant about remembering things differently than today. i on the other hand have no such memory and can therefore not say one way or another.

nobody knows what's up on Earth ahahahaha

2012 was a terrible movie but I might have to watch it again.

Maybe the version I remember seeing was terrible, but in our new timeline it’s a great one. 😅

LoL

Yeah I was thinking about rewatching the old Sleeping Beauty to see if anything has changed.
I watched that one a lot when I was a kid but haven't seen it probably since before I was 10.
Of course it's been so long I probably wouldn't know if anything had changed.

The Mandela effect that really convinces me we've somehow jumped to a different timeline or that we're in a simulation that sometimes glitches, is the final scene in The Spy Who Loved Me (I think) where Jaws meets a pretty girl who opens her mouth to reveal a set of jaws-like gnashers. This doesn't happen in the current version in which she has normal teeth. But where's the comedy in that? The joke is that Jaws has met his match...but he hasn't. It makes zero sense.

On the Jif, Jiffy i remember both.

But, then i remember a lot of things that people today have "forgotten".

It is really important to analyze that the thing was changed through all its iterations.
But not through many of the derived art works.

It is important because you see how the universe stores memories. It wasn't just one failed memory, it was all failed memories throughout. So, that damn silver leg shows up in all the DVDs, and throughout the DVD.

Now here is a weird thing. I have gone and changed the past. And, when, upon coming back, no one remembers the original past, except me. They all remember the new past. To most people, the memory was of no big deal. But it was to me, for rewriting my life.

I remember both on some of those so I must be some kind of multiverse hopping bounty hunter!

Ah yes we call this "going quantum"

Well done.

About Snow white I blame De La Soul and their My Myself and I song :)

It all started there ...

"I very distinctly remember it being spelled BERENSTEIN because I could never spell it."

I do also. I remember wondering how bears could be Jewish, because who's going to circumcise a bear? Not me! But, there's proof it was spelled 'ei', at least some times.

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"He didn't get run over by a tank!?!"

I remember him climbing atop the tank and beating on the hatch until it opened, and there bieng an obviously heartfelt conversation with the soldier that opened it. I may vaguely remember him being led away by soldiers afterwards, but he sure didn't get run over to my recollection. I used to use that as my footer. That guy has always been one of my heroes, sending chills up my spine when I first saw the video. He made me deeply understand the frustration he must have felt to have stood in front of that tank awaiting certain death, and his survival gave me hope I didn't know was possible.

Thanks!

perhaps satoshi had to create a dimensional rift in order to bring us blockchain tech

Oddly enough I was just (re)reading on the Mandela Effect the other day. Didn't run into the newer examples you mention, though. I swear I can hear Gandalf saying "Run, you fools". Checked with my son and he says it was "Fly, you fools". But then he was born many years after the movies came out so he may be of a different timeline...
I also refuse to believe Hannibal Lecter never said "Hello, Clarice"... wtf??

I also refuse to believe Hannibal Lecter never said "Hello, Clarice"... wtf??

Often times what we end up finding out is that scenes like this didn't exist in the actual movie or in the official cut but they did exist during the marketing campaign and in the commercials.

Like yesterday I found out right after writing this that "Mirror mirror on the wall" does exist in a few places, just not the Disney version of Snow White. This includes Grimm fairy tales which I know was read to me as a child.

This explains why we are on the verge of WW3 and nuclear Armageddon and Everyone is a racist. All this time I thought we got past all that shit when I was growing up back in the 80's - 90's LOL
But seriously, Tom Cruse had sunglasses on... I'm sure of it !!! also it was TOONS!

Last time I had the "TOONS" crisis I reminded myself that Tiny Toons could have confused the issue.

It's quite fascinating as a theory, but if it were true it scares me a little.....
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