Azircon You're a Shame! Don't Vote Just Reblog If Hive Is Yours

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You're a shame and a disgrace for #Hive, Azircon!

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At least Lucy wanted some intellectual zipless fuck.

I shared my crypto investments with the Hive communities lately, thinking I can do this even if that permanent blacklist came because I was a whale in POB at some point and this disturbed some people.

Now, this bully that we know, @azircon, thought about getting some more from the DV poll, just after another one did the same yesterday on one of my comments promoting Hive on Twitter.

Some know how frustrated and full of revenge @azircon can be. In fact, he's just another puppet of the whole Hive Watcher's group owning #Hive and playing the markets as they did start from late March 2021.

So, here is how he serves (my ass) the community, while I invest in Hive from my Paypal (Splinterlands), Rising Star, and from other cryptos + invest time to promote Hive since March 2021 with N Mars and others.
Downvoted my achievements. I guess I won't be sharing them anymore.
https://ecency.com/hive-13323/@regenerette/my-latest-investments-splinterlands-rising-star-leo-hot

Downvoting the promotional work I do for Hive: https://ecency.com/hive-167922/@regenerette/re-hiro-hive-2021914t33612527z
https://ecency.com/hive-167922/@regenerette/re-hiro-hive-2021916t6245920z

Gonne write more about this shit I am receiving since March on other networks and show how the games are made around here and who plays what and how.

I think I voted too much for @edicted :)) and the mask got upset. Or...I have recognized a pattern in how the market drops and why on Hive and just reminded that in my post today. We're not all idiots. Use your HP to DV but you cannot shut me up anywhere.

Thanks for a welcome back. Now go ahead with downvoting!

@wil.metcalfe, there's no hope here.

@regenerette: This is me, without the power of Hive token
One of these numbers there. Some of you also know this, https://www.thinkers360.com/top-50-global-thought-leaders-and-influencers-on-edtech-september-2021/

Top 50 Global Thought Leaders and Influencers on EdTech (September 2021)

Whatever your answer is, is how you position yourself in Hive. And I have seen brave people following and trusting my content, I have seen dogs in farming comments and likes and I have seen cowards, as well. Reblog if you think the community needs to know this kind of behavior.

After 6 months Hive Watchers still haven't checked my website or sent an email but keeps my @regeneretta account closed.

Enough...there are so many dirty games of monopoly and control in Hive.

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Hi @azircon! 👋

I don’t know you from Adam or Eve... but I was wondering if we might have some clarification on this downvote as it is highly contentious... 👇
https://ecency.com/hive-13323/@regenerette/my-latest-investments-splinterlands-rising-star-leo-hot

Zeroing out original content isn’t a good look for new people on boarding the blockchain... and right now we could really use the collaborative efforts of everyone to scaleUP and market/brand Hive in the best possible light.

I look forward to hearing back from you,

@wil.metcalfe

If your going to defend people @wil.metcalfe maybe you should defend those that deserve it. Instead of supporting shady folk on the chain. Find some people that are actually good content creators. We dont need these kind of people to be represented as bloggers on the chain in good light.

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Some people just need to be expelled from the community.

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P.S. I should probably mention... I support tons of really great people on this blockchain... I think that you might be jumping to conclusions with those implications... (which I don’t appreciate by the way...)

If your going to criticize me at least give me the decency of being polite and checking the facts about me and my social activities on this blockchain. Or maybe ask me a question... that would give me a chance to give you an answer and save you from jumping to the wrong conclusions about me...

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I do know @azircon and while I don't expect you to take my word for it (as with all things, DYOR), I can tell you @wil.metcalfe that in my experience @azircon is a voice of reason, and tries to find the solution that is not only fair, but is best for the overall well-being of the blockchain. I've even seen him champion people who (IMHO) may not deserve any compassion. And as I explained in my other reply to you, when someone is blacklisted for repeatedly stealing content, that doesn't mean they get a pass if they suddenly post something original.

Personally, I think it's the perfect look for new people coming in - knowing if they steal from other content creators, they won't be able to monetize their blogs is a good thing to know right out of the starting gate.

You think that's contentious - have you seen my account?... nuked on every post for the last 6 months? ..A shit show.

It looks like your new audience (you know the people you write for) has become 1 massive DV account and a whole bunch of little ones UPvoting because they want to see your content... is this what Hive has come too? And if it has... how are any of us ever going to promote it to new people on the social2.0’s ever again? Why would I bother sending people here where they are going to be attacked outright and justified for doing so? And then these same people want us to invest our capital and #BUIDL business’s here? I have got to have confidence before I do continue to do something like that... so again I ask... Is THIS what Hive has come to?

Or can we do better........

Unfortunately (as I've been screaming for 4 years!), DPoS itself allows for 'actions without ethics'.
Down voting (written into the code) is dependent -explicitly- on stake power.
Integrity and ethics can be conveniently abrogated in the name of 'code'.

Add into the mix some very immature players, and here we are...The longer I see it play out - repeatedly from the steem days - I see no fix.

The powers that be (mistakenly) think that everything is fine and no change is required.
All metrics would point to the opposite of that, but hey.

'Skin in the game' and greed, (while having some positive attributes) can also blind people to what is blatantly obvious - to those that take an objective view of things.
When those views are aired, they are pilloried.
Hive has many cult like features.

Will. I don't know what you are smoking but I like to have some of that.

Promote? What promote? We are organically growing right now. We don't need any promotion, especially from people like you. We are creating 10K new account/day! What kind of La La land you are living.

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Now earlier, I politely asked you, don't worry about things that doesn't concern you

and I also said, you are an adult and I can't tell you what to do. But just be ready for consequences.

Lastly, and finally. We don't need you help. We really don't.

If you want to enjoy your time at hive, do so. If you don't want to enjoy your time at hive, don't! Just stop bothering me, Wil. Otherwise, I WILL handle you and that will be the consequence.

That’s a pretty unfriendly response sir. I would have you know... for months now I have been in the top 10 promoting Hive on Twitter (to name only 1 social2.0) for quite some time according to Lunar Crush. So I do my part to spread the word about Hive everywhere I go and I have been doing that ever since I started on Hive nearly 4 years ago. I am disappointed that you would resort to threatening me. Why? For asking questions? Seriously?

Now in response to the signUP numbers you graphed out. It is commonly known that those numbers were generated via Splinterlands signUPs... and they actually had to shut down their market place because those accounts were scamming the entire system to get their hands on free Hive via the gamification loop.

I’m not saying all of those accounts were created in this way... but I am saying that many of them have been brought into existence in this way and for that purpose.

We all know that most of the Splinterlands posts (although I love the game and what they are doing for Hive) are not accounts generating high value posts for Hive. Many of them are generating game outcomes and have little more function than that.

So this is my response and it comes from someone who is a responsible Hive owner and someone who cares about Hive and it’s social state...

I mean no harm to you and in fact would like to see you and your investment in Hive gain traction... if we can all be open and honest about what is happening and where this will take us... I think that it is clear to see that we will all benefit!

Thinking like an owner isn’t a passive thing... it’s about caring. And I care... that is why I continue to use my voice and speak... isn’t that the point in bringing this thing we all call Hive into existence?

To explore digital freedom and innovate further how social3.0 can impact the world for better?

I think so and so it is with this that I ask you to reconsider your stance... and please leave off with the threats. This does nothing to move your social capital and standing within the wider Hive community forward.

Everything WE ALL DO is public and here for all to see and we have a whole community of people who came to this place to think for themselves and to build their own dreams of a decentralized future.

This is our home... all of our home and so how we treat each other... it matters.

@wil.metcalfe

This is not a threat.

I am respectfully asking you to stop bothering me. I can ask that to anyone online. I DO NOT want to interact with you. This is my choice.

OKAY?

Certainly. And I respect the fact that your not interested in conversing with me further.

I think that you know my position and I think that I know yours...

I gave you my respect in attempting to convey my thoughts to you directly...

...and I’ll, with the hopes that something I said reaches you positively, leave off further discussions with you upon your request.

I wish you all the best and all the success that you deserve.

Sincerely,

@wil.metcalfe

Hi to you,

I followed the comments.

Would you say that the experience here with actors who see downvotes as the means of choice teaches you that there are people who see rebuke or even punishment as totally legitimate means?

If you assume that you cannot overcome this conviction, that you cannot bring the other person who uses these means down to your level, what is the insight or consequence for you?

From my point of view, those who use DV-power would only take you seriously if you did not discuss with them but downvote them in turn. If you are weaker than them, they will not take you seriously. They will only take it seriously if they have to deal with a reaction similar to their own.

Either someone would have to find someone who downvotes with the same voting strength or a group of people who do this with stoic regularity and without much explanation. The rule of the game is quite clear: one only listens to the stronger and only bows to those who are clearly the stronger. Arguments are of little interest, it is really a matter of learning that one is superior or inferior (not my view).

Transferred to a street fight, such people who take a good beating would accept the thug and bow down. Where the thug is defeated, the rule of "the strongest wins" also applies here.

Your call for intellectual exchange ist not served. It is probably not even read. The expressions of respect in this direction could be seen as weakness, an encouragement. In my view, you have not only achieved nothing, but you have increased the strength of the person who sees you as an opponent. Either as an opponent who has already been defeated or one who is yet to be defeated. (No offense, I could be wrong with the analyses.)

Since all this can probably be perceived as a game at the same time, people laugh at each other when they are not angry with each other. The player mentality can be seen here on Hive and many online platforms, I think.

My question to you would be: If you were even in your Voting-power would you take up the fight? Are you "in" for those rules?

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Wil… why don’t you relax and enjoy your hive journey. Why meddle with complicated things that doesn’t concern you. Especially things like “new users” :)

Don’t worry about these things okay? Cheers! :)

I got all my posts for a whole week downvoted because I said "okay karen" to this psychic leech


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@wil.metcalfe

Here is a link where you can be a part of the consensus: https://discord.gg/tVjRSwTG9v

Unless you join in the conversations you won't be privy to what is up.
You can lurk, if you like, but you are trying to get us to plow ground that has been plowed enough.
Once Az is on it, it's pretty much final.

well i guess its final I am leaving hive then, he downvoted all my posts for replying to a comment he tagged me in...

I hate to hear that.
Seems kinda sudden.

This is exactly the vibes that spread around the blockchain when a zero out is felt. It communicates at an EXTREAMLY intense level because it short circuits the authors audience making the content creator fully aware that their account is not their own anymore. This is another form of centralization and is a dangerous signal to the entire crypto market.

People have an eye on Hive and are waiting to see what we innovate. If the only news coming out of Hive is a zero out culture, anger, and hostility... that's not going to bode well for our cherished brand.

The worst part is, @azricon tagged me in the post that he was triggered by the response to, then proceeded to go on an irrational downvoting spree on every post of mine this week.

That's pretty heavy handed... and just for having a different opinion and also saying 1 word/name that wasn't liked? Yikes man... 😳

@wil.metcalfe, he downvoted every single active post of mine yesterday simply for commenting on a post of someone (friend of mine) who was announcing their departure from the blockchain for being targeted simply for talking to someone on this psycho's hit list. All of my posts are original work, the ones that got hit had actually taken me very many hours to put together - like a week's part time work at least. None of them could possibly be deemed spam, all of them are comprehensive original, well sourced independent journalistic pieces (and a video I put together). So anyone saying azircon only votes spam or spammers is fooling themselves.

I never mentioned or talked to this azircon dude before, and now seem to have been targeted simply for conversing with someone targeted for conversing with @lucylin. It's absolutely out of control insanity. This is psychotic behavior. I've never interacted with this guy, I don't know who he is, he never 'warned' or 'threatened' me for my blockchain 'crime' of speaking to the 'wrong' people before going on a downvote rampage out of the blue. One post fully zeroed out. If this continues, I will likely not be on here long either, this is just not worth the waste of time and effort and stolen follower vote power; and so many of my friends are leaving anyway, because this type of abuse has been going on, though not to this extreme, for many months now, and there are few bullies who make it their job to 'punish' content they don't like. We (who post independent politically incorrect views and happen to be on their radar) are very much used to it. But to 'punish' simply for conversing with someone, and sharing sympathy for their being targeted, is absolutely over the top, and wiping out rewards from all active posts at that, not just one! It's not fair to our followings to have their upvotes nullified by this oppressive tyranny, and it is clear this blockchain is not a welcome chamber for free speech.

I would debate people over differences of opinion, I welcome it, and care less about what all they might call me, but that rarely happens with these types, few are the down-voters willing to engage in conversation or debate with those they downvote, or even leave comments telling you why they downvoted you. But how can you respond to faceless bullying that seemingly has no rhyme, reason, or purpose? Other than to satisfy what clearly appears to be vengeful, vindictive, childish, cowardly sense of ownership over this blockchain that really should be shared by us all, not controlled by a few control freaks. The powers that be have done nothing to reign in such insane abuse of power, and I cannot in such a state as this recommend people join this broken blockchain. I will stay as long as I can bear it, but this is really over the top insanity, and sad the powers that be let it fly.

There is other blockchains with social utilities that are not becoming an echo chamber for a status quo, I will be investing into them.

If abuse is allowed to zero out rewards for the redfish, same thing.
I'll take the non-abuse solution.

The original white paper describes what is happening here, in truth the crab bucket is failing the trending page.
No post should go over 100htu, imo.
Not without some flags on it, anyway.

If the account was putting out daily original content we wouldn't be having this conversation.
The hive will never be for everybody.

I'm really sorry to hear this Phil. I know that you have been around for quite some time...

What happened to cause this?!

https://peakd.com/hive-150329/@phusionphil/re-lucylin-2021916t18657541z

Asparagus is a code word we use for autism, seeing as we have a social disability, this kind of humor is very common amongst autistic people.

If he thought that was spam, that's fair... But my posts this week were fairly in depth and had a lot of my own opinion.

Seriously... Full downvotes for a differing opinion?

Does anyone see and care about this?

It's getting a little messed up when this level of short term thinking is at play.

It's only detrimental to everyone on this blockchain.

Just because you have a nuke doesn't mean that you should go ahead and use it.

This is what I have been talking about... for months now!

Having a DV system like this hands every man woman and child a red button... that is connected to an explosive device (metaphorically speaking) called Down Vote Power.

Now normally one would reserve this level of "protection" for self defense or bluffing... but you really know that the social environment has degraded when the ones sitting on the most TNT are busy pushing their button all over the place... and thinking it's not going to lay waste to the social environment we are all striving to improve and bring new people to.

I mean seriously...?

Do we want new people to walk into a garden of eden... or do we want them to walk into the waste lands of the 3rd world war?

This is just getting ridiculous and there isn't exactly a fallout shelter now is there...

I was talking very highly of this place and attracted a indie game developer who is now waiting to see what happens to my account as a case study before he launches his game.

Stuff like this could easily happen to a new game that doesn't have many supporters if it's targeted by a whale.

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Once Az is on it, it's pretty much final.

It's only final if larger accounts tell him otherwise (being of the authoritarian mindset, he will cower to larger stakeholders wishes...it's what they do).

That , of course, is entirely dependent on how closely they work together or even part of of the same group, in the first place...

Cartel-esque operations are frowned upon, on every continent.

Cartel definition:
A cartel occurs when two or more firms (accounts) enter into agreements to restrict the supply or fix the price of a good in a particular industry.(downvoting is one form of this - there are also others at work in this ecosytem).
A cartel is a type of collusion.
Cartels are considered to be against the public interest.

i recall a comment on one of your posts saying it was plagarised. Did you address that?

In March. Never solved. Everything is already there. Different story here. @regenerette #6111 discord

Well, it's not necessarily a different story if you got out on a blacklist or a downvote trail, and didn't appeal succesfully in Discord, then you would likely still be on those lists/trails.

i don't use Discord as they are part of the #massmurdermachine imo. so not looking into it, just offering suggestion

I just decided ill be leaving hive due to this psychic leech.

He downvoted all my posts for a week because i said "okay karen"


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