A proof of concept from many moons ago resurfacing as a comment that I was going to reply to and thought may better serve as a post.
This in reply to @kenny-crane reply
So without any thought, I am going to write the first thing that comes into my mind about a Hive Poker game without smart contracts.
Sounds like a plan.
Make a web page that lets up to 6 people play a hand of poker, maybe Texas Hold 'Em. There is a lobby and if there are more than 6 people in it, then there could be several 6 player hands happening at the same time.
Texas Hold 'Em would most likely be the game of choice. Would suggest maximum ten player table. Players may sit in and play with as few as two players, which would effectively be heads up. Players could be sitting at the table, taking up a seat, but be sitting out. Sitting out would need to be an option so players may take a break and keep their seat. This is standard. Many little nuances to take into account and code in. Imagine there may be some code to use as a template for (poker) game flow.
The hand is about to start. Players send X amount of HBD ante to the @poker-dealer account (which doesn't exist but I should make it real fast!). Everyone pays the same X amount, and there can be different leagues or something where X varies. Maybe some have X of 0.001 and others where X is 1 or whatever.
"Players send X amount of HBD ante to the @poker-dealer account"
Players would send a (table) game buy in. Maybe taking $0.05 / $0.10 blind game as an example with a (maximum) $10.00 buying (100 Big Blinds). Could have a minimum buying of maybe as little as 40 Big Blinds, $4.00. Minimum bet would be $0.10+ by the $0.01. Raises would have to be coded in and what not in the poker game logic. May find a good example another time.
Random cards are dealt according to the standard game rules, People bet according to standard rules, maybe with a bet cap based on an ante multiplier. At the end, someone wins and @poker-dealer sends them their winnings, maybe minus a small fee or percentage for further dev work and/or a game token.
Matter of how random should be handled. Game likely to be No Limit in this case limited by game rules and player stack sizes. The game would keep track of player balances during the hand. Winnings would not be sent until player(s) cash out their winnings and choose to be done playing and leave their seat. Players' balance ("chips") should remain in play during the game and subsequent games.
Or maybe players could bet up to the stack size of $10.00. Provided players have X in their account and do not send it elsewhere during the game. This would require checks. Players should state how much they want to buying for and noted in this case and method of handling bets.
I'll think about it more, but seems like this might work.
Something could work. There have been some poker leagues on Hive so am sure there is some level of interest. Unsure if it may be fully worth exploring with such challenges.
Could possibly have a token for rewards for playing and dev work, managing, etc. Feels very in the form of a rake. This is about 4 to 5% up to a certain cap.
A token for take back rewards pooled with part of the rake may be found rewarding for players.
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Instead of taking a rake, which makes it an online casino, you could use a staked token for access, like XBOT and maybe escape some legal scrutiny
Also make Hive and HBD rooms
I'd be into this btw
Yeah in many places this would be online gambling so caution would be required unless got good legal advice :o
So true, thanks!
Thanks for adding to this convo, you make some good points here!
Thank you for your reply.
Taking rake does not make it a casino. Access is a good ideas. Being on a blockchain is not of legalese... Some kind of precautionary measures may be put in place.
I’d play if you create it
Thanks for showing interest! I'm surprised there isn't something like this already. It doesn't seem that had to create. I actually did something like this back in my college days. I think I can do it again, and might be fun to try!
There was poker before… I seem to remember it worked best with some set days and times.
Yes there was SPL. We'll have to figure when are good time(s) for interested players to play together. Thank you for your interest.
Thanks for your detailed response to my very preliminary thoughts on a poker game where players play using HBD instead of dollars. If I made this, I'd start it out as a mini-game inside one of the other games I am working on. That would use some existing infrastructure and existing player base. There is even an in-game token called VOLTs which is swappable for HBDs.
Anyway, much to think about, but hoping others may see this and freely comment on what they would like to see in such a poker game.
One point to consider - Hive accounts are, or can be, anonymous. I think there would be a problem if 2 or more of the players at a table are the same human.
Thanks again!
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Welcome. Thank you too.
Yes, this is a concern and challenge. This has been dealt with with IP checks, bot checks, and collusion checks types of things. Also a reason why there is not a poker game like this one Hive and other blockchains as one of many challenges. Something to think about.
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