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RE: Weekend-engagement topic week 24: Passions [Get paid for yours]

I don't trust the vaccines, either. I'll be more than happy to let 100 million or so try it out before I do. I think I will get a vaccine eventually...

I've had a look at the Pfizer methodology. It's fucking rushed, but I think they followed all the steps. I'm a little concerned that some steps were done concurrently but...

I suspect vaccines will be required for travel at some point. Then I'll pick one...

I expect 2021 to be at least as bad as 2020. The first half (here in the US) will be riddled with dead people. If we don't slow this spike yesterday we will end up with 400,000 cases per day by Jan. 1. The vaccines won't be generally available here until at least April and that's a LOT of dead folks in between.

Couple that with the financial aspects and I expect that we might look back on 2020 fondly at some point. Zombies might be a nice diversion.

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Yes Tom, all you say and more I fear, although hopefully we're both monumentally wrong and 2021 is a glorious year. I'm not going to hold my breath though.

I also think the vaccine is being rushed and it's not something one wants to rush I guess...I seriously doubt we'll know the full story until they start injecting people with a substance that does who know what...And even then we may never know. I don't even get the flu shot so I'll not be standing in line.

Exactly. I've never had a flu shot.

I'm going to wait as long as I can, but I really suspect it will be tied to travel. I'm sure a vax will be a requirement to enter Canada or to exit Mexico at the very least. Both of which I plan on doing :)

I also suspect that certain states will require it. Arizona probably won't but California and Washington will. Both regular destinations with me. The idea of running the speed limit because I haven't been vaccinated is pretty foreign to me. I can, but...

Yes, I tend to agree and think that entry requirements to countries will lift to include a vaccination certificate or some such. Maybe they could make us wear an identifying marker on our clothing. A star on our left chest perhaps to mark us. It's been done before.

Crazy world we're living in Tom. Crazy.

I'm sure, absolutely positive that RFID chip implantation will be an option because it will make it so much easier to go through the airports and customs and such... If that's the choice I'm a non player. Period.

You know that Sam has an RFID chip? When he's out wandering (it's happened twice) the Animal Control guy scans him and calls me up so he doesn't even have to go to doggy jail.

Yep, I'd say you're right...And won't the government's love it. I'm against it of course,but fornpwtsnjts a good idea. Cleo has one same as Sam. The old G-dog won't be getting one though.

It won't happen with me. I'll be an even worse hermit than I am now. I'll never go to Canada or Mexico if that's a requirement.

They just announced that people will need to check in on a phone app (or other method if they have no phone) to supermarkets here, and other places...To aid contact tracing.

Sounds like Nazi Germany 1938...

"WHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS?!"

This is the new normal and it's unlikely to roll back in my lifetime.

I'll not be shopping at that supermarket, but when they all do it? Starve, or conform I guess.