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RE: Warning, please don't encourage the self-voting/vote-selling of the @ph-fund initiative

in Project HOPE5 years ago

I'm already on the first point not interested in reading the rest, how have you never heard of disagreement of rewards and the addition of the 25% "free" downvote mana added into the blockchain on the EIP hardfork? There's way more reasons to downvote something than just disagreeing with what you're saying or plagiarism, the former is actually not even a good reason for it.

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Thanks for updating that to me.
But, are you thinking of downvoting as per how the community is run or how I am using that community.

I am setting this beneficiary for a completely different reason for what you have said this beneficiary might be getting used for.

Consider it as a new user, trying to put forwarding his points.

lol mate, what other reason could you be giving them 50% of your potential post rewards for?

If you go with the ideology that ..... stealing a penny or stealing a car both is robbery...

Than the same holds true for.... setting 1% rewards for building a community or 50%.

I completely don't understand how people judge what is small or big.
Small or big never has a benchmark. It is only point of reference.

What other reason, let me share mine:
Awareness about the content ( more rewards, more reach )

Moreover, if I find something fishy, I would leave. Easy as it is.

Moreover, how can I believe that people are not doing the same ( which you are saying) by sending the amount from back channel ( directly from wallet )
Ex. Please don't set me as beneficiary but I will upvote your content and kindly share weekly fixed return back to me through wallet.

I just want to understand how this all is working.

Maybe just a language barrier of not getting it but setting the account as a beneficiary is circumventing the self voting routine and the authors that go along with it are tools for the scheme. If an author sets their post beneficiary to 100% to ph fund, then that post is 100% an extension of ph fund now and any votes go to the ph fund's wallet. Setting it at 50% just means it's 50% an extension of their wallet and a front excuse to to self vote.

I got your point and thanks for making me understand this. With due respect, I differ here, need a bit more clarification about "any votes"

"....and any votes go to the ph fund's wallet."

Now, talking about this "any vote", there is no "any vote" here, hardly receive "any vote" from outside the PH community, all the votes which I am receiving is from the PH community or the PH curation trail.

Again how we see the thing matters. I see by setting beneficiary I am just giving back to the community for at least bringing me the audience who "consumes" my content, curators.

Though I strongly believe this curation trail is of any worth. Nor are any bots. Hive is for real people not for curation trails and bots.

I really don't know if out of all the votes which I receive, how many have read my posts. There are very very less people who read my content out the "any votes" I am receiving.

Also, in general, from what I have seen, as per my experience, people vote and support their own communities and don't waste their votes on any other good post from others community.

Definition of the self vote can have different meanings. I have a different meaning. And it is up to me to see which definition I choose.

And these are my emotions and not at all about supporting or opposing anyone's claim here.

Definition of the self vote can have different meanings. I have a different meaning. And it is up to me to see which definition I choose.

This is what I like about the freedom to choose meanings, they become handy when they are convenient. PH Fund would hardly be used to vote for posts that don't set their beneficiary to 50% even if anyone isn't coerce to do it, people are conditioned to think that setting 50% will raise their chances of getting the vote.

As an author, your content might have been given the visibility and a few eyes but that's just becoming a means to an end which is having their coffers filled. Your post became a tool to be exploited. It's no different than bribing each other to support one another. It's disingenuous because anyone who isn't submitting to the beneficiary game would be better off somewhere else playing the vote lottery. The 50% beneficiary is the raffle ticket.

See, I believe your intention behind creating awareness about this might be right but the same goes with me, my intentions behind supporting it is right.
I would have not gotten into this discussion, if I didn't believe what I am doing is right.

I really cannot go about getting concerned who is getting what benefit.

I can only be concerned about, am I doing the right thing? Which I think, I am.