RE: DEISM is functionally identical to ATHEISM

[oldoneeye]

"humans don't have any inalienable rights"(?)

Nope. I can't remember if you ever answered me when we went over this before.
Who GRANTS 'humans' "RIGHTS"? Only a master. RIGHTS can be TAKEN. There is no 'inalienable right' when such right is 'granted' by 'something'.

I feel we have only one "Inalienable" Right. That is we have the right to ATTEMPT to SURVIVE and PROCREATE. This is the one true purpose that I can't seem to question. Survive and procreate. If you think of that as live and let die, so be it. But to me it is 'live and let survive and procreate'.

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[logiczombie]

Human rights are granted by consensus (NOT gods or kings).

(IFF) you believe that humans should be treated with some minimum of consideration, regardless of their identity or previous actions (THEN) you and I agree.

(IFF) you believe that humans should all fend for themselves (AND) "FUCK YOU I GOT MINE" (THEN) you and I disagree.

In 4 minutes,

Your predatory moral philosophy is rendering you untrustworthy.

According to you, anyone can justify being untrustworthy as long as they classify "others" as part of "an enemy group".

Once you do that, it's a simple matter of capriciously moving individuals in and out of "enemy group" as you see fit, which is the very definition of "untrustworthy".

[oldoneeye]

Human rights are granted by consensus (NOT gods or kings).

THEN 'Consensus' = -The Grantor of said 'Rights'-, and 'Consensus' can REVOKE said 'Rights', thus != 'Inalienable'.

(IFF) you believe that humans should be treated with some minimum of consideration, regardless of their identity or previous actions (THEN) you and I agree.

I do agree. I did not say you must ONLY 'survive and procreate'. That is merely the 'inalienable' part. It is up to us to strive to 'THRIVE and procreate', which leads to a natural 'evolution' if you will, or even a 'self-learning/improving-AI'.

(IFF) you believe that humans should all fend for themselves (AND) "FUCK YOU I GOT MINE" (THEN) you and I disagree.

LOL no I don't. This is not at all in accordance with cosmic/universal/God's Law.
By the way:

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Once you do that, it's a simple matter of capriciously moving individuals in and out of "enemy group" as you see fit, which is the very definition of "untrustworthy".

Which is why that is not an acceptable thing to do in accordance with universal law, or 'the way it Is'.