You and I are just as powerless, will that makes us poor powerless sympathy leeches should such a thing occur here. You can't take everything you see with a one hundred percent grain of salt there's so many different forces at work, they've been a work for a long time destabilizing the whole situation into a blow up. I suppose you never once thought to ask yourself why a civilian woman would be in the basement to be killed by the azov if that was their base. Wouldn't be more like a azov woman fighter who got killed when they bombed the place and maybe the DPR dudes found her and wrote that stuff on her. That makes a whole hell lot more sense than the story he gave. He sort of gives himself away when he says they don't always got time to take care of their own....but he has time to take this guy down there and show him around?
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No, the reporter asked him what side he was registered with and he said the DPR. So if the woman was a civilian that meant they left her there like that and he said they don't always have time to take care of their own.
It's probable but more so unlikely. They bury the dead usually as quickly as possible to stop any spread of potential disease, and out of respect. I've seen video's of mass graves that sadly included young children being thrown into them. My observation is she had been dead for quite some time before they came upon her in that basement because it appeared she had been stabbed in the stomach near where they drew the sign on her. That looked to be an inset puncture. If that had been her cause of death there'd been more pooling, splattering of blood on and around the body, there wasn't, it appears she was stabbed after death and the blood inside the body had already coagulated. As gross as it sounds it may have been possible they were using the coagulated dried up blood from within inside her to draw the design on her body, that's some pretty demented hateful shit right there.
See another comment I just made to you. From what I can see of the video it appears she may have been stabbed after death as the blood appeared to have already coagulated.
Dude I was merely pointing out what I thought wasn't adding up in the video. Even the guy who the reporter was asking questions to didn't seem like he was being on the level. I've read and seen horrible stuff from different sides, one reason I watched it so closely to begin with. Usually these stories break than a couple days later the accused group comes out and disputes what happened. That's why it's good to go over the conversation so to make sure it's fully understood what's being said, watch people's body language and facial expressions. I went over that video pretty thoroughly and I am sticking with my assessment the woman was already dead when they came upon her, I am sticking with it appears there was a after death wound and highly likely they used the coagulated blood to make the insignia. You are entitled to your opinion on it, I just don't happen to agree with that opinion at the moment, mostly due to the body language and facial expressions of the guy being interviewed while observing the woman's body and insignia closely.
I don't think there was a rape involved. I think she was killed during the bombing, they didn't have time to bury her or the means to take her with them so they left her. I think she was dead for long enough for the blood to coagulate, the other side came upon her, lifted her clothing to expose her belly, stabbed her and used the blood to make the insignia. Go back and and look at the video again, look at the wound mark close to the insignia, it protrudes inwards, doesn't appear to be fresh blood but where the skin goes down in the wound it appears dried and dark.
Go back and listen carefully. He tells the reporter there was a dead woman down there. I thought she had possibly been raped but she wasn't left exposed in such a manner. Her leg positioning didn't suggest she had been raped either. There also wasn't any other apparent ripping of the clothing.
It's apparent it was a after death wound, there's no blood seen that ran from the wound down her belly or side, no blood splatter, no blood on the floor, no blood pooling anywhere.
The fact the wound is wider than just a straight in stab wound is why I think they had to keep inserting the knife to keep getting the blood on it because the blood was coagulated. Yes, the blood was already dried, but not like dried, dried as we would think of it, that's why they had to keep reinserting.
It appears pressure was asserted to one side of the wound. Probably caused by the pressure to try and get more blood on the knife. It's disturbing to say the least. Horrific really. Hateful, vile. Whoever did it doesn't deserve to roam the earth.
We are discussing, observing, not taking sides. No one is excusing anyone's behavior, that's part of my people mistakenly think you are when one person's opinion is different than another's. It doesn't make one right or wrong over the other.
You know I can't count the times I've heard people say "well I know it to be likely because it's been reported before as them doing these things".....my response is "yea, from all sides".
All sides have been reported as being involved in war crimes. There's no stone left unturned in that regard. You could have a hundred men standing around a woman like that but few if any would do such an atrocious thing. There's only two types of individuals who'd do such a thing, one driven crazy by the lose of a loved one in the violence of war or someone who should have never been allowed to walk the face of the earth to begin with. There's been reports from all sides of disbanding people from these various groups for being to far over the fringe, for the vast majority of people there really is a limit. It's one thing to be forced to defend yourself it's a whole other to do that which was done to this woman.
As a matter of fact it was reported they were incorporated into a policing position. That would be akin to letting the KKK police the subway system of New York.
No there's actually one group in the bunch called the C14, they are reportedly pretty bad, they are also speculated to be operatives of the CIA.
I didn't watch the video but that's what I am trying to tell you, it's all sorts of propaganda, twist and turns, and things aren't adding up. Just like now they are suppose to be in peace talks but everyone seems to be rearming themselves and Russia calling middle east troops back home. At this point how can any one individual really know what the real truth is in this situation because you have so many different operatives working different agenda's. Like I said, if the last eight years where happening to you or I we'd get up and move on....but you also, if you have an inclination such as mine, to ask yourself was the last eight years a set up also by the globalist. Planning in the processes that have taken place over the last two decades concerning the environment we've found ourselves in with this virus. I think this war serves also as a turning point for the virus situation, away from, even if momentarily because you can't trust these fools, trying forced or mandated vaccination to all of a sudden just recommending the most vulnerable and elderly get them. I've been talking about it for the last month, calling it mainstreaming, like an annual flu shot to the most vulnerable among us. That's exactly what they did yesterday, they came out and announced they've changed their direction. They will no longer recommend boosters for those under fifty but recommend they keep giving them to the vulnerable and elderly. They will continue to promote people get boosters but their main focus will be on the most vulnerable and elderly. Russia sat there for a year for a reason, they just didn't know when people would start to figure out the harms being done to the point they could no longer deny it. With this war and all the worry about it expanding people's attention got refocused on that and away from the dangers of the vaccines. Otherwise the headlines would be blaring with the evidence. I already knew this was where they were planning on going with this because Trump invested himself heavily in Sanofi's new combination/flu covid shot coming out this fall. You can call this a transition period....but ultimately it will still be a deadly one for the vulnerable and elderly if allowed to keep happening. The objective is two fold here, elimination of the elderly populace before 2030 to avoid an world wide economic devastation and to transition the voter range from conservative based die hard elderly voters to younger indoctorinated liberal millennials.
I've factored that in. Time is still out on this one. You have to remember that Russia also has their own vaccine, how that plays into their economy is anyone's guess. Not quite something I've looked at. I haven't looked at what percentage of the elderly population has vs the younger population and what future potential that holds economically for them. Though this early into the process it'd have to be depopulation agenda vs a retiree and not enough young workers problem if this is all connected with the globalist agenda, why would you send thousands of young men to die if your populace was in decline and there wasn't enough young workers to support retirees. Like I said early to you, the role, or which side of the fence Russia is playing hasn't entered the game yet, it's to early to call. You always have to keep a clear head when trying to determine something based just on a claim, actions not claims will be the ultimate final denominator, claims, in the interim, are subject to the scrutiny of keeping people in the mass formation(s).
I don't know who everyone is but they have that right. There are many people who think Russia is the bad guy while many others think Russia's doing the world a favor warring against the globalist agenda, you have the Azvo fighters fighting for that which they claim is theirs, you have Russia fighting against them saying no it's not, you have Russian interest in staying the status quo, you have globalist interest fighting against the establish quo, you have Jewish leader and his friend aligning themselves with hard right fighters claiming how could we ever be supporting nazi's, you have an old pro Russian ex president in the mix, dressed in Ukraine uniform after having been charged with treason running around, you have cia operatives in the mix and at least half a dozen other groups.....and out of all this mixed mag of garbage you are expecting people to choose whose more right than the other. I don't think so, blame those in power.
No it's mainly been the Azov until Zalensky came along and incorporated them into the military.
Actually many people get that confused.
Agreed, talking about the conflict isn't agreeing with the conflict.