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RE: An Olive Branch from Jaguar.Force. Let's Talk. Lets Walk Together.

in #hive4 years ago

Speaking for OCA, in general I don't think there's much misalignment when it comes to what I don't think should be supported.

I do think adjustments need to be made primarily in two areas.

  • When someone breaks a rule, what to do and how to handle it.
  • Dealing with the edge cases and grey areas.

When it comes to people breaking rules, there's really no need to insult them or call them names or really be antagonistic in any way. We have tools to deal with these things that I think are pretty effective.

If someone breaks a rule because of negligence, we should inform them of the rule they broke and mute the post. Flags are optional depending on the severity or maliciousness of what they've done, but in the end what people choose to flag is their own business so this is just my opinion. If someone repeatedly breaks the rules of a Community, they can be muted in that Community. If they are a severe, malicious abuser, they can be added to a blacklist as well.

I think this should be the typical order of doing things.

Of course some things are so obviously bad they can be instantly blacklisted like ID theft, but copying another artists work isn't at this level and in general if credited would usually not be frowned upon in the art world.

While it's not something I'd support, I think categorizing everyone that copys someone else's artwork a scammer or plagiarist is a step too far and in the big picture, harmful for the user experience because this is how a lot of amateur artists start out and develop.

In OCA, it's not allowed, but in general on Hive I think we need some other way to address this rather that attacking people and calling them scammers/plagiarists. I'm interested to see what other people think about this.

When it comes to edge cases and grey areas, I think we should lean on the side of tolerance and give people room to adapt. Posting someone else's art as your own or stealing someone's identity can't be a simple mistake or done out of thoughtlessness, but beyond that, I think we should give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they're only here to do harm.

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As an artist if you make a study of another artist’s work, even a Photograph you must credit the original artist. If you present your version or study as your own work (without the original Source/ reference) you are a thief and a criminal.

I disagree, so does the law by the way, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Really ? How would you like it if I took one of your paintings, or photographs, traced it, copied it, made an almost identical copy and posted it as my own work ? Without mentioning you as a source or reference and made millions from that work ? How would you feel ?

Nobody is making a million dollars here. People are lucky if they make $20.

If Hive ever goes Up to $10 or more .. it would be quite a bit of $$.... like buying or selling something for 10,000 Bitcoin in 2010.

I have had my photography and paintings stolen, copied, posted on another blockchain where those thieves made $$$ from my works .

Where?

Probably Weku, lol. Where you can buy a "whale" account for like $8.

Yeah.... the Whales on Weku were stealing photos from Steemit.... posting it as their own work on Weku, upvoting with hundreds of weku and then quickly selling their Weku for Steem when Steem around $1

Um, weku didn't exist when steem was at $6 and was never worth much

Lol Weku... $8? that's too expensive, I had the noob idea to put effort on Weku and I got $3.5 for around...150K wekus. Nobody got rich there, only the owners that got around $50K doing direct purchases to naive users... that place is a nest of scammers, most of them rejects from Steemit after the HF20.

By the way, Weku was open to the public in August 2018, Steem value was already very low... not $6.

Steem was around 80 cents at the time

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