Interesting how your comment illustrates the risk I am talking about in the response to @livinguktaiwan ... "you probably don't want to be on next week's list" could be read as a threat ...
I think people like @justyy, @steemhunt and @steemchiller have done a lot for steem and deserve to be approved witnesses for that chain. Doing that, I honor what they contributed to steem. The whole issue with Justin Sun and the chain split is quite complex in my opinion, I'd rather not judge the above three ONLY by their way of reacting to that. Voting for witness is binary. Removing my vote because I disapprove of them staying with Sun would also mean that all they did for steem BEFORE suddenly is worth zero, it doesn't matter anymore ... I am reluctant to do that
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I might conditionally agree with you without all of the circumstances of reality in the last couple months. However all three of those accounts are running software that arbitrarily denies legitimate stakeholders the right to use their accounts, while in consensus from a unilateral vote from Sun Yuchen. Furthermore Steemhunt/@tabris denied access to @themarkymark to his legitimately owned HUNT tokens. These are not ethical moves, and I disagree that they deserve any witness vote on Steem.
Though I appreciate his support of Hive, I don't support or agree with @abitcoinskeptic's threat of "next week's list" or anything like that.
I haven't followed the saga very closely but after Ned sold Steemit and its tokens to Sun, my understanding is that the aggression was started by the hive witnesses through the introduction of a fork which denied Justin Sun access to the "ninja stake".
I think the fair play of that initial move is debatable to say the least ... After it happened, things escalated (sock puppets and retaliation). But forking out the ninja mined stake (for which Sun had presumably paid money) was the first "hostility "
It's not a threat, its a suggestion. You are either intentionally supporting 22.8888 or you are not. The blockchain hides no secrets.
Good people can and do support bad things. You are an individual and should behave accordingly.
Basically you are saying you cannot change your mind. That's a stubborn ethics code.
I'm approving of most of what Steemchiller did for steem. I would prefer he doesn't run 0.22.8888, but to do so is his choice, not mine. Even though I disapprove of that particular thing, I reckon it doesn't negate all the other good things he did.
I approve a lot of what he did, too. I supported him up until he moved to 22.8888
How many more accounts should be stolen from Steem updates he supports before you would stop supporting him?
There are lines we don't cross and he gleefully crossed one. He gets paid to do it and he knows exactly what he did which makes his actions shameful and difficult to forgive.
For Justin Sun to appoint someone as a witness, they needed to take a pledge that they wouldn't freeze the funds of a person's account, and that they would protect private property rights.
Each and every one of the witnesses running 22.8888 (many of them are still sock puppet that have been translated to localize to make it appear as if they come from other countries) have broken their pledge. That was a pledge made not just with Justin Sun, but to the entire world, including potential steem investors. It also caught Justin Sun in a act of fraud when he declared that steem funds are "super safu, when 22.8888 had lead to darthknight being locked to powering down his steem to a phishing account that he can't stop.
Coders like to create, it is in their blood. But coders, despite being high IQ, have all sorts of political idealogies or other ideals that are held rigidly and generally they are nurtured into. Most Political ideology and general ideals are, unlike coding, not based upon reality and reason. The political ideologies that are based upon science and reason are being obfuscated in this world as the socialism spectrum, despite all its fallacies, is promoted. Justty and some others are nothing more, in the end, than petty agents of the CCP who took their 30 pieces of silver.
Many very brilliant people who created great products from scratch, often end up voted out of the companies they founded because they are not good businessmen. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that the witnesses supporting 22.8888 only have their own power and a destructive greed in mind, in fact they don't even care about the product as it falls apart under their watch despite their mantras of trying to make steem great again. What was great about steem has left, and all they have left is rot and decay. Greed can be constructive, and a constructive greed is good for business and all investors. But if you let a product operate purely on fraudulent statements, stealing funds (even through dilution) from shareholders, censoring your users, not only is the product going to lose customers, deter potential customers, and not only are you going to lose stakeholders and value, but it is inviting the strong arm of the law to crack down on all parties involved. The Long arm of US law is notoriously long. It is long overdue for the USDOJ to arrest and prosecute Justin Sun.