Fuck !!!! hold on i just need to reattach my jaw to the rest of my face.
How many accounts ?
I just had a look at theycallme dans account because of something else i saw and its empty! nothing
Triple A claims the accounts up for seizure are those belonging to people who were, “Publicly attacking users, collecting personal information, threatening murder.” They also accuse them of spreading fake news, and damaging network stability.
It's a tale as old as time, "bad people" don't deserve basic human rights, including their right to hold private property.
And, the accused are presumed GUILTY until "proven" innocent, because "bad people" don't deserve anything resembling a "fair trial" or a "transparent process".
It is a shame that people persist in being dishonest.
I can read only read this far
steem is a blockchain, while Steemit is a blogging application that runs on top. Sun bought the application but also used a large supply of Steem coins and the power of other exchanges to take over the blockchain platform too. When this happened, Steem’s diehard community built their own blockchain to escape to, called Hive.
As soon as I read distortions like that I am done reading any more.
Following our hearts and minds is the best any of us can do.
I disagree with the presented official narrative and time line. They completely ignore the unprovoked hostile actions taken directly against Steemit.inc and Sun.
The moral high ground may need to be occupied before claiming it. Solid ground is good.
Claiming that Sun acted first is a misrepresentation of facts. It is unnecessary, if they had some evidence in support of their stated fears, they should share it or start being a little more accurate with their narrative.
This has moved far beyond simply "an eye for an eye".
I strongly disagree.
Unless we have experienced that kind of prolonged attack I do not believe that any of us are in a position to negatively judge his actions. Those who have experienced prolonged abuse will be less inclined to make a negative judgment against him. He is only protecting what is his.
I would have done it very differently but only because I have spent time looking into the structure. You can not give any quarter to the psychopathic. They are lost forever
Benford's law has been used to identify fake accounts on twitter by collecting the number of followers of suspicious accounts and then collecting the number of followers each of those followers has and running that as a data-set against Benford's law.
I think something like that would be very useful for HIVE.
And as far as timing votes for profit, I believe all votes should be equally weighted no matter who votes or what time they vote.
The "band-wagon" votes are toxic (gamified for profit only).
AND, when I first joined, there was a view counter. The consensus on why it was taken away was due to complaints POB was dead and posts with hundred(s) of votes only had like 3 or 4 views. From bidbots to autovoters it was obvious most of the highest paid posts received very few actual eyes on them. LINK
And as far as timing votes for profit, I believe all votes should be equally weighted no matter who votes or what time they vote.
That creates a different set of incentives as well. As in, there would be little point to "curate" as you earn exactly what you get regardless if it's crap or not. There needs to be more to it than simply "equal weight".
AND, when I first joined, there was a view counter.
It's a super useless feature when multiple frontends existing in our ecosystem. It was more useful when Steemit was the sole and major frontend. Now, try to make sense of that "page view" by mixing in PeakD, Ecency, different tribe frontends, etc.
YouTube doesn't have multiple frontends that dilute the views. Especially when views is a metric for content creators getting paid. Not to mention a useful filter for the audience. But, I don't expect there is enough dev talent here to match YouTube's algorithms.
I don't know the details, but it wouldn't surprise me if the likes also count towards those incentives as well. Just because it poses no financial incentives to the consumers doesn't mean there's nothing on the producer's end. Ever wonder why YouTubers always ask to "like and subscribe"? Yeah, zero incentives.
Never said early voting was a good idea. It's always been the incentive. The only difference is that the window has shrunk.
And I'm not sure where this "army" is. Not many people bother anymore because it's nothing but getting flak. People always talking about armies when only a few entities are actively downvoting anything.
And what is fairness? It doesn't exist even in crypto.
When you can come up with a set of incentives that could cover fairness, abuse, merits, etc., let the whole world know. Until then, it's just complaining for complaining's sake.
Fuck !!!! hold on i just need to reattach my jaw to the rest of my face.
How many accounts ?
I just had a look at theycallme dans account because of something else i saw and its empty! nothing
https://decrypt.co/29416/steem-network-to-seize-5-million-from-its-own-users
It's a tale as old as time, "bad people" don't deserve basic human rights, including their right to hold private property.
And, the accused are presumed GUILTY until "proven" innocent, because "bad people" don't deserve anything resembling a "fair trial" or a "transparent process".
SECRECY = CENSORSHIP
COPYRIGHT = CENSORSHIP
It is a shame that people persist in being dishonest.
I can read only read this far
As soon as I read distortions like that I am done reading any more.
Which part of that quote do you believe is inaccurate?
What I found shocking is that they're still stealing steem from accounts, and in all likelihood will continue as long as they can get away with it.
I'm abandoning ship.
Following our hearts and minds is the best any of us can do.
I disagree with the presented official narrative and time line. They completely ignore the unprovoked hostile actions taken directly against Steemit.inc and Sun.
The moral high ground may need to be occupied before claiming it. Solid ground is good.
Claiming that Sun acted first is a misrepresentation of facts. It is unnecessary, if they had some evidence in support of their stated fears, they should share it or start being a little more accurate with their narrative.
Good point, but even if jsun was "wronged", it doesn't justify stealing (not just freezing) crypto accounts.
Just because someone punched you in the face without provocation, doesn't mean you're justified in running around punching everyone you dislike.
This has moved far beyond simply "an eye for an eye".
I agree in principal.
I strongly disagree.
Unless we have experienced that kind of prolonged attack I do not believe that any of us are in a position to negatively judge his actions. Those who have experienced prolonged abuse will be less inclined to make a negative judgment against him. He is only protecting what is his.
I would have done it very differently but only because I have spent time looking into the structure. You can not give any quarter to the psychopathic. They are lost forever
They are full of shit, they even went after accounts that didn't do any transactions in over 2 years.
I'm suggesting that YOU should use Benford's Law to identify fraudulent accounts and fraudulent voting patterns.
This is a fraud fighting tool.
Benford's law has been used to identify fake accounts on twitter by collecting the number of followers of suspicious accounts and then collecting the number of followers each of those followers has and running that as a data-set against Benford's law.
I think something like that would be very useful for HIVE.
And as far as timing votes for profit, I believe all votes should be equally weighted no matter who votes or what time they vote.
The "band-wagon" votes are toxic (gamified for profit only).
AND, when I first joined, there was a view counter. The consensus on why it was taken away was due to complaints POB was dead and posts with hundred(s) of votes only had like 3 or 4 views. From bidbots to autovoters it was obvious most of the highest paid posts received very few actual eyes on them. LINK
That creates a different set of incentives as well. As in, there would be little point to "curate" as you earn exactly what you get regardless if it's crap or not. There needs to be more to it than simply "equal weight".
It's a super useless feature when multiple frontends existing in our ecosystem. It was more useful when Steemit was the sole and major frontend. Now, try to make sense of that "page view" by mixing in PeakD, Ecency, different tribe frontends, etc.
How does incentivizing early votes INCREASE fairness?
Aren't there already armies of downvoters weeding out "low quality content"?
ANY page counter is better than NO page counter.
Imagine youtube with no view counter. I routinely find videos with thousands of views but only 3 or 4 votes.
And speaking of that, there is zero cost and zero incentive for youtube votes. And yet, strangely enough, people still vote.
YouTube doesn't have multiple frontends that dilute the views. Especially when views is a metric for content creators getting paid. Not to mention a useful filter for the audience. But, I don't expect there is enough dev talent here to match YouTube's algorithms.
I don't know the details, but it wouldn't surprise me if the likes also count towards those incentives as well. Just because it poses no financial incentives to the consumers doesn't mean there's nothing on the producer's end. Ever wonder why YouTubers always ask to "like and subscribe"? Yeah, zero incentives.
Never said early voting was a good idea. It's always been the incentive. The only difference is that the window has shrunk.
And I'm not sure where this "army" is. Not many people bother anymore because it's nothing but getting flak. People always talking about armies when only a few entities are actively downvoting anything.
And what is fairness? It doesn't exist even in crypto.
When you can come up with a set of incentives that could cover fairness, abuse, merits, etc., let the whole world know. Until then, it's just complaining for complaining's sake.
Nice.